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Old 12-05-2013, 04:43 PM   #101
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I'm quite interested to see what Mangold does writing from scratch vs adapting a story someone else came up with.


I'll be super happy if Schreiber comes back, he was one of the very few bright spots of XOW. With a good script & director he could be awesome.

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Its incredible to think that with todays announcement we could be seeing both Apocalypse AND Omega Red in the next few years. These two along with Sinister were my favourite villains from TAS. Amazing stuff.

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Well after Wolverine 3 and XMA, SInister along with Hodge and Selene are the obvious choices.

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Right now, I don't know what to think for Wolverine 3 and X-Force.Unless Wolverine 3 gets released in 2015.

The announcement for X-Men: Apocalypse is quite big, I mean who knew we would be getting another X-Men movie before another Wolverine movie.

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I'm still hoping for a variation of old man Logan. I'm sure they can make it work if they replaced the copyrighted characters

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If it takes place directly after TW but before the after credit scene, that woukd mean bone claws.

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Weapon X
Directed by Mangold

The Wolverine is called to Japan when Mariko disappears. With the help of Yukio and Mariko's cousin Shiro Yoshida, Logan begins his search only to find out that he was baited. Hunted and on the run, Logan's search will bring him to Russia where he will confront old enemies and new ones.

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Logan/Wolverine - Hugh Jackman
Yukio - Rila Fukushima
Shiro Yoshida - Shido Nakamura
Mariko - Tao Okamoto
Truett Hudson/The Professor - John Noble
Sabretooth - Liev Schreiber
Omega Red - Konstantin Khabenskiy

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Weapon X
Directed by Mangold

The Wolverine is called to Japan when Mariko disappears. With the help of Yukio and Mariko's cousin Shiro Yoshida, Logan begins his search only to find out that he was baited. Hunted and on the run, Logan's search will bring him to Russia where he will confront old enemies and new ones.

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Logan/Wolverine - Hugh Jackman
Yukio - Rila Fukushima
Shiro Yoshida - Shido Nakamura
Mariko - Tao Okamoto
Truett Hudson/The Professor - John Noble
Sabretooth - Liev Schreiber
Omega Red - Konstantin Khabenskiy
Not another lame kidnapping the love interest story. Need something more polarizing and impactful.

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Weapon X
Directed by Mangold

The Wolverine is called to Japan when Mariko disappears. With the help of Yukio and Mariko's cousin Shiro Yoshida, Logan begins his search only to find out that he was baited. Hunted and on the run, Logan's search will bring him to Russia where he will confront old enemies and new ones.

Cast
Logan/Wolverine - Hugh Jackman
Yukio - Rila Fukushima
Shiro Yoshida - Shido Nakamura
Mariko - Tao Okamoto
Truett Hudson/The Professor - John Noble
Sabretooth - Liev Schreiber
Omega Red - Konstantin Khabenskiy
Having Mariko kidknapped again and hunted and being on the run sounds pretty much the same as TW.

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I'm still hoping for a variation of old man Logan. I'm sure they can make it work if they replaced the copyrighted characters
Looking over the story, it would have to be one hell of a variation.

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Old 12-18-2013, 07:13 AM   #113
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If it's in new timeilne, this time Logan should be kidnapped to Russia.
Colossus, Kitty and Rogue goes to help him.

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A mashup of Mutant Genesis, Romulus and Skinning of Souls should be the storyline. Omega Red FTW.

I'd like to see this be something where the prologue is Wolverine fighting Omega Red back in Veitnam in the 1960s. Wolverine is unable to finish him off back then and he escapes. At this point, Omega Red has organic tentacles that can drain people and a healing factor of his own.

Wolverine then heads back to base after Omega Red attempted to drain him and the doctors confirm that his healing factor is still working and he'll make a full recovery after doing a blood test.

Then sometime in the 90s or later, Omega Red is frozen after the experiment to fuse him with carbonadium left him highly toxic with the intent being to keep him in suspension until a cure can be found. He's being auctioned off to the highest bidder with Sebastian Shaw's son winning the auction. In this state, Omega Red has had his entire skeleton bonded with carbonadium, including his tentacles making him nearly invincible.

Upon being asked to join the new Hellfire Club, Omega Red rebels and drains Shinobi Shaw to death before fleeing to go on a killing spree.

Wolverine then heads to Moscow with Colossus where he meets up with Agent Zero who in the new timeline was never killed during the events of XMO as Logan was off with Xavier at the time. This time around, Weapon X wasn't led by Stryker, only a mysterious general named Romulus. Wolverine still retains his memories of the old timeline and naturally distrusts Agent Zero along with his companion Lady Deathstrike. Weapon X is revealed to have been created as a response to Omega Red's upgrades during the Cold War as part of an arms race to build super soldiers.


