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Old 02-25-2014, 04:46 PM   #551
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Audrey thanks for that link to the website. i've just had a quick glance at it and it's a bit shocking seeing some of the results. Will read it when I get the time.

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I know. I believe calling Rachel a poorly written character is an exaggeration (I used "terribly" mostly for effect, didn't mean to misquote you or put words in your mouth).

Which isn't quite the same as being poorly written. It's also not true. She was (along with Alfred, but to an admittedly lesser extent) Bruce's confidant, best friend, and conscience. If she hadn't (literally) slapped some sense into him in BB, he might not have ever become Batman.
We'll just have to agree to disagree, I think. I thought she was pretty poorly written and bland overall, although more so in TDK than BB. I thought most characters in the trilogy were written decent to amazingly well though.

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Most of our conversations end that way.

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^ Maybe we're both cantankerous individuals? Or we realize, unlike most, that we'd just go on debating forever if one doesn't realize we won't see eye to eye? Perhaps we have evolved...

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lol....Mrs.K and Scout need to get a room so they can be awesome....alone.

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I've heard so many people talk about how Superman would kill Lois if they ever had sex, but I've never heard someone make this point before and it's brilliant. If Superman's bodily fluids are so dangerous, then he'd have to use a kryptonite toilet every time he takes a dump.
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Fallen Angel just reminded me about the Lois Lane one shot that will be on sale tomorrow, Feb. 26. If you're a comic reader and a Lois Lane fan, you may want to check this out. I already pre-ordered my digital copy and I'll probably pick up a hard copy from the comic store on the weekend. It's part of the new 52, but it's Lois Lane-centric and that's all that matters to me.

It's Superman: Lois Lane #1 if you're interested.

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I've heard so many people talk about how Superman would kill Lois if they ever had sex, but I've never heard someone make this point before and it's brilliant. If Superman's bodily fluids are so dangerous, then he'd have to use a kryptonite toilet every time he takes a dump.
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Is it a "day in the life" type thing?

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Is it a "day in the life" type thing?




Nah it connects to her storyline from a few months back in Superman Annual #2.

This is what the solit says:

Lois Lane is known for chasing down stories — but what happens when the story is her family? As her father gains more power in the government, Lois’s sister Lucy has become involved with a deadly drug scene! Meanwhile, Lois thought she was rid of the influence of Brainiac, but now she finds that the the computer tyrant of Colu is calling out to her again!

Preview panels if you're interested.

http://http://uk.ign.com/articles/20...lane-1-preview

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Hmm...sounds interesting.

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I'm hoping folks check this out. DC needs to know Lois Lane has fans.

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Audrey thanks for that link to the website. i've just had a quick glance at it and it's a bit shocking seeing some of the results. Will read it when I get the time.
You're welcome.

Shocking, yeah. And depressing.

But it's all right there.

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I don't think the person was implying that there aren't perfectly healthy relationships where a man is 23 years older than a woman. Heck, I know several couples where the man is 20 years older and they are extremely happy. That's not gross at all.

What's "gross" is that it is a statistical fact that as men age in Hollywood their love interests stay the same age contributing to this terrible cultural problem. The data has been compiled on this and it was featured on several websites last year.

You can read the data here: http://www.vulture.com/2013/04/leadi...ests-dont.html

It's not gross at all for two consenting adults who are 23 years apart to be in a relationship. But it is gross that this problem has become standard in Hollywood because it DOES have a severe impact on the way both men and women view age and gender.

Women like Amy Adams and Sandra Bullock are fighting this fight for us right now as they are sometimes being paired with age appropriate men or even younger actors. I actually saw someone talking about this openly on twitter last week---about how POSITIVE it is to have a mass franchise like SUPERMAN that is so huge in the media featuring an age appropriate actress with a slightly younger man. This is a HUGE deal and it's a huge first step. But it's just a crack in the glass. All we can do is hope that more and more franchises get called out on this stuff and start to correct this wrong.

But Amy cannot fight this fight alone. The culture absolutely has to change. And the only way we get to that change is if we can talk about this stuff and make people learn and understand that this is a serious problem and that is DOES impact our kids growing up to see this stuff.

