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View Poll Results: How do you feel about Goyer writing the script for the first Superman Batman film
His work on MOS was VERY GOOD. He'll do GREAT. 27 20.45%
His work on MOS was OKAY. I am Skecptical. 30 22.73%
His work on MOS was POOR. I feel dread. 32 24.24%
He NEEDS Affleck's help and guidance to deliver a great script 43 32.58%
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Old 11-23-2013, 11:13 AM   #10
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Default Re: David S. Goyer IS the Script Writer! - Part 2

Originally Posted by DA_Champion View Post
I've thought about it, and if that's the direction Snyder wants to go in, Batman can beat up Superman:

- In the second Hulk movie, loud noises are used to scare Hulk, that should also work on a Kryptonian. Using sensory overload to attack Supeman should be a general strategy imo.
It's not the same though. The internal logic of the film shows that a Kryptonian suffers sensory overload when 2 or more super sense activate simultaneously (X-Ray Vision + Super hearing). If he's not focusing on his super hearing (or he focuses on a different spectrum), then loud noises wouldn't hurt him. Moreover, you could even operate under the logic that because his body is indestructible, that his eardrums wouldn't be sensitive to loud noises unlike the human ear.

Originally Posted by DA_Champion View Post
- Hit him with missiles. MoS shows that Superman recoils from missiles.
Recoil, yes. But he's not getting harmed so it's pointless. Moreover, Superman could simply fly out of the target range. Also, I have a hard time believing that Batman would resort to destructive methods especially if he is personally insulted by the Metropolis battle.

Originally Posted by DA_Champion View Post
- Use some Kryptonian technology picked up.
I think it's likely that LexCorp took it than Batman. And it would have to depend on the story logic. Is Lex teaming up with Batman? Is Lex's involvement only the public disdain/attack on Superman?

Originally Posted by DA_Champion View Post
- There may be other alien technology lying around that authorities have kept secret.
I think it's more likely that LexCorp takes the technology and researches its functions in secret.

Originally Posted by DA_Champion View Post
- have the proto justice league help him out
That would imply that heroes have banded prior to Superman's arrival, which I don't think is possible given how some heroes may have large egos (for instance, Batman telling Superman to literally gtfo of Gotham in the Byrne chapter). That also makes it more difficult to tell the Justice League story, since the origins is based on heroes banding together against a common enemy, or Martian Manhunter unites them against a common enemy (again, depends on which continuities you're familiar with).

Also, I don't think it's fair to involve the proto-league if the film is saying that two men are fighting. Luthor is the farthest I'd go for a Batman team-up.

Originally Posted by DA_Champion View Post
- Have Batman lure Superman into a room with a Kryptonian atmosphere
- etc

Snyder can convincingly tell Superman winning, Batman winning, or a draw. Whatever story he wants to tell can work.
This presupposes that Batman knows how Kryptonian biology works and that's simply impossible. Wayne is a smart man, no doubt but that, but he would not know about Kryptonian atmosphere by virtue of the fact that research on Kryptonians are non-existent (that can change for MOS II/BvS, unless Superman had a burial for Zod, in that case, it becomes more difficult to acquire data).

Not to mention, the Black Zero sequence took place in space. No one other than Lois Lane knows that Superman cannot handle Kryptonian atmosphere. So I can't really see Batman planning this far without sounding like an ass pull.

Snyder can certainly take a side and present that story, but I feel like his love for Superman and the comic-con interview where he basically said Superman wins (interesting enough, Goyer admits that Superman would win in a fight), would seep into the script.

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