Once Omega Red tracks down Wolverine and Colossus (along with the newly introduced Magik) in the Moscow Metro, he mentions how he's longed for a rematch. Colossus heads back home with Magik to keep her safe from harm while Wolverine fights Omega Red.

Omega Red kills a number of innocents in the subway while Wolverine tries to save them. Agent Zero comes to the rescue and together with Wolverine, they manage to chase Omega Red away.

Wolverine and Agent Zero then team up to stop Omega Red at all costs but Omega Red has found Colossus' family's apartment during their Christmas dinner. He manages to not just drain Magik but poisons her, leaving her hospitalized.

Wolverine asks Agent Zero what he knows about how to stop Omega Red, Lady Deathstrike mentions that adamantium is stronger than carbonadium and that a sword she calls the Muramasa Blade that's an alloy of carbonadium and diamond was built solely for the purpose of killing Omega Red but it's for her and her alone.

The three set out to take on Omega Red once and for all. There's just one problem, Lady Deathstrike mentions that the mission was never to kill Omega Red, merely to recruit him for Weapon X. Also, Agent Zero who she describes as too much of a "maverick" is meant to be terminated. Wolverine blocks her attacks meant for Agent Zero and duels her. Lady Deathstrike escapes to track down Omega Red on her own.

Wolverine and Agent Zero then return to the hospital where Magik dies and Colossus vows to avenge her. Colossus' brother Mikhail comforts him and then says that he'll stay behind to mourn her as the three heroes set off for the final battle.

Mikhail is then shown creating a temporal paradox around Magik to bring her back to life and demands that she follow him as she'd normally be dead.

Lady Deathstrike demands that Omega Red join her and when he refuses, she duels him with the Muramasa blade in Red Square. Omega Red gains the upper hand and kills her along, then sets his sights on the various spectators when Wolverine, Agent Zero and Colossus join the fight. Over the course of the fight, the Muramasa blade changes hands repeatedly, before Wolverine finally grabs it and then uses it to finish off Omega Red once and for all.

Maverick then gets a text message from Romulus requesting that Wolverine head to St. Basil's cathedral alone. Wolverine obliges. Here Wolverine meets Romulus who mentions that if it weren't for his previous entanglements with the X-Men, he'd have been a perfect recruit for Weapon X. With the Cold War now over, Romulus' plan is to have Weapon X go rogue and then stage a coup against much of the world to allow mutants and the various creations grown in the Weapon X labs (Romulus displays photographs of Fantomex and Domino as examples of what Weapon X has birthed.) Wolverine asks why him and Romulus informs him that Wolverine is his descendant as Romulus has been alive for thousands of years and Wolverine is the culmination of his bloodline along with those of several other mutants, making him genetically perfect. Wolverine wants no parts in this but that's when Romulus informs Wolverine that back during the 60s, Wolverine's DNA was taken and uses to make a clone of him. His daughter is known as Weapon XXIII and he won't hesitate to kill her. More importantly, Romulus has spies everywhere, including Colossus' brother Mikhail. Romulus makes a phone call and tells Mikhail that Agent Zero is a liability, as is Colossus and to kill them both, upon getting back to base, the Weapon XXIII project is canceled. Wolverine then duels Romulus before finally killing him within the cathedral.

Colossus and Agent Zero then return home to not only find Magik alive and well but Mikhail waiting for them with Colossus' dead parents. Mikhail tells Magik to kill them as Wolverine races back to Colossus' home. Colossus charges at Mikhail and smashes him through the apartment complex while Agent Zero tries to bypass Magik's teleportation with a number of gunshots. As the four of them fight, Magik eventually gains the upper hand against Colossus and right as she's about to kill him, she realizes that she can't bring herself to kill her own brother, which is when Mikhail says that he may have to finish things himself. Wolverine then enters the doorway and stabs Mikhail in the back, killing him.

After Magik mentions that she has nowhere to go now that Mikhail killed her parents, Colossus tells her that she belongs in the X-Mansion and he'll look out for her. Agent Zero then declines joining the X-Men and says that he's ready to head out on his own with the line, "I'm way too much of a maverick to keep following somebody else's orders."

During the post-credits scene, Weapon XXIII is held in a water tank wearing nothing but a one-piece leotard. She appears to be no older than a young teen. The scientists mention to each other that her project is to be terminated. Doctor Kinney agrees but intentionally hits the wrong button to awaken her. Weapon XXIII breaks out of her tank, slaughters most of the scientists but then holds her claws up to Doctor Kinney's neck, asking why she should also be allowed to live. Doctor Kinney then reaches into her pocket and gives her a number of forged documents under the name "Laura Kinney" and tells her to track down Wolverine and she she'll be safe with him. X-23 then walks out of the door to her lab, the screen fades to black and gunfire and screams are heard.

