Early Thor Darkworld box-office predictions - Part 1 - Page 5

MessiahDecoy123 · 11-20-2013, 04:03 PM

Just about all the Marvel sequels have increased worldwide at the box office.

This allows a steady stream of Marvel sequels and a further expansion of MCU.

As Marvel fans we are very lucky.

I think after Avengers and IM3 broke the bank we got a little spoiled and took all future successes for granted.

Did you pessimist consider what would happen if Thor 2 bombed. Disney might've re-considered Marvel's plans for phase 3. We averted a potential disaster with Thor 2's 600+ m box office performance.

MessiahDecoy123 · 11-20-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by insideguy

I think it means something. It means that it isnt bringing in more people at the same point in time as the first movie. So I think its kinda relevant.

It just means Thor 2 is frontloaded which is normal for sequels.

insideguy · 11-20-2013, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MessiahDecoy123

It just means Thor 2 is frontloaded which is normal for sequels.

Yea but if it frontloaded what is the backload going to look like?

I SEE SPIDEY · 11-20-2013, 04:11 PM

Yeah, it is just typical sequel frontloading.

superion · 11-20-2013, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by insideguy

Honestly I would have thought. It was released after Iron Man made 400 million domestic and Avengers made 600 million domestic. It was released after the first film made 181 million domestic. It was released at a good time with little competition. Pretty much none in its genre. I would be curious who predicted box office domestic in the low 200 million area.

Most reasonable people probably were not expecting more than $240 million. $250 max if the reviews were great. The reviews were not great so it will fall more in the $210 or $220 range.

The foreign box office on the other hand is bigger than I expected. It will actually out gross MOS overseas so I guess that makes up for the lower domestic number.

ares834 · 11-20-2013, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rayc1971

some people are *****in that this movie could have made more money in the summer.this movie is doing fine it will clear around 230mill domestic more than the first ones 181 domestic.also they only spent 20mill more than the first one win win.

Clear 230 mil? That's not going to happen. It would need a 2.67 multiplier and there is no way it's getting that kind of multiplier.

psylockolussus · 11-20-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mysteryman

Opened the Summer of 2012 against what?
Competition makes a difference.

I meant 2013, not 2012.

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Originally Posted by Mysteryman

I agree.
Thor was never going to be a 100 million dollar opener.

If you posted this before the film's release, you would have gotten a different reaction.

Anyway, we know that most people/fans here expected so much more with this film's current b.o. takings. But since its not getting as big as they thought it would, they are now defending the film like as if their expectations were met.

A few months ago when I said that this wouldn't get $700 million worldwide because MOS didn't even cross $700 million. I got a lot of negative reaction and look whats happening now. It looks like it won't get more than $700 million.

Its not bad at all. But lets not pretend, people didn't expect for more.

tek · 11-21-2013, 08:33 AM

it is good for thor that overseas markets are making its domestic take less relevant. go thor 3

MessiahDecoy123 · 11-21-2013, 09:46 AM

Thor 2 is on track to beat Iron Man and Iron Man 2 worldwide, making it the third biggest Marvel Studios film.

Tymminator · 11-21-2013, 01:06 PM

It's over 500M WW now. It still has life left, but it will be interesting to see how much it's hit this upcoming weekend.

insideguy · 11-21-2013, 01:16 PM

Its going to get pounded. Hunger games is getting great reviews. Actually amazing reviews. Its going to be the biggest movie of the year. They are projecting a 167 million dollar weekend for HG. Thats more than thor has made in two weeks.

warriorking · 11-21-2013, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by insideguy

Its going to get pounded. Hunger games is getting great reviews. Actually amazing reviews. Its going to be the biggest movie of the year. They are projecting a 167 million dollar weekend for HG. Thats more than thor has made in two weeks.

Still won't top IM3 however....I think TDW still grabs another 20 Million this weekend...

