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Old 04-22-2014, 11:00 AM   #576
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Very valid point.

Speaking of that I've actually read that the rate of steroid abuse among gay male teens is incredibly higher comapred to straight male teens and that probably plays into your point there.
Well I didn't really mean it like that, I don't think the way He-Man for example was designed has anything to do with sexual attractiveness, but more to do with being a male power fantasy. Characters are designed like this to make men feel more powerful.

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I can't speak with 100% authority on this but in the instance I described, is that some gay teens feel more pressure to live up to the perceived ideal male beauty standard that other males have.

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I can't speak with 100% authority on this but in the instance I described, is that some gay teens feel more pressure to live up to the perceived ideal male beauty standard that other males have.
Fair enough.

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Well I didn't really mean it like that, I don't think the way He-Man for example was designed has anything to do with sexual attractiveness, but more to do with being a male power fantasy. Characters are designed like this to make men feel more powerful.
But surely we should not ignore how male leads in particular have been sexually glorified thanks to their picturesque physiques. You may have a point in cartoons and comics, but outside those mediums the female demographic is most assuredly being targeted as well.

I saw this pic a while back, and it did make me laugh at how absurd it came off when its applied to the opposite sex:



And I say that as a guy. So yeah, both sides have definitely fallen to double standards because its been ingrained as the norm.

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Shoot, if that were to happen in the movie, it would be more like this.....



Batman would die.

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Old 04-22-2014, 11:27 AM   #581
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But surely we should not ignore how male leads in particular have been sexually glorified thanks to their picturesque physiques. You may have a point in cartoons and comics, but outside those mediums the female demographic is most assuredly being targeted as well.

I saw this pic a while back, and it did make me laugh at how absurd it came off when its applied to the opposite sex:



And I say that as a guy. So yeah, both sides have definitely fallen to double standards because its been ingrained as the norm.
Of course, I wasn't saying that men don't have body image pressures put on them, just that the difference between those pressures and the ones put on women are substantial, in response to a previous post that suggested that they were the same.

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Batman would die.
No he wouldn't. Do you know why? It's simple......




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This argument holds no water to me. Perfect and unreasonably beautiful women are a male fantasy. Super ripped male heroes are also a male fantasy. In no way did they design He-Man to look like that to appeal to girls. It's completely inacccurate to say that men have the same body image pressures put on them as women do.
Agree. I would argue however that Barbie is not a male fantasy but a female fantasy. I think He-Man is sometimes seen as a gay male fantasy. I would definitely agree that female superheroes are often mostly seen as male fantasy, although more and more females are into comic books these days. Almost 50/50 these days in the male/female percentage, unlike before where comic books was more exclusively male dominated.

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While I agree to some extent, I would also say you should tell that to the girls lined up outside of Abercrombie and Fitch getting pictures with the shirtless models that great them.
Those guys are not even close to being muscular. They have a low bf% (12-9% usually), but they are not big in any way.

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They're the "Barbies" of the conversation then... regardless they have more of a 6-pack than the average fellow, and women (or whatever the attracted party may be) are generally drawn to that. If they have He-Man muscles or not isn't the real factor...just as with the FightClub reference, the dudes aren't huge, but because they are cut with a small waist it gives the optimum muscular frame perception that the attractivator is attracted to.

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The only way people will stop complaining about Affleck is if he and Cavill do this in the movie,

Please let this be the last scene of the movie

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Please let this be the last scene of the movie

That has to be the second last shot of the film the last one is them on top of some roof (Daily Planet building)? looking into the distance.

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No, it should end right there. Macho handshake and end credits (with some cheesy 80's rock music playing in the background).

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No, it should end right there. Macho handshake and end credits (with some cheesy 80's rock music playing in the background).
Supes has a big grin and yells out "you son of a BAT".

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Supes has a big grin and yells out "you son of a BAT".
With the Austrian accent? Cool.

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Please let this be the last scene of the movie
(Bruce has his back to Supes, scowling at the ground; cold. Capes blowing in the dark, only seeing his glowing white eyes)

(Extends his hand)
Kal: Please. I'm asking you one last time...

(Batman doesn't move. Skeptical. Supes keeps his arm extended)

Bats: (low voice) ".. and what makes you think I want to engage hands with you.."

Kal: (pauses; looks down, looks back up. Smiles.) Friend, join me.

(Bats thinks, turns around)
(Superman's arm still extended. They lock eyes.)

Kal: For truth..
Bruce: ..and justice.



/end credits.

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^ Nice!

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I don't get the Heil addition...should've quit while you're ahead.

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Ignoring his fashion sense, It looks like Affleck's face is much less puffy than before. It looks like he might be cutting weight now.


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Too skinny - eat something, Ben!

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get that man a slice of pizza

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The car is so damn fine.

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Ignoring his fashion sense, It looks like Affleck's face is much less puffy than before. It looks like he might be cutting weight now.

Yeah but his jacket is teh puffy

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