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Old 04-14-2014, 06:44 PM   #101
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To be fair, Eddie in SM3 was a petty dick, so a worse motivation would push him to the dark side easier than Eddie in SSM.

I think SSM's motivation was the best, even when compared to TAS.

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Old 04-14-2014, 06:57 PM   #102
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My favorite version of Venom though is the 90s animated series. That three part story arc was told so perfectly.

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Old 05-21-2014, 07:18 PM   #103
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Squarely at the feet of Arad, douchebag prick...

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Old 05-22-2014, 01:01 PM   #104
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Usually the answer would be Raimi, as the director is ultimately the one calling the shots behind the camera, but in this case it's Avi Arad. He's greedy and focused only on short term profits. Yes he's on the message boards to see what the fans are saying, not because he warns to give us what we want, but because he wants to see what we will spend our money on. This last effort with amazing 2 was proof of that alone. I think he needs to be fired. There are other people who make poor decisions like Michael Bay, and sometimes Shueler-Donnor, but Arad is so self righteous and arrogant that I honestly dislike him as a human being.

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Old 05-22-2014, 01:44 PM   #105
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For me... it was whoever decided that Tobey would dance and whoever decided to cast Topher Grace.

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Old 05-22-2014, 01:50 PM   #106
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For me... it was whoever decided that Tobey would dance and whoever decided to cast Topher Grace.
Topher was good casting for what they were doing with venom. He was an anti-spider-man, like Nega-Scott from Scott Pilgrim.

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Old 05-22-2014, 02:49 PM   #107
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Sure he's to blame for Venom but what about the execution of the character or the other problems?

Studios ask all sorts to be included. Marvel wanted Joss to include Black Widow and he made that work?

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Old 05-22-2014, 05:03 PM   #108
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Sure he's to blame for Venom but what about the execution of the character or the other problems?

Studios ask all sorts to be included. Marvel wanted Joss to include Black Widow and he made that work?
I do think in SM3, Raimi tried to make a version of Venom that fit his movie. This is why we got Topher as Venom. He wanted not just evil Spider-Man, but evil Peter Parker. The problem is, he had other things he wanted to do with the movie, and everything felt rushed and underdeveloped. I think Sony is to blame for putting Venom in the movie, and Raimi is to blame for trying to please everyone (including himself) and ultimately, no one was pleased.

Joss including Widow isn't exactly the same thing because Widow was already in other films and fit into the story organically already. Joss didn't have to change much to accomodate.

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Old 05-24-2014, 06:41 PM   #109
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Sure he's to blame for Venom but what about the execution of the character or the other problems?

Studios ask all sorts to be included. Marvel wanted Joss to include Black Widow and he made that work?
There was more room for screen time for Black Widow. Not to mention she had already been introduced in Iron Man 2.

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Old 05-24-2014, 10:02 PM   #110
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I'd still blame Raimi and the writers more than Arad. I believe Arad asked or suggested to Sam(not threatened as some would say)to include Venom. Most everyone wanted to see him and he(along with the symbiote storyline) really did fit better with the story of revenge and forgiveness than Vulture ever could.
Again,it wasn't Arad who made Tobey dance,made him all "emo," as most say,didn't conclude Harry's storyline in a correct way,made Sandman Ben's killer,had MJ get kidnapped for the 3rd film in a row....and made all the other problems that alot of people give to the film.

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Old 05-26-2014, 09:35 PM   #111
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There was way too much dancing in SM3. Get rid of all the dancing scenes and SM3 is as good as better than/TASM imo

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I hated the dancing too, really I did. You might be forgetting how vicious symbiote Spidey was in his subway battle with Sandman, his battle with Harry, and hitting Mary Jane. The darkside was there. It just that, I think, Sam wanted the symbiote-influenced Peter to be more a cocky *******. That is a pretty anti-version of Sam's timid and mild-mannered Peter Parker. It might not be everyone's favorite sort of evil Peter, but it is in line with Raimi's character.

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