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110 | 67.07% |
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8 | 4.88% |
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46 | 28.05% |
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#226 |
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I watched IM3 again today as I have been meaning, and its such a weird movie, for the 1st hour or so its superb, amazing in fact, but things just seem to take a downward turn when he meets up with the kid for some reason. Which is strange because the kid is a good little actor.
The 2nd half has its moments, and the twist DOES work in the movie (its only when the movie ends that I think the twist starts to grate), but yeah, if the quality of the 1st hour was kept, it would rival the 1st movie. I still think its SLIGHTLY better than IM2, and neither are close to the 1st movie.
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Rating MCU films: Iron Man - 4/5, The Incredible Hulk - 4/5, Iron Man 2 - 3/5, Thor - 4/5, Captain America: The First Avenger - 5/5, The Avengers - 5/5, Iron Man 3 - 3.5/5, Thor: The Dark World - 3.5/5, Captain America: The Winter Soldier - 5/5, Guardians of the Galaxy - 4.5/5, Avengers: Age of Ultron - 4.5/5, Ant-Man - 4/5, Captain America: Civil War - 5/5, Dr. Strange - 4/5, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - 5/5, Spider-Man: Homecoming - 5/5, Thor: Ragnarok - 5/5, Black Panther - 5/5 Spider-Man 3 is a good movie. Yes. I said it RIP Vartha :csad: |
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Vanko was awesome...and then he did the NYYEAAAHH.
Then he got awesome, and kicked ass at Monaco, and did a Joker-like interrogation with Stark. Then nothing. Like i've said before, this twist isn't really that different from the first two IM movies, if you think about it. Yeah, we all knew Stane was the baddie, but Raza was set up as the foil in the beginning of IM1...and it turns out it was Stane all along. Vanko was advertised/set up to be the big baddie in IM2...and Hammer did more damage than Vanko did. |
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The first one was great and without a doubt one of the best of its kind. It was new it was exciting and RDJ nailed the part.
In the second one they saw what worked and what the audience liked and copied the exact same recipe -from the villain to the jokes, the music and the whole feeling- without being fresh and smart as #1 and threw tons of easter eggs in the mix to promote The Avengers and the rest MCU movies. And I thought it really worked at the time but as years gone by the more I see it the less I think of it honestly. Still a good enjoyable movie though. In the third one they at least tried something different but it got silly really quick. So many plot holes so many stupid parts and cliches. It had nothing to do with what they promoted as a more grounded approach and a slightly serious tone. Even the first part of the film suggested that direction. In the end it almost turned out as a parody. Easily the worst of the trilogy. So for me it's Iron Man>Iron Man 2>Iron man 3. |
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Iron Man 3 for me tops the list. I'm very sorry, but those who think the twist makes the movie bad really need to reevaluate their opinion. The twist works in the context of the film and, regardless of having no physical similarities to the character, is respectful to the Mandarin's deceptive nature. Seeing Tony defend himself out of the suit and seeing him actually have a conflict to deal with was great. Him invading the Mandarin's mansion, his PTSD all made for a much more interesting character than anything done with Thor in Loki: The Dark World. The action itself is prolonged and very executed, unlike the first two which had very short and distance bursts of action. The only thing about the film that bothers me is the last 10 or so minutes. Pepper killing the Mandarin was and Tony removing his arc reactor was terrible writing all together. I don't know how they got as the resolution to the story after having such a film. Either way, Iron Man 3 is my favorite, followed by the first, then, all the way down, Iron Man 2.
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iron man 1 was a great film.
iron man 2 disappointed me, it was aight but not something I'd wanna watch again. What I think would have made the film better would be a. given hammer a british accent b. not have recasted terrence howard, although that in itself is another issue c. have a showdown fight between black widow and whiplash in the climax instead of whiplash showing up and being blown by iron man and war machine as for iron man 3, i haven't seen it, but from wat i hear about the mandarin... might make it the worst of all 3 but hey, it's the second highest grossing film in the mcu and one of the highest grossing films of all time, so credit where it's due |
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#233 |
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Why let others dictate an opinion for you?
