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Old 11-25-2013, 12:00 AM   #1
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Question Release dates for Wolverine 3 & X-Force?

When do you think Fox will release Wolverine 3 and X-Force in theaters?

Wolverine 3 - I'm really hoping for a 2016 summer release date, 3 years after The Wolverine and 2 years after DOFP. As of right now these dates are taken:

5/6/16 - Marvel Studios
5/27/16 - Alice in Wonderland 2
6/10/16 - The Amazing Spider-Man 3
6/17/16 - Finding Dory/How To Train Your Dragon 3
7/1/16 - Angry Birds/Independence Day 2
7/8/16 - Marvel Studios
7/15/16 - Anubis

So the first weekend of may and memorial weekend are taken. I don't want another late July release, since it didn't help The Wolverine a lot.

Maybe the third weekend of May would be good for Wolverine 3, May 20, 2016?

As for X-Force, I don't see it being released.

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Old 11-25-2013, 03:36 PM   #2
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July is fine. But I can also see March or April 2016, still plenty of time for that. X-Force is probably May 2017. I don't think they both come out the same year.

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Fox may give it the Independence day spot since i am skeptical that being made.If not based on Scedule we are probally looking at late july again.

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Old 11-26-2013, 01:08 AM   #4
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I think May is the best option right now, summer is gonna get crowded anyway, they should release it earlier while the blockbuster fatigue hasn't set in.

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X-Force isn't in 2015?
I thought they're filming next year.

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It's unknown when X-force and next wolverine are coming.

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X-Force should come in 2016 yes or yes.

Wolverine 3, I dont mind the year, it could be 2016 too, or 2017, or 2018.

As long as I get a new concept/movie, Ill be happy. That and then an OT sequel, of course.

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Probably both in 2016.

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X-Force should come in 2015.
We have 2 Marvel Studios movies per year, should have at least one X-connected per year since now.

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There should be ample to time to get at least one in production in time for a 2015 release, and I doubt FOX are just going to sit by and let so many other comic properties hog the spotlight that year.

With such dramatic competition that year, I wonder if they'd be better served to embrace a more low-key project like X-Force, or try and push Wolverine as a fairly bankable character. Maybe responses to DOFP will help them decide.

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Probably both in 2016.
If both of them will be made next year then sure I would like to see them in 2016.

Though I'm not sure how the audience would response to the X-Force movie.
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There should be ample to time to get at least one in production in time for a 2015 release, and I doubt FOX are just going to sit by and let so many other comic properties hog the spotlight that year.

With such dramatic competition that year, I wonder if they'd be better served to embrace a more low-key project like X-Force, or try and push Wolverine as a fairly bankable character. Maybe responses to DOFP will help them decide.
At this point, 2015 is too crowded and could you imagine 3 X-Men movies released in 3 years? Even the producers would want to give themselves a 1 year break for that.

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Fox has 2 options

1:Give It independence day spot
2:Release In Late July/August

Since Disney has announced 2 TBD Marvel films for 2016 there Isn't a lot of opotions.Plus ASM3 Is coming In June.

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There's no mandate saying they have to release it in the summer. Look at Thor, The Hunger Games, The Hobbit and the next Captain America. They've all proven that you don't need to release a blockbuster within the traditional release window. A summer release date doesn't guarantee a big success.

April and November are great options as well with less competition. The summer slate is just becoming way too packed.

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At this point, 2015 is too crowded and could you imagine 3 X-Men movies released in 3 years? Even the producers would want to give themselves a 1 year break for that.
Not crowded for FOX though. They won't just sit out a year, I don't think it works like that for them.

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Not crowded for FOX though. They won't just sit out a year, I don't think it works like that for them.
Exactly. With Marvel already producing two movies a year, Sony announcing they're going to expand the Spidey universe and DC no doubt finally get their butts in gear hopefully - Fox can't afford to sit out a year with their X-Men or Fantastic Four franchise anymore.

If they ever want the X-movies to be as big as they should they're going to need to kick it into high gear. Not saying they need to start churning them our factory style, but they are going to have to start being a little more aggressive with their releases.

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totally agree.

I think 2015 should be the only year without a X-related movie. In this case, its a F4 movie.

So from 2016 on, each year should have something from the X-universe, just each year with a different cast/concept.

