The SuperHeroHype Forums  

Go Back   The SuperHeroHype Forums > Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice > Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-21-2014, 03:54 AM   #276
Brian Braddock
R.I.P. '96 Y.N.W.A.
 
Brian Braddock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Great Britain
Posts: 13,504
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Nice.

__________________
Klaus Hergesheimer - checking radiation shields....
Brian Braddock is offline  
Old 04-21-2014, 03:58 AM   #277
lujho
Side-Kick
 
lujho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Posts: 4,703
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by MrsKent26 View Post
^ Very nice. Slimmer is better when it comes to cowls.
I always feel like the original cowls weren't *meant* to be quite that big and chunky, it's just the best they could do. I feel like in 89 they were really trying for that Neal Adams look but they just couldn't quite get there. I feel like you could do a really sleek, slim 89 inspired cowl in silicone or something these days.

lujho is offline  
Old 04-21-2014, 04:29 AM   #278
MrsKent26
Whatever.
 
MrsKent26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Fortress of Solitude
Posts: 10,428
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by lujho View Post
I always feel like the original cowls weren't *meant* to be quite that big and chunky, it's just the best they could do. I feel like in 89 they were really trying for that Neal Adams look but they just couldn't quite get there. I feel like you could do a really sleek, slim 89 inspired cowl in silicone or something these days.
That makes sense. I hope they go the sleek route with Affleck's cowl.

__________________
"Somewhere in our darkest night, we made up the story of a man who will never let us down…" - Grant Morrison.

*
\S/T*
MrsKent26 is offline  
Old 04-21-2014, 04:34 AM   #279
lujho
Side-Kick
 
lujho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Adelaide, Australia
Posts: 4,703
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Honestly, I don't know why they didn't go the silicone route years or decades ago. Just seems so obvious.

lujho is offline  
Old 04-21-2014, 04:35 AM   #280
MrsKent26
Whatever.
 
MrsKent26's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Fortress of Solitude
Posts: 10,428
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by lujho View Post
Honestly, I don't know why they didn't go the silicone route years or decades ago. Just seems so obvious.
It does. Along with a few other things like less black rubber and more fabric.

__________________
"Somewhere in our darkest night, we made up the story of a man who will never let us down…" - Grant Morrison.

*
\S/T*
MrsKent26 is offline  
Old 04-21-2014, 09:03 AM   #281
Mr. Finger
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 368
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by lujho View Post
I always feel like the original cowls weren't *meant* to be quite that big and chunky, it's just the best they could do. I feel like in 89 they were really trying for that Neal Adams look but they just couldn't quite get there. I feel like you could do a really sleek, slim 89 inspired cowl in silicone or something these days.
I think it came down to technical restrictions .. More about the core and the negative mold.. And getting the casting off of the core. The neck area of the core was thickened to allow the head to fit through the neck area upon removal and demold.

Silicone, well it is a lot heavier.. And doesn't breathe well at all. When it is softened, it can also have problems with memory of shape, and it wants to stretch and deform.

For TDK & TDKR, they went to a light weight urethane.. Which is still heavier than foam and does not move well.

I still think that foam is the way to go.. Just needs to be handles well with the technical side of things. The core becomes the issue, and planning for the removal of the casting. The core needs to be more than one piece. A lot of technical mumbo jumbo.. But I think that that has been the major hurdle.

See if they can sort that one out this time.

Mr. Finger is offline  
Old 04-21-2014, 10:16 PM   #282
B:TAS
The Bat
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Dark Deco Gotham
Posts: 190
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Finger View Post
I think it came down to technical restrictions .. More about the core and the negative mold.. And getting the casting off of the core. The neck area of the core was thickened to allow the head to fit through the neck area upon removal and demold.

Silicone, well it is a lot heavier.. And doesn't breathe well at all. When it is softened, it can also have problems with memory of shape, and it wants to stretch and deform.

For TDK & TDKR, they went to a light weight urethane.. Which is still heavier than foam and does not move well.

I still think that foam is the way to go.. Just needs to be handles well with the technical side of things. The core becomes the issue, and planning for the removal of the casting. The core needs to be more than one piece. A lot of technical mumbo jumbo.. But I think that that has been the major hurdle.