As for Thor and his rejection of becoming King, I think it will come full circle in the 3rd Movie installment.
Regardless of how he feels I think circumstances in Thor 3 will dictate his return and he will have no choice but take the crown...
Question being is will Jane be at his side...

T"Challa · 11-21-2013, 01:35 PM

It'll be fine. I predicted a 630-650 mill box office and it looks like i will be right on line. 650 mill on a 170 mill budget is a very very successful movie. Especially for one released in November. This is Thor we're talking about, if i had told you his movie would be blowing out Wolverine and X-Men numbers 2 yrs ago, you'd have laughed at me.

Iron Man is clearly a separate beast. only 4 movies in history can top IM3. That should not be a benchmark for any other superhero not named Batman or Spiderman.

So yeah, Thor is a great success, not an insane success. If anyone is really disappointed, you need to realign your perspective.

insideguy · 11-21-2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by warriorking

Still won't top IM3 however....I think TDW still grabs another 20 Million this weekend...

As for Thor and his rejection of becoming King, I think it will come full circle in the 3rd Movie installment.
Regardless of how he feels I think circumstances in Thor 3 will dictate his return and he will have no choice but take the crown...

I see 15 million max for Thor this weekend. Its possible it gets some people who cant get into hunger games. Oh an I think Hunger Games tops Iron man domestic. I dont know how it will play world wide but the first one made over 700 million. I think there is a very good chance it beats IM3 worldwide as well.

I SEE SPIDEY · 11-21-2013, 01:41 PM

A 45% drop on the weekend of a guaranteed 150+mil opener? Yeah that probably has a 1% chance of happening.

Iron Man made 800mil internationally, Catching Fire isn't going to get close to that IMHO. It will do 600mil at best overseas. As for domestic if it has good word of mouth sure I think it can beat Iron Man's domestic number.

Marvin · 11-21-2013, 01:42 PM

Marvel has always had good luck and timing with their release vs competition. Especially with early numbers.
this weekend should be telling

warriorking · 11-21-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by T"Challa

It'll be fine. I predicted a 630-650 mill box office and it looks like i will be right on line. 650 mill on a 170 mill budget is a very very successful movie. Especially for one released in November. This is Thor we're talking about, if i had told you his movie would be blowing out Wolverine and X-Men numbers 2 yrs ago, you'd have laughed at me.

Iron Man is clearly a separate beast. only 4 movies in history can top IM3. That should not be a benchmark for any other superhero not named Batman or Spiderman.

So yeah, Thor is a great success, not an insane success. If anyone is really disappointed, you need to realign your perspective.

Consider also that their advertising cost was low as well since they(Disney) own several media outlets....
It all adds up to a VERY nice profit that has everyone smiling...

Suzanne78 · 11-21-2013, 02:36 PM

I remember when superhero movies that weren't Batman/Superman/Spider-Man/X-Men and were lucky to get to $100mil, much less $200 million.

Now Marvel Studios can pretty much safely claim that they're a major CBM franchise starter in Hollywood, Thor's inching closer to $200 million domestic and we're worried whether it should be considered a success domestically?

Wow.

I SEE SPIDEY · 11-21-2013, 02:52 PM

@Suzanne78 It's because a lot of people are under the delusion that 300mil is an easy number for a comicbook movie to hit domestically. A lot of people think 800-1bil worldwide are just easy numbers to hit and they are not. I really hope this brings people and the studios expectations back down to earth.

Even after the Thor: The Dark World's opening you still had posters saying it has a shot at 300mil despite it being obvious that it had no chance. The expectations are just so over the top now or days.

warriorking · 11-21-2013, 04:06 PM

I will make a prediction that the next installment of Thor will top 100 million opening weekend..
Seriously though, TDW at over a half a billion dollars and rising makes one proud to be a Thor fan...
Well Done Mr. Taylor...Well Done...

dalonewolf · 11-21-2013, 04:08 PM

504mill ww
Is 352mil the full foreign total
im asking because last weeks foreign total was at 344mil im just wondering if 8mil s all it got ?