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There's no mandate saying they have to release it in the summer. Look at Thor, The Hunger Games, The Hobbit and the next Captain America. They've all proven that you don't need to release a blockbuster within the traditional release window. A summer release date doesn't guarantee a big success.

April and November are great options as well with less competition. The summer slate is just becoming way too packed.
And as if the X-Men movies have the same strength as those other movies. Lets be real. And since you mentioned Thor, that movie is doing not so well in the United States. I imagine it would have performed worse if it didn't get the so called Avengers boost.

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Exactly. With Marvel already producing two movies a year, Sony announcing they're going to expand the Spidey universe and DC no doubt finally get their butts in gear hopefully - Fox can't afford to sit out a year with their X-Men or Fantastic Four franchise anymore.

If they ever want the X-movies to be as big as they should they're going to need to kick it into high gear. Not saying they need to start churning them our factory style, but they are going to have to start being a little more aggressive with their releases.
Just because other studios are pumping out movies every year, or twice a year, it doesn't mean other studios should do it. It would just lead to over-saturation in my opinion.

And yes Sony announced that they are expanding the Spidey universe but as of right now, they haven't break the 2 year gap for their movies.

Anyway, Fox has 2015 for Fantastic Four. X-Men could wait for 2016, where the summer season is less crowded.

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Let's be real.SOny doesn't have rights to other marvel heroes.The most they could do In Venom and Black cat films.As for sinster 6 they actual have to have 6 live villains to do that.

I think when DIsney should remain quiet on release dates till they are ready to say what the films are.

Thor while domesticly It will outgross first film It sure won't approach Box office of any of the Iron Man films.Who knows what Cap will do In april.It could perform like thor 2.Remember first cap did less than first thor.

As for X-Men Inless Fox gives it the ID sequel spot we are looking at late july or sometime In august due to films already on the schedule.And there Is no gurante that wolverine and X-Force will be out In same year.I think wolverine Is more likely.While they are further along with writing on X-force wolverine has a more set director+Hugh jackman.The writer of X-Force still hasn't been announced as director.Plus with the release schedule they could use a star for a X related film for 2016.

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Just because other studios are pumping out movies every year, or twice a year, it doesn't mean other studios should do it.
Doesn't mean they wont/shouldnt either.Daredevil and X2 both came out in 2003 3 months from eachother and Elektra and FF both in 2005 7 moths. So they have released 2 marvel films in a year three previous times counting TW and DOFP. It wouldn't exactly be something new for Fox if they did this again post DOFP. Or even in 2015, if they see an opportunity. Especially in todays comic obsessed world and since they can only expand with X-Men and FF now. Fox was releasing multiple Marvel films in the same year before Marvel studios.

I doubt we will ever get direct sequels every year. But X-Force, Wolverine and X-Men will all be night and day. They wont look like Fox is coming out with the same film every year. And with possible crossover's between films to bigger events, that makes it even more likely. Fox is gonna be looking at the best ways for all their characters and universe to make money. That means staying consistent and keeping up in todays film market while finding a balance.

We know for sure that Fox wants to expand and they are probably waiting on DOFP numbers to give them the greenlight as too how far that expansion will go since thats their main seller. If those numbers aren't as high as they expect, things will be slowed down. Wolverine and DOFP are actually the easiest given the lead for the audience to connect the franchise right now. That hardly feels like over saturation, and they are 10 months apart. Even with the same lead, thats no overkill. TW Blu-Ray/digital sales are also gonna go up prior to DOFP's release, especially since they are so close.

If Fox does big numbers with DOFP, I suspect they will do at the least an X film a year unless something tells them otherwise and proves not to work. Obvioulsy Wolverine's box office made them more then happy within that crowded summer. So they are not expecting every film to make 150m domestic as long as the film turns profitable ww based on the budget.

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And as if the X-Men movies have the same strength as those other movies. Lets be real. And since you mentioned Thor, that movie is doing not so well in the United States. I imagine it would have performed worse if it didn't get the so called Avengers boost.
It aint exactly doing bad, and will see an increase over Thor 1. Were talking about Thor, five years ago no one gave two ****s about the character besides comic fans. Now a solo film can get to over 600m ww. Thats impressive, anyway you break it down.

DOFP can easily be the flick that sets X-Men and Fox on making more money with their films if its a crowd pleaser. It doesn't take long to set things in motion nowadays.