See if they can sort that one out this time.
I would take a nice durable cloth over foam

__________________
"So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight."
B:TAS is offline  
Old 04-21-2014, 11:39 PM   #283
Bathead
The Oldest Geek
 
Bathead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Sumwear in Pencilvainya
Posts: 5,018
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint View Post
Keaton really gave a cool performance as Batman, with such presence that it completely overshadowed his physical limitations.

It's funny; Keaton and Bale both said they felt like idiots wearing the absurd costumes--but ultimately Keaton just had the better solution to the problem. He basically became a sociopath when he put the thing on. He wore the suit like it didn't matter that it was ridiculous, like his character didn't even notice--where Bale's entire performance was based around the idea that he had to do something over the top to match the absurdity of the costume.
I remember Keaton once said in an interview that Jack Nicholson told him, when Keaton asked him for advice on how to approach the role, to "play the suit." I suspect he took that advice to heart.

__________________
Little fly upon the wall,
Ain't you got no friends at all?
Wanna see God?
*splat*
Bathead is online now  
Old 04-22-2014, 12:03 AM   #284
guitarsingerguy
BK-201
 
guitarsingerguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Hell's Gate
Posts: 10,233
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

If they go with the white eyes, I'd like them to basically be how Daredevil's red lenses were.

guitarsingerguy is offline  
Old 04-22-2014, 12:55 AM   #285
BatScot
Mon the Hoops!
 
BatScot's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Paradise
Posts: 4,456
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Bloody hell, time does fly… Should old acquaintance be forgot and all that.

I wandered here from BOF, mostly because you could not talk about the “leaked” Batman Begins script there.

My first foray here had something to do with MJZ’s frankenbat avatar then came...



Ten years... and here we are still waiting for that First Look.

__________________
Dr. BatScot, PhD.
Black&Gray
Batman Created by Bill Finger
BatScot is offline  
Old 04-22-2014, 01:14 AM   #286
InJustice
Side-Kick
 
InJustice's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,085
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by guitarsingerguy View Post
If they go with the white eyes, I'd like them to basically be how Daredevil's red lenses were.
If they did it that way, wouldn't it be hard for the actor to even see what he's doing?

InJustice is offline  
Old 04-22-2014, 01:15 AM   #287
Bathead
The Oldest Geek
 
Bathead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Sumwear in Pencilvainya
Posts: 5,018
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by guitarsingerguy View Post
If they go with the white eyes, I'd like them to basically be how Daredevil's red lenses were.
I would like to see the white eyes, but I don't think they should necessarily glow, just be very noticeable.

__________________
Little fly upon the wall,
Ain't you got no friends at all?
Wanna see God?
*splat*

Last edited by Bathead; 04-22-2014 at 01:02 PM.
Bathead is online now  
Old 04-22-2014, 01:35 AM   #288
guitarsingerguy
BK-201
 
guitarsingerguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Hell's Gate
Posts: 10,233
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by InJustice View Post
If they did it that way, wouldn't it be hard for the actor to even see what he's doing?
Is it hard to see out of sunglasses? Those lenses were constructed by Oakley, so I doubt it. They can make the outer color different than what he actually sees.

guitarsingerguy is offline  
Old 04-22-2014, 01:36 AM   #289
guitarsingerguy
BK-201
 
guitarsingerguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Hell's Gate
Posts: 10,233
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bathead View Post
I would like to see the white eyes, but I don't think they should necessarily glow, just very noticeable.
I have no interest in seeing them glow either.

guitarsingerguy is offline  
Old 04-22-2014, 01:29 PM   #290
The Watchman
Balls McGee
 
The Watchman's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Over the Hills and Far Away
Posts: 12,140
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by BatScot View Post
Bloody hell, time does fly… Should old acquaintance be forgot and all that.

I wandered here from BOF, mostly because you could not talk about the “leaked” Batman Begins script there.

My first foray here had something to do with MJZ’s frankenbat avatar then came...



Ten years... and here we are still waiting for that First Look.
Amen Brother. The good old days.

__________________
The Dude Abides


I just blue myself
The Watchman is offline  
Old 04-22-2014, 01:55 PM   #291
InJustice
Side-Kick
 
InJustice's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,085
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by guitarsingerguy View Post
Is it hard to see out of sunglasses? Those lenses were constructed by Oakley, so I doubt it. They can make the outer color different than what he actually sees.
If you want them to be pure white, it can be. Even then, it could end up being a Spider-Man effect where the eyes reflect rather than stay consistently white.

