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1 | 1.12% |
80-89% |
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21 | 23.60% |
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47 | 52.81% |
60-69% |
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18 | 20.22% |
50-59% |
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1 | 1.12% |
40-49% |
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1 | 1.12% |
30-39% |
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10-19% |
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0 | 0% |
0-9% |
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#801 |
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i think the rotten tomatoes scores are reasonable indicators. It does by and large escape the closed off general perceptions/sentimentalism of a fanboy community. look at the example of how alot of fans on these comic book movie sites think IM3 is an abomination. so out of touch with the general populus. the extreme views of some is so transparent and provides great comic fodder
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And when I read critics lamenting the fact for example that the universe is in peril yet again, what in the world are they expecting a hero like Thor to do? Stop bank robbers? Really? That's what Spider-Man is for. It's not Thor's fault that the end of world/universe/whatever plot line is used in other films. And it will continue to be used as long as people continue to concoct stories of this scope. I feel complaints about unevenness are also unfair. The Thor comic always consisted of a wacky mashup of sci-fi, fantasy and superheroics. There should be tonal shifts and bizarre juxtapositions. And there is humor in Thor. Lots of it. Thor always makes me laugh. I felt Taylor did a bang up job of delivering a film true to the comic within the constraints of the MCU. As a Thor fan I feel I'm a better judge of what is a good rendition than a bunch of stuffed shirt movie snobs. Lastly, for guys who get paid to review these films they sure don't do their research. I see a lot of erroneous statements in reviews which makes me just throw my hands up and say the heck with all of it. Where it bothers me is when it serves to discourage people from seeing a good entertaining film that so many people have worked so hard on. Thankfully it's not the case with this film. It is doing extremely well at the box office. Folks are going to see it and they're having a good time. As a fan, I understand the limited appeal of the character so I'm delighted with the results. At the very least that means I'll live to see a Thor 3 in the very near future. |
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I don't know what you are trying to say. I'm pretty sure critics didn't give TDW a negative response because of the source material, but because of the movie itself.
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What I'm trying to say about certain critics is this: They don't get Thor. |
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Are we saying that the writers of TDW do get Thor?
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Absolutely. They have kept the characters true to life while melding the universe with the context already established by the very first Iron Man on through Avengers. I don't expect an exact translation but the spirit of the comic is there.
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I believe you're right. It is convoluted. Of course the geek in me loves it for that reason. But I wouldn't expect critics to love it. Especially critics that didn't grow up reading comic books. And Thor has always been a somewhat bizarre concept even by comic book standards. The important thing is that it's appealing enough that the general audiences love it. And although I put little stock in RT, I'm pleased that it scored well enough to get a fresh rating.
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Did you like the original better?
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Loki has been the most consistent, even if he overshadows a bit. Yes.
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I loved TDW because I felt we saw some real character development with Thor building on the first film as well as the Avengers. Loki is always mocking him for what he perceives to be Thor's stupidity but here we see a shrewder, wiser Thor who still retains his devil-may-care recklessness at times. Also Thor is colder towards Loki after all his crimes but he still clearly loves his brother. Hiddleston and Hemsworth were fantastic together. The best we've seen them yet. We also see Odin and Thor in reversed roles, showing father and son are not so different after all. There are many times in the comics where Odin is pompous and stubborn and clearly not so wise after all. Also in the end Thor rethinking what it means to be a king, relinquishes his claim to the throne in favor of Midgard and adhering to his affection for Jane, furthering the rift with Odin - very true to the comics and a significant shift away from where he started in the first film. Thor's cockiness in the battle of Vanaheim and his offer to the Kronan and Malekith for accepting their surrender were all signature Thor moments. After Loki says "satisfaction is not in my nature", Thor's line "surrender is not in mine" is the very essence of Thor. |
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Sci fi, comic book movie, romance...none of it matters if the film isn't all that great. Apparantly plenty of critics felt it lacked. Who really listens to RT scores anymore anyway...I'm still shocked as hell (but not really) that Man of Steel got such a low score.
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I prefer the IMDB ratings to RT. It's what I look to when deciding what movie to watch. Whenever I skim through Shaw's VOD, I always check with IMDB what the rating for a particular movie is before I buy it for the next 24 hours.
T:TDW's rating on IMDB is 7.7. That's pretty damn good. |
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And it isn't Jane. They mention it, build it up a bit early, and pretty much gloss over it the rest of the way. Quote:
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And the ending bothers me the most. It spites in the face of what was established at the end of the first film and the words Thor actually says. How can he protect all the realms from Earth? It is clearly the opposite. He focusing himself to one place for selfish reasons. Now if they had set light to the position of king and made it toxic and something to frown upon, ok. But they didn't, and the only real way for Thor to protect all nine realms without Mojlnir being able to make its ports is from Asgard. Quote:
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Or a significant number of them went in not wanting to like the film.
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Also Thor was very respectful of his father at the beginning of the film. He did his duty restoring order to the nine realms. It wasn't until Jane arrived and later Frigga died that tensions arose again. Quote:
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You make a good point about Mjolnir not being able to create portals being a weakness. However, Heimdall responds almost instantaneously to Thor's request for transport. Even so, I fail to see your issues with Thor favoring Midgard. He always has in the comics and it's always been a bone of contention with Odin while creating moral dilemmas for Thor when he must choose between dealing with simultaneous threats on both Earth and Asgard. Motives are questionable for sure but they can be explored in the future. It sounds like you are complaining that Thor is being true to the source material? |
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