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Doesn't mean they wont/shouldnt either.Daredevil and X2 both came out in 2003 3 months from eachother and Elektra and FF both in 2005 7 moths.
Except for X2, where are those franchises right now?

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So they have released 2 marvel films in a year three previous times counting TW and DOFP. It wouldn't exactly be something new for Fox if they did this again post DOFP. Or even in 2015, if they see an opportunity. Especially in todays comic obsessed world and since they can only expand with X-Men and FF now. Fox was releasing multiple Marvel films in the same year before Marvel studios.
It would require a lot of dedication, good work and good marketing for Fox to achieve 2 successful Marvel films in 1 year. And yes Marvel did release more than 1 Marvel film per year, but the quality of some of those films aren't really good.

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We know for sure that Fox wants to expand and they are probably waiting on DOFP numbers to give them the greenlight as too how far that expansion will go since thats their main seller. If those numbers aren't as high as they expect, things will be slowed down. Wolverine and DOFP are actually the easiest given the lead for the audience to connect the franchise right now. That hardly feels like over saturation, and they are 10 months apart. Even with the same lead, thats no overkill. TW Blu-Ray/digital sales are also gonna go up prior to DOFP's release, especially since they are so close.
Actually everytime a new X-Men movie grosses lower than its predecessors, box-office analysts bring up over-saturation and audience fatigue.

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Except for X2, where are those franchises right now?
That's irrelevant to the fact they are willing to put out multiple films, and they have done so three times now. Also, Daredevil was a success financially. It grossed over double its budget ww and over 100m domestically and it wasnt even a summer flick.
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Actually everytime a new X-Men movie grosses lower than its predecessors, box-office analysts bring up over-saturation and audience fatigue.
TW did fine. The quality since X2 went down until FC which looked like a new start with a whole new cast. You can't expect these films to carry the weight as their peak until they settle in. TW is playing make up and FC is just getting started. Much like the OT you cant expect these films to have X3 numbers right away, other things come into play.

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That's irrelevant to the fact they are willing to put out multiple films, and they have done so three times now. Also, Daredevil was a success financially. It grossed over double its budget ww and over 100m domestically and it wasnt even a summer flick.

TW did fine. The quality since X2 went down until FC which looked like a new start with a whole new cast. You can't expect these films to carry the weight as their peak until they settle in. TW is playing make up and FC is just getting started. Much like the OT you cant expect these films to have X3 numbers right away, other things come into play.
I wouldn't call the Daredevil film a true success especially if you compare it to the WW grosses of X1/FF1, it didn't even earn more than $200 million worldwide.

And you have to consider if Fox is willing to release more than 1 Marvel film per year, they could compromise the quality of the films and the more films they release per year, probably, there will be less effort to the marketing.

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I wouldn't call the Daredevil film a true success especially if you compare it to the WW grosses of X1/FF1, it didn't even earn more than $200 million worldwide.
Theres a reason why Elektra was greenlit. Daredevil was a success. Not every film needs to make the same amount of money as a more popular franchise. Daredevil never had the popularity of X-Men or Fantastic Four. Daredevil also had a cheaper budget under 100m then the other franchises.

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Thats nothing more then an assumption, and since you only want OT films and no spinn offs its tough to see if your just debating to get what you want or actually believe it would be an issue. Its no different then Fox releasing multiple films a years in general from their studio. They are releasing two X films in a year right now. Does that look like its hurting the quality and Marketing? Its better then its ever been.

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Theres a reason why Elektra was greenlit. Daredevil was a success. Not every film needs to make the same amount of money as a more popular franchise. Daredevil never had the popularity of X-Men or Fantastic Four. Daredevil also had a cheaper budget under 100m then the other franchises.

Thats nothing more then an assumption, and since you only want OT films and no spinn offs its tough to see if your just debating to get what you want or actually believe it would be an issue. Its no different then Fox releasing multiple films a years in general from their studio. They are releasing two X films in a year right now. Does that look like its hurting the quality and Marketing? Its better then its ever been.
Daredevil's budget is bigger than X1 by three million. And yes Elektra was greenlit but it was made with a lower budget and was released in January.

And yes I do want OT films but I definitely hope that they won't be released every year, but once in every 2 to 3 years. And no they aren't releasing 2 X-Men films in 1 year, The Wolverine was released this year and DOFP next year. Their distance to each other might not be more than 12 months but they are released in a different year. Its different compare to X-Force/Wolverine being released in 2016.

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