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Old 05-14-2014, 05:22 PM   #626
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This was an ok Episode. But I'm seriously getting annoyed at how useless these Super Soldiers are, and how inept they have to be portrayed, so Coulson and his Team don't get slaughtered in seconds.

Like for example, why the hell did the Soldiers shoot at nothing, after Garrett punched Coulson behind the boulders? Were the Soldiers hoping that a ricochet would hit and kill Coulson?
Default mode - protecting Garrett could limit their actions to pure defense

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Old 05-14-2014, 05:23 PM   #627
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Here's an odd point - in the finale, I preferred Garrett's chest plate to the one currently on Deathlok. I hope they upgrade Deathlok's chest plate in future seasons

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Old 05-14-2014, 05:31 PM   #628
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That's why the team should have Deathlok on speed dial in the future, so he can take on major threats that should be able to make quick work of the rest of the team.
What about the beginning of the Episode then? Where you have several super soldiers in the basement with the team, and instead of rushing them and again, slaughtering them in seconds, they only knock out Triplet, apparently not even breaking a single one of his bones, two get taken out by guns, May steals the staff, and then apparently everyone went on a coffee break, because I don't hear anyone getting shot or punched for way too long.

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That's why the team should have Deathlok on speed dial in the future, so he can take on major threats that should be able to make quick work of the rest of the team.
They seriously need someone super powered on the team, so we can avoid these scenarios.

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Old 05-14-2014, 06:00 PM   #629
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I agree...it's a bit of a flaw on the show. I guess May had that Asgardian weapon, which should be able to take on Extremis guys...but they seemed to be able to put up a better fight in Iron Man 3.

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Old 05-14-2014, 06:09 PM   #630
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So did fitz just get friend zoned? Lol I noticed on how after he gave his big confession to Simmons, she just kissed him everywhere on his face except for his lips, almost like how some sibling like friends do.lol

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Old 05-14-2014, 06:11 PM   #631
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So did fitz just get friend zoned? Lol I noticed on how after he gave his big confession to Simmons, she just kissed him everywhere on his face except for his lips, almost like how some sibling like friends do.lol
it's a weird relationship. she used to pack him "sammiches" for his missions.

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Old 05-14-2014, 06:12 PM   #632
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Man, i'm glad i kept watching the show! i was so close on giving up on the show, but the last few episodes has been excellent! few hiccups here and there nothwithstanding.

This finale gave us more than satifactory payoffs to the several storylines that's been running since the beginning of the show, so thumbs up from me!

There were several highlights during the finale, but the most memorable to me was the beating may gave to Ward...that was sooo cathartic because it's a long time coming!

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Old 05-14-2014, 06:17 PM   #633
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So did fitz just get friend zoned? Lol I noticed on how after he gave his big confession to Simmons, she just kissed him everywhere on his face except for his lips, almost like how some sibling like friends do.lol
That's what I thought, she wanted him to know that she loves him, just not in the same way he loves her.

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Old 05-14-2014, 07:18 PM   #634
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Clark Gregg said we'd see two "old friends" --- Fury and Koenig --- and "a ghost." That's the guy Raina and Quinn went to. Who do you think they're both loyal to?
When did he say that? Unless he was clearly talking about the season finale, I'd imagine the old friends would be Fury and Hill and the ghost would be Koenig.

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can we drop the "Agents of", and just call the show "S.H.I.E.L.D."?
Well, they went with that name because they wanted to avoid confusion with "The Shield," so I doubt they'll change it. It's also a play off of Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD.

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It'll probably be hard to keep that a secret given a certain promotion he's gotten.
On the contrary, I think he kind of has to keep the whole organization a secret, not just his identity.

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Well, given the way it ended, I think she was telling the truth when she later said she was speculating that it was a Kree and had no inside knowledge. After all, unless they told her specifically (as opposed to finding out through the scripts), she couldn't have found out (since there wasn't any reveal this season). And it seems unlikely they'd tell her since they like to keep their cards close (they didn't tell Ward until much later, for example). Don't get me wrong, he's definitely a Kree, I just don't think she has any inside knowledge on that point.

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Old 05-14-2014, 07:31 PM   #635
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Here's an odd point - in the finale, I preferred Garrett's chest plate to the one currently on Deathlok. I hope they upgrade Deathlok's chest plate in future seasons
I completely agree, Garrett looked amazing! It's probably too expensive to do on a regular basis though... That's they only reason I can think would be logical for Mike's costume. (It's definitely grown on me though, I wish the showed the leg more often and they had integrated the vest into the shirt more so it looked less like a vest.)

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Old 05-14-2014, 08:06 PM   #636
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When did he say that? Unless he was clearly talking about the season finale, I'd imagine the old friends would be Fury and Hill and the ghost would be Koenig.
In a tweet from Monday:
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:35 PM   #637
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:43 PM   #638
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Interesting. It still feels like Koenig would be the ghost, though, but I don't think there's anyone else who's an old friend in the episode.

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Old 05-14-2014, 08:47 PM   #639
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Interesting. It still feels like Koenig would be the ghost, though, but I don't think there's anyone else who's an old friend in the episode.
I could see the Destroyer gun counting as an old friend

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I agree...it's a bit of a flaw on the show. I guess May had that Asgardian weapon, which should be able to take on Extremis guys...but they seemed to be able to put up a better fight in Iron Man 3.
They are not full Extremis. They are a cocktail of different tech, less than full Extremis.

I've watched this twice and everything holds up better than I thought. The first time, I wondered why May would throw the Asgardian weapon away but it was the only way to bring the house down without burying herself. The only way they get away without being followed.

I also wondered why they shot at Coulson but didn't go after him as he chatted with Fury. It appears the had to stay close to Garrett physically. Garrett was too far gone and didn't consider Coulson a threat to follow him up there himself.

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I could see the Destroyer gun counting as an old friend
Totally what I was thinking. Fantastic moment.

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Totally what I was thinking. Fantastic moment.
I wonder what name Phil has for the gun (ala Lola, his car).

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I could see the Destroyer gun counting as an old friend
Ooh, good point. I could see that.

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Everyone was expecting a character from the films, but no one saw The Gun coming.

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I wonder what name Phil has for the gun (ala Lola, his car).
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Everyone was expecting a character from the films, but no one saw The Gun coming.
lol I was completely plotzing then lol I wasn't sure just how far I had to go to catch up with real time since I was watching on the college's Satellite tv

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Old 05-14-2014, 09:49 PM   #650
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Odd miscellaneous tidbits I'm still mulling over for Season 2...

1. The little black "toolbox" cube that Coulson received is probably some sort of massive database similar to what Harry Osborne received from his Dad in TASM2.

2. Coulson seriously ought to consider keeping May away from power tools... all of them.

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