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![]() Par for the course on the internetz. It's easiest to tell who falls into this category by whether or not their thoughts are particularly original. When I see someone regurgitating the same ill-conceived ignorance(and damn near verbatim) that the bandwagon is peddling, it's a very clear indicator of this. I remember there was a fellow who repeatedly extolled the virtues of the comic book villain, but was caught with his pants down as having never read an Iron Man book aside from the Extremis mini. How is that sort of criticism even valuable, let alone valid? The only explanation for this sort of silliness is that these folks are simply repeating the same internet noise they've read elsewhere. How else can someone come to such a conclusion without having proper, relevant perspective? Everyone is entitled the their opinion I suppose, but when said opinion is backed by preconceived notions and confirmation bias, then that's when we've crossed into fallacy territory, which is precisely when I can't take someone seriously, no matter how loudly they yell "ITS JUST MY OPINION DOOD!" |
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I think I've seen the same guy around here, but I can't remember after the billion bandwagon Mandarin fans I've come across
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1- Iron Man 3
I don't like how easily the suit gets disassembled, or blowing up all the armors Everything else is fine, a great fun adventure movie, and the story is interesting 9/10 2- Iron Man Iron Man has the best superhero origin, I'm saying it, this is how I find it After that it's not my favorite as either a Marvel comics movie or a Marvel studios movie, but it's great fun, and it's great to see Tony not making weapons to sell Obidiah's story kind made me rub my head, people got angry over the Mandarin's twist, but not over the changes this character went through 8.5/10 3- Iron Man 2 Pepper and Rhodey have annoying moments, really annoying moments, so does Tony Is it a bad movie? No, it's a good fun movie I really enjoy, but I get why this movie disappointed after a great first 8/10
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1. Iron Man
a really solid movie, up there with The Dark Knight in my book. everything worked perfectly in it, I even liked Iron Monger despite how little time they gave him in the actual Iron Monger suit. Characters and the way they interacted with each other were charming 2. Iron Man 3 I hated this one but I hate Iron Man 2 more. The good parts in IM3 are the visuals, the action was good and the jokes are well written. Still, even if you have great comedic material you can't go over board with or the movie will turn into a joke. And the Mandarin twist was a very desperate and pointless one. But at least I wasn't bored watching it like I was when I watched: 3. Iron Man 2 This movie was just boring, Ivan Vanko seemed to have potential as a villain, but they didn't do anything interesting with it in the end. Pacing was awful, it slowed down way too much in the middle, which would've been fine if the dialogue was engaging but it wasn't. Oh and in this movie Pepper is annoying as ****. They substitute the clever natural character interactions to rambling and mostly complaining, with Tony akwardly talking over Pepper's rambling |
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![]() Yes because Fox have done most of their other characters justice right? Mmmmmmm let's see..... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() And how could we forget this. This was just priceless. Spot on representation of this character and Fox did a great job. They did the character justice ![]() ![]() I know you dislike the MCU very much, but don't go around making absurd statements like that. ![]()
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this is a very valid point. however, you have to admit that if a mass amount of people have the same opinion it has to come with merit. so that's when you delve into the subject yourself to see if you agree with them or not, I just have not done that yet
but I mean their opinion itself stems from a plot twist, there's not much that can dictate that. it's not like most of the hate controversy is about the entire film as a review, but just that one plot twist |
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Iron Man 3 is the best IM film to date and the best MCU film overall imo.
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Not always, and the fallout from this movie is actually a perfect example of why that isn't the case. Prior to, the folks complaining about Kingsley's portrayal were in the very small minority; the majority was waiting in anticipation. At least a couple of weeks afterwards, comic book dogma reared its ugly head again. The two positions are completely contradictory. When you also consider the fact that most people can't accurately articulate what a comic book accurate Mandarin is in the first place, the whole thing becomes even more dubious. To them, the comic Mandarin is some Chinese dude with magic rings. The interesting part is that neither designation is completely accurate, yet this is what so-called fans desperately wanted...after the fact. Jonestown and the Branch Davidians were a couple examples of a "mass of people" as well...I wouldn't consider their beliefs as having much merit either.
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It's funny how after IM3 came out, suddenly these Mandarin "fans" start coming out of nowhere.
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i usually agree with jeremy jahns and here's a video of him explaining the frustration of the fanboys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3KeDPR5VKs |
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More examples of Bandwagoning : Sam Raimi hate after SM3 came out (I acknowledge not everyone loved SM1/SM2 pre-SM3.) A bit of distaste for Nolan after TDKR Deadpool suddenly had this massive fanbase after WO |
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![]() I'm willing to sit down and have a decent discussion with these 'fans' and actually talk about the character rather than argue on about how mis-represented and how Shane raped the character blah blah blah. Some of these 'fans' here treat the Mandarin like he was some A-lister, Ultron or Dr Doom type level villain. ![]() |
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I actually did not really really really like SM2, but the general appeal is that it is a great film. I thought the first SM was very good but I did not like that there were no web shooters. And although DKR was a good film, it did not hold the candle to TDK or BB for that matter because to me it was far too similar. And trust me, deadpool had a fanbase before WO. Just no one heard their voice until it. I saw the first transformers and I thought it was horrible. I didn't even care to see the second and I only went to go see the third coz I was dragged and my ticket was paid for and I thought that one was horrible too. Quote:
but anyways, there's one segment in that video where it compares mandarin to the joker in TDK...whereas, how would you feel if it was the same? heath ledger's character was just a hired actor and carmine falcone was the 'joker' all along? would you have accepted that? even if it worked in the context of the film? |
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Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
^^That is exactly what we got in Iron Man 3: Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
That's exactly how Mandarin and Tony fight in the comics. Those 'fans' who who only wanted to see "Iron Man vs. Mandarin (with Alien rings) zomg pew-pew socko-blammo" got a cold hard dose of reality poured over their heads. ![]() ![]() Quote:
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I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I was never a hardcore iron man fan, i.e the comics, but I think fanboys were looking for something more on the lines of this
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