InJustice is offline  
Old 04-22-2014, 01:58 PM   #292
Wayne Bruce
Not Bruce Wayne
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Bruce Manor
Posts: 178
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Just do the storm thing and use contact lenses.


Wayne Bruce is offline  
Old 04-22-2014, 04:32 PM   #293
I am Batman
Side-Kick
 
I am Batman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Gotham City
Posts: 804
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

I used to be really pro lenses but after reading Batman Earth One and watching the Batman Arkham Origins trailer I feel that a) they should show Batman's eyes and b) they need to work on making his eyes more noticable.

__________________
I am vengeance, I am the night, I AM BATMAN

"You're a stand up guy Bats, don't ever let them call you a crazed loner."
-The Flash, JLU
I am Batman is offline  
Old 04-22-2014, 05:08 PM   #294
Blackbat
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 152
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

we got eyes since forever with batman suits (all of older movies)

this is the time for white bat eyes (and grey n black suit).

and they can do it in cgi as glasses will not look right.

Blackbat is offline  
Old 04-22-2014, 06:40 PM   #295
Boom
I got nothin'
 
Boom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sitting on the nitpicket fence
Posts: 31,689
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by BatScot View Post
Bloody hell, time does fly… Should old acquaintance be forgot and all that.

I wandered here from BOF, mostly because you could not talk about the “leaked” Batman Begins script there.

My first foray here had something to do with MJZ’s frankenbat avatar then came...



Ten years... and here we are still waiting for that First Look.
That was beautiful.

I could man-cry right now .

__________________
Everything in this post is my fault.
Boom is offline  
Old 04-22-2014, 11:16 PM   #296
Saint
The Devil's Robot
 
Saint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Toronto.
Posts: 12,777
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Watchman View Post
Amen Brother. The good old days.
I actually started here under a different username in the long-long-ago, when the site was merely "Spider-Man Hype."

Needless to say, when they cast Batman as the guy everyone wanted to be Batman... that was a surprising day.

__________________
  • Days of Future Past is a game changer, positioning the X-Men films to overcome past mistakes and explore fresh, bold territory. PS: Now let's fix Cyclops.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint View Post
Also? Hilarious this, hilarious that, I win and you lose.
Saint is offline  
Old 04-22-2014, 11:57 PM   #297
Boom
I got nothin'
 
Boom's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sitting on the nitpicket fence
Posts: 31,689
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint View Post
I actually started here under a different username in the long-long-ago, when the site was merely "Spider-Man Hype."

Needless to say, when they cast Batman as the guy everyone wanted to be Batman... that was a surprising day.
And nine years later, "WHEEEERESH DA TRIGGAAAAAAARGH?!?!?!?"

__________________
Everything in this post is my fault.
Boom is offline  
Old 04-23-2014, 12:21 AM   #298
Wise
Watchtower Janitor
 
Wise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,235
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayne Bruce View Post
Just do the storm thing and use contact lenses.

That awful awful wig.

__________________
We've had a chai Zod... a soy chai.

HERESY!
Wise is offline  
Old 04-23-2014, 12:26 AM   #299
The Riddler
WITH NEW MATERIAL
 
The Riddler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Gotham City
Posts: 18,913
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

there is no scenario in which the suit will not impress. i have faith snyder and co. will get it right.

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt View Post
Ok children, I got a question for you.
If Kmack > the rest of you.
And Riddler > Kmack
Does that mean Riddler = God?
The Riddler is offline  
Old 04-23-2014, 08:06 AM   #300
RetrogradeOrbit
My own Dark Passenger
 
RetrogradeOrbit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: In my head, listening to its voice...
Posts: 2,679
Default Re: The Batsuit Thread - - - - Part 17

Amen to that...

__________________
"Carpe Diem"

I got thrown out of a window! What's the f***ing charge for getting pushed out of a moving car, huh? Jaywalking?

My father gave me one piece of advice. He said "Always. .." No, he said "Never..." well actually he gave me two pieces of advice, I've forgotten the other one. But the important one is, "Never chase a man over a cliff".
RetrogradeOrbit is online now  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:00 AM.

monitoring_string = "dee460792f24517621e3ca080805de7e"
Contact Us - Mobile - SuperHeroHype - ComingSoon.net - Shock Till You Drop - Lost Password - Clear Cookies - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Top - AdChoices


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SuperHeroHype.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.