I assume this is what the other poster meant and I assume you did know this. But I think this is where they were coming from?

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^ Awesome quote by Chastain.

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Why "gross"? That's part of the problem right there. Everyone's hung up on age in one way or another. I personally think that when they pair actors for romantic parts that they should be fairly close in age....but there is no reason to say gross when we are talking about adults.
I guess it's just... in the real world, if two people met and fell in love and there was that much of an age difference, fine. But in a movie, 9 times out of 10, when you have a much, MUCH older male lead it's just another example of needless Hollywood sexism. So, maybe "gross" is the wrong word for it, but regardless... unless it's actually part of the story that the woman is supposed to be so much younger than the man, there's no need for it.

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An important aspect of Amy Adams' age, previously mentioned, is that I can believe that she is a successful reporter. The cutoff there is quite simple, she needs to look 30 and over, approximately. In addition to the awards, the confidence and bullishness displayed by Lois Lane in MoS is something I wouldn't be able to believe in if she were 23. It's the type of confidence that can either emerge from an irrational arrogance or a track record of success, where the second is what they were going for.

A prerequisite for the second movie for me is to see more Daily Planet social dynamics between Clark and Lois.

Thanks for letting me know about the comic-one-stop, I'll be going to the comic book store in downtown canberra then.

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Chastain brings up a good point. A lot is made of the fact that Hollywood cannot write and direct women characters as well as they can male characters, and that's true I think. There are fewer female protagonists, which is possibly an artefact of fewer female writers and directors. With that said I think that the audience is part of the problem. We're collectively much harsher in our evaluation of female characters and female-led films. We see this in mad men fandom where everybody loves Don Draper and hates Betty Draper (whom I assume is named after Betty Friedan) even though they both tell an interesting story, both stories being complementary. Anna Gunn of Breaking Bad has written an op-ed about the irrational hate directed toward her character.

I think that the biggest determinant of whether or not the general audience considers a female character to be well-written is how attractive the actress playing her is, and secondly whether or not she's supportive. It's shallow and unfortunate, but if we're wondering why Hollywood doesn't yield better female characters, part of the blame has to lie in the collective mirror. It is much harder to write female characters than it is to write male characters, because the audience won't try to pidgon-hole male characters as being either whores or naggy *****es.

But as more female characters are well-written over time (e.g. Katniss Everdeen), and they trickle in, the public's mind is broadened.


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I guess it's just... in the real world, if two people met and fell in love and there was that much of an age difference, fine. But in a movie, 9 times out of 10, when you have a much, MUCH older male lead it's just another example of needless Hollywood sexism. So, maybe "gross" is the wrong word for it, but regardless... unless it's actually part of the story that the woman is supposed to be so much younger than the man, there's no need for it.
I understand perfectly the position when talking about movie characters...but from your original post, that wasn't clear. I see posters repeatedly taking shots at "older" people on here (and other sites across the net) and was wondering if that was just more of the same. As someone who happens to be older than every other poster on here (I'm 56) and who also happens to be 13 years older than his wife...you may understand why I am wary of comments that say "gross" when talking of an older man being with a younger woman.

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Understandable; sorry about that. Didn't mean to sound like I was just taking a shot at older people. Guess it would have helped to have been clearer in my original post.

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Audrey thanks for that link to the website. i've just had a quick glance at it and it's a bit shocking seeing some of the results. Will read it when I get the time.
For all the criticism that Clooney gets for dating younger women, I was surprised to see his love interest on film have been mostly age appropriate by that article's standards.

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I'll be interested to see Adam's fashion choice for the Oscars. It'll be kinda of cold and there's a possibility of rain. I expect to see some great capes and shawls.

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I just read Lois Lane The New 52 #1.

It is ok. Has anybody else read it? I have low-comics literacy so I'm wondering how other people reacted to it. I also have trouble interpreting it as it takes place in the new 52, and I have no idea what's going on there.

The story, which is short, mostly focuses on Lois' relationship with her family and in particular, with Lucy Lane. Superman shows up in the story, but as a distant, bit player.

ETA: I wonder if one of the vigilante tattle tales on this forum will complain about me to the mods on the basis that discussing comic book lois lane is "off-topic" in the amy adams as lois lane forum.


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