Mysteryman · 11-21-2013, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by T"Challa

It'll be fine. I predicted a 630-650 mill box office and it looks like i will be right on line. 650 mill on a 170 mill budget is a very very successful movie. Especially for one released in November. This is Thor we're talking about, if i had told you his movie would be blowing out Wolverine and X-Men numbers 2 yrs ago, you'd have laughed at me.

Iron Man is clearly a separate beast. only 4 movies in history can top IM3. That should not be a benchmark for any other superhero not named Batman or Spiderman.

So yeah, Thor is a great success, not an insane success. If anyone is really disappointed, you need to realign your perspective.

170 million?
That is not a bad budget
I had heard it was over 200 million.
Glad to know that was wrong.

Mysteryman · 11-21-2013, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by warriorking

I will make a prediction that the next installment of Thor will top 100 million opening weekend..
Seriously though, TDW at over a half a billion dollars and rising makes one proud to be a Thor fan...
Well Done Mr. Taylor...Well Done...

Gonna give a little shout out to both Kenneth Branagh and Joss Whedon,
Since they helped build up Thor to this point .

Mysteryman · 11-21-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spider-Fan

It's already outgrossed the first film in 2 weeks! What more do you guys want?

I think some people felt that because the scale for the sequel was so much bigger that they might get a bigger domestic result , even close to The Avengers.

Mysteryman · 11-21-2013, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tek

it is good for thor that overseas markets are making its domestic take less relevant. go thor 3

But, its domestic take is still relevant , to say it isnt is implying TDW is a failure domestically, which it is not.

View Poll Results: What do YOU think Thor Dark World will do?
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750 Million	16	14.16%
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11-20-2013, 04:03 PM	#101
MessiahDecoy123 Noble Savage Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 21,025	Re: Early Thor Darkworld box-office predictions - Part 1 Just about all the Marvel sequels have increased worldwide at the box office. This allows a steady stream of Marvel sequels and a further expansion of MCU. As Marvel fans we are very lucky. I think after Avengers and IM3 broke the bank we got a little spoiled and took all future successes for granted. Did you pessimist consider what would happen if Thor 2 bombed. Disney might've re-considered Marvel's plans for phase 3. We averted a potential disaster with Thor 2's 600+ m box office performance. __________________ "Year off, got no rules, tripping off of them toadstools More green than my Whole Foods And I'm too fly: Jeff Goldblum " - Childish Gambino

11-20-2013, 04:11 PM	#104
I SEE SPIDEY Banned User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In Superman's arms Posts: 54,628	Re: Early Thor Darkworld box-office predictions - Part 1 Yeah, it is just typical sequel frontloading.

11-21-2013, 08:33 AM	#108
tek Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 270	Re: Early Thor Darkworld box-office predictions - Part 1 it is good for thor that overseas markets are making its domestic take less relevant. go thor 3

11-21-2013, 09:46 AM	#109
MessiahDecoy123 Noble Savage Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 21,025	Re: Early Thor Darkworld box-office predictions - Part 1 Thor 2 is on track to beat Iron Man and Iron Man 2 worldwide, making it the third biggest Marvel Studios film. __________________ "Year off, got no rules, tripping off of them toadstools More green than my Whole Foods And I'm too fly: Jeff Goldblum " - Childish Gambino

11-21-2013, 01:06 PM	#110
Tymminator The Main Man in Minnesota Join Date: May 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,120	Re: Early Thor Darkworld box-office predictions - Part 1 It's over 500M WW now. It still has life left, but it will be interesting to see how much it's hit this upcoming weekend.

11-21-2013, 01:16 PM	#111
insideguy Banned User Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 422	Re: Early Thor Darkworld box-office predictions - Part 1 Its going to get pounded. Hunger games is getting great reviews. Actually amazing reviews. Its going to be the biggest movie of the year. They are projecting a 167 million dollar weekend for HG. Thats more than thor has made in two weeks. Last edited by insideguy; 11-21-2013 at 01:21 PM.