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The way that certain characters would be depicted is that Omega Red isn't completely without sympathy. Everyone in the film wants to use of destroy him and he's merely rebelling against a world that has never accepted him. All that he really wants is freedom and dignity. When forced to be seen as a monster or a slave by everyone around him and never as a person, he's acting out because he really just wants to live the life that he was always denied.

Magik is a teenager who's trying to find her place in the world, her teleportation powers make her consider being an X-Man but she also wants to live a normal life and not be seen as an outcast. Up until her death, she's conflicted with Mikhail telling her that she needs to hide her powers much as he has because people will be afraid while Colossus tells her that she shouldn't have to live in fear and needs to accept who she is.

Mikhail is usually considered to be mild mannered and comes across as ashamed of his time manipulation powers. Up until the hospital scene, he doesn't appear to be villainous but still mentions a history that isn't elaborated upon with Colossus.

Agent Zero is cocky and up until he becomes Maverick at the end of the film he's torn with obeying an organization that is admittedly shady and trying to do what he thinks is right. Wolverine's knowledge of the previous timeline leads to some awkward moments after Agent Zero says, "you're going to kill me for this, Logan" so there will still be nods to previous continuity.

Lady Deathstrike without Styker but with Weapon X still present is incredibly impatient and abrasive and modified herself with cybernetics that merge with her natural abilities but openly despises being a mutant and looks down on others. Her implants are a means of trying to replace her natural powers with ones that she chose to have and believes that being born a mutant robbed her of her ability to choose her destiny.

Romulus is intentionally kept as a mystery. Even after his reveal he doesn't show much in the way of personality or emotion but he certainly comes across as scheming. As somebody who's only physically present for one scene in the third act, it's only natural that he's not going to be fleshed out. While he may be the "big bad" of the film, Omega Red is the villain for the first two acts and the beginning of the third and then Mikhail becomes the main antagonist during the third act. Romulus (much like in the comics) is more of a plot device than a character.


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As far as casting, I'd say that it's far too early for casting Magik since she needs to be young and preferably from Russia.

Vasiliy Stepanov (The Inhabited Island) as Omega Red is a very easy choice.

Pyotr Fyodorov (Russia 88) would be Mikhail

Daniel Henney can remain Agent Zero

Kelly Hu may be too old to remain Lady Deathstrike but I guess that's up to the studio to decide. I'd like to see how she develops without Stryker's mind control but that's up to the studio to decide.

William Dafoe would be Romulus since Romulus has always been an older man.

And yes, keep Jackman and Cudmore. Cudmore may have to learn Russian for a few scenes but how is that a bad thing?

The themes would be how different characters react to having super powers and there would be some scenes where Chechens are shown discriminated against which is why mutants have to keep their powers secret to draw a metaphor for racism in contemporary Russia with Omega Red specifically referred to as being from Chechnya or Dagestan while Colossus is seen as a hero of Russia since he's a Slav. It's probably a bit overt but these are the themes that the X-Men have always used. One mutant being a "freak" and another who people celebrate but are still wary of does certainly ram the point home that Omega Red is merely the product of his environment. The racial baggage, stigma over being a mutant AND being an albino make him an outcast while Colossus can still in some ways blend in just enough that people will still accept him.


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After getting "old Man Logan" for xmas I would love to see this adapted for film. Cant see it happening though as is very dark and would have to be an 18/M rated film to work plus all the rights issues would make in a non-starter but damn if there isnt loads that Mr Jackson could really sink his teeth into with this story, bleak to say the least but brilliant.

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How does Wolverine get old if his powers regenerate,so he would never get wrinkles or grey hair?

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His powers don't completely stop his aging, it just slows it down significantly. If they completely stopped it, he'd never would have grown past his late teens.

The grey hairs are/were to illustrate just how stressful and dire the situation in the future is. If Wolvie is going grey, you know it's bad.


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He still ages, just a lot slower than a normal human.

Plus in the story the enemy get him to do some pretty messed up things that really ****s with his head.

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Isn't Days of Future Past essentially going to undo everything from The Wolverine?

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^They could place the movie in the 2 year gap between the end of TW and the after credits scene if thats the case.

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^They could place the movie in the 2 year gap between the end of TW and the after credits scene if thats the case.
They could - and although I was not a fan of that idea initially, it could work. It might have worked even better had they kept the alternate ending with the Wolverine comic book costume.

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Setting it up after TW and before DOFP could be really confusing to the general audience. Just imagine how they would react to it.

And it could look like a filler movie which won't lead to anything bigger that we haven't seen yet.

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