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Old 12-28-2013, 02:40 AM   #101
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Old 12-28-2013, 02:41 AM   #102
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Yes, actually, it does.

He just won an Oscar because his peers think he's awesome at what he does. He's rich, happily married (as far as we can tell), and is a father. He has been hired to play one of his most favorite comic book characters (who also just happens to be one of the most iconic characters in pop culture) and, regardless of whether or not the movie is good or bad, will go down in history as the first Batman to ever share screen time with Superman.

On top of all of that...the guy has been in the business for several years now. I think he knows how to handle criticism.

So no, I don't think he gives a damn what those people have to say about him. I know I wouldn't.
Bear in mind he won an Oscar for producing. So did George Clooney and Grant Heslov. So his peers think he is awesome at producing.

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I just have a hard time believing it. I mean...this is Ben Affleck. I don't think a Razzie nomination is the worst thing that's ever happened to him, professionally speaking.
Oh absolutely. He was in utter and terrible shock when the director's branch refused to nominate him for Best Director and instead nominated the director of a foreign language art film and the director of a Sundance indie.

He admitted to feeling low and that he called up George Clooney (who HAS been nominated for directing) and that Clooney told him such things happen.

But that was his worst career moment I think. He definitely felt the pinch and referred to it throughout the awards season.

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they all can't be hits.
Definitely. Not all movies can be hit. But a person whose career is going well and has just won an Oscar has no need to suddenly be in a film with 8 % reviews (4 % from top critics) and start getting Razzie nominations again after a break of a few years. There are levels of films, it is far better to be in an ordinary film that in one of the worst films of the year right.

Just saying he might have chosen even a mediocre project but not such a terrible one.

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The Razzie's have always been a joke from what I've seen.
Does anyone really take the Razzies seriously as a critical medium?

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Does anyone really take the Razzies seriously as a critical medium?
We shouldn't care too much about oscars either.

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We shouldn't care too much about oscars either.
Exactly! Just like Oscars don't completely represent the best, Razzies don't completely represent he worst. But those touting that he has won Oscars should also tout that he has won Razzies as well.

They are both extremely biased and both miss a lot of the best and the worst respectively.

So if Oscars have the general badge of quality, Razzies have the general badge of failure.

But they are both alike, incomplete assessment of the what are the best and worst in a given year respectively.

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We shouldn't care too much about oscars either.
Agreed, actually. The Academy Awards is pretty much a glorified popularity contest, and no real arbiter of quality.

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Old 12-28-2013, 08:14 AM   #110
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Yeah how many times Christian Bale was roped out of Best Actor hell Gary Oldman I believe doesn't have but noe I don't give damn who wins anymore.

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Old 12-28-2013, 08:48 AM   #111
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will go down in history as the first Batman to ever share screen time with Superman.
1st actor ever to play both characters also?

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1st actor ever to play both characters also?
Affleck never played Superman, he played George Reeves. So, no.

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Old 12-28-2013, 09:59 AM   #113
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Affleck never played Superman, he played George Reeves. So, no.
Well first actor to wear both the Batman and Superman suit on screen then?

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Thanks very much.
Everything you wrote is why I chose my avatar. Emerging from the fog into the morning light.

Regarding Batfleck's acting chops, I think he'll be fine. Affleck has a natural charisma about him that will help him slip into the Wayne role.

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Bear in mind he won an Oscar for producing. So did George Clooney and Grant Heslov. So his peers think he is awesome at producing.
Point still stands.

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Oh absolutely. He was in utter and terrible shock when the director's branch refused to nominate him for Best Director and instead nominated the director of a foreign language art film and the director of a Sundance indie.
Damn. That must have sucked.

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Exactly! Just like Oscars don't completely represent the best, Razzies don't completely represent he worst. But those touting that he has won Oscars should also tout that he has won Razzies as well.
I only brought up his winning an Oscar to prove a point. Oscars and Razzies are more or less equally irrelevant to me.

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Well first actor to wear both the Batman and Superman suit on screen then?
I think so, yeah.

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Well first actor to wear both the Batman and Superman suit on screen then?
Better.

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Old 12-28-2013, 11:45 AM   #117
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ben being batman, what about jon hamm as the joker? i think he'll wow everyone. no joke.

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Damn. That must have sucked.
Must have sucked for Affleck but it was great for cinema because the directors' held their nerve, went against the grain and nominated two of the finest directorial achievements of the year, both infinitely better than Affleck, one of them the greatest director working today (IMHO) - Michael Haneke.

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No, he should have at least been nominated. He shouldn't have necessarily won, but to not even be nominated, especially since HIS move won Best Picture, was a snub. As for Affleck and the Razzie thing, most of the reviews that I've read for Runner Runner mention that Affleck's performance was fine, in fact it was the best thing in that movie. The movie should probably be nominated, but not him personally.

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No, he should have at least been nominated. He shouldn't have necessarily won, but to not even be nominated, especially since HIS move won Best Picture, was a snub. As for Affleck and the Razzie thing, most of the reviews that I've read for Runner Runner mention that Affleck's performance was fine, in fact it was the best thing in that movie. The movie should probably be nominated, but not him personally.
Nah. I don't think he was Top 10 worthy even. Even Argo should not have been nominated. I thought it was perfectly second rate.

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Must have sucked for Affleck but it was great for cinema because the directors' held their nerve, went against the grain and nominated two of the finest directorial achievements of the year, both infinitely better than Affleck, one of them the greatest director working today (IMHO) - Michael Haneke.
Um, okay.

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is that Michael Bay's real name?

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Must have sucked for Affleck but it was great for cinema because the directors' held their nerve, went against the grain and nominated two of the finest directorial achievements of the year, both infinitely better than Affleck, one of them the greatest director working today (IMHO) - Michael Haneke.
lol what?

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Old 12-28-2013, 06:49 PM   #124
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Meh, it's slumcat. Ben Affleck could save a baby from a burning building tomorrow, and slumcat would say, "He probably just did it for the publicity, and a better actor would have been able to save two babies."

Argo was easily one of the best films of 2012, and was well deserving of its Best Picture Oscar win. And I do feel like Affleck deserved the Best Director nod too, as did the voting committees of most major awards ceremonies outside of the Oscars.

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Affleck and Nolan have that in common. No best director nods.

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