11-21-2013, 01:35 PM	#113
T"Challa Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,332	Re: Early Thor Darkworld box-office predictions - Part 1 It'll be fine. I predicted a 630-650 mill box office and it looks like i will be right on line. 650 mill on a 170 mill budget is a very very successful movie. Especially for one released in November. This is Thor we're talking about, if i had told you his movie would be blowing out Wolverine and X-Men numbers 2 yrs ago, you'd have laughed at me. Iron Man is clearly a separate beast. only 4 movies in history can top IM3. That should not be a benchmark for any other superhero not named Batman or Spiderman. So yeah, Thor is a great success, not an insane success. If anyone is really disappointed, you need to realign your perspective. __________________ Top 10 CBMs: 1A. The Avengers 1b. The Dark Knight 3. Captain America:Civil War 4. Captain America: The Winter Soldier . 5.X-Men:DOFP 6. Guardians Of The Galaxy 7.Spiderman 2 8. X2: X Men United. 9. Iron Man 10. Batman Begins.

11-21-2013, 01:41 PM	#115
I SEE SPIDEY Banned User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In Superman's arms Posts: 54,628	Re: Early Thor Darkworld box-office predictions - Part 1 A 45% drop on the weekend of a guaranteed 150+mil opener? Yeah that probably has a 1% chance of happening. Iron Man made 800mil internationally, Catching Fire isn't going to get close to that IMHO. It will do 600mil at best overseas. As for domestic if it has good word of mouth sure I think it can beat Iron Man's domestic number. Last edited by I SEE SPIDEY; 11-21-2013 at 01:45 PM.

11-21-2013, 01:42 PM	#116
Marvin Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 19,612	Re: Early Thor Darkworld box-office predictions - Part 1 Marvel has always had good luck and timing with their release vs competition. Especially with early numbers. this weekend should be telling __________________ "I care because filmmakers now make films under crippling security because of parasitic gossip. makes movies worse" -James Mangold.

11-21-2013, 02:36 PM	#118
Suzanne78 Abs Without Fear Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 5,747	Re: Early Thor Darkworld box-office predictions - Part 1 I remember when superhero movies that weren't Batman/Superman/Spider-Man/X-Men and were lucky to get to $100mil, much less $200 million. Now Marvel Studios can pretty much safely claim that they're a major CBM franchise starter in Hollywood, Thor's inching closer to $200 million domestic and we're worried whether it should be considered a success domestically? Wow. __________________ "Joss Whedon, Shane Black, Edgar Wright, James Gunn [and Ryan Coogler]… For as much flack as people give Marvel that's a pretty freaking great group of filmmakers. Kind of feel spoiled." --Chewy

11-21-2013, 02:52 PM	#119
I SEE SPIDEY Banned User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In Superman's arms Posts: 54,628	Re: Early Thor Darkworld box-office predictions - Part 1 @Suzanne78 It's because a lot of people are under the delusion that 300mil is an easy number for a comicbook movie to hit domestically. A lot of people think 800-1bil worldwide are just easy numbers to hit and they are not. I really hope this brings people and the studios expectations back down to earth. Even after the Thor: The Dark World's opening you still had posters saying it has a shot at 300mil despite it being obvious that it had no chance. The expectations are just so over the top now or days.

11-21-2013, 04:06 PM	#120
warriorking Side-Kick Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: West Virginia Posts: 601	Re: Early Thor Darkworld box-office predictions - Part 1 I will make a prediction that the next installment of Thor will top 100 million opening weekend.. Seriously though, TDW at over a half a billion dollars and rising makes one proud to be a Thor fan... Well Done Mr. Taylor...Well Done... Last edited by warriorking; 11-21-2013 at 04:11 PM.

11-21-2013, 04:08 PM	#121
dalonewolf Banned User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 611	Re: Early Thor Darkworld box-office predictions - Part 1 504mill ww Is 352mil the full foreign total im asking because last weeks foreign total was at 344mil im just wondering if 8mil s all it got ?

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