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Old 06-06-2014, 05:43 PM   #76
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Just enough wriggle room for when you're wrong, eh?
as if those who believe she is 'miscast' would change their tunes if she proves not to be

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I disagree.

If someone want to say Gadot was miscast they can do it. Maybe you meant more in the way that we can't predict if she fail or not, which is true. But saying what you think will happen is ok.

In my eyes, the odds are 90-10 against Gadot.
You're wild hatred of Gadot has caused you to nonsensically respond to my post. How amusing.

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Fact is nobody knows if Gadot was miscast or not because we haven't seen her performance.
don't you be throwing around logic and common sense here.........

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as if those who believe she is 'miscast' would change their tunes if she proves not to be
I'm quoting this as I agree with roach. I've seen people disregard casting choices as "crap" (not just in comic movies ) and when the actor or actress proves to do well in the role and is regarded as such by the majority of the general audience and critics alike they still stubbornly stuck to the judgement they made beforehand insisting they were right. I am not pointing any fingers just something I've seen happen over and over.

As for Gal Gadot, I will wait and see how she is in the role. I'm a fan of the Fast movies, and while she wasn't asked to do much, I thought what she was asked to do, she did well enough. Is she capable of more? We'll find out. More often than not I have liked Snyder's casting decisions. I'm excited to see what she brings to the role. The role is hers, there is no reason other actresses should be being discussed for this part in this thread. If you want to talk about another choice, it can be done in the JL Catsing or other WW threads.

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And that Stigma only exists because those films were awful and weren't marketed as well as the male led films with similar budgets but don't tell Hollywood that.

Times are quickly changing, several genre films starring women have done well. Nobody wants to see some generic looking bad movie about a half naked woman with no personality beating people up.
Agree. The problem with films like 'Catwoman' (so bad it's good) and 'Supergirl' (so bad) isn't the gender of the lead, it's the poor script and directing. It's baffling that in 2014 the concept of a superheroine film is still an actual discussion. There are many terrible male fronted comic book movies ('Daredevil', 'Hulk', 'Green Lantern', 'Batman & Robin' etc) and Hollywood's solution to that is just to make better ones. But a couple of bad female fronted cbm and suddenly it's a strike against the entire gender...

I think the main problem is that for some reason with women in film we're unable to get past her gender and everything that happens in the script has to be based around it whereas male characters are seen as 'default' and therefore taken for granted.

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In my eyes, the odds are 90-10 against Gadot.
How does one calculate odds such as these? Doesn't make sense to me considering we know so little.

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Didn't they say they tweaked the batman costume for TDKR and it was basically the same?

I think when they mean tweak, they're referring to convenience, application, and function of the suit- not necessarily dealing with the aesthetic/fashion aspects of it.

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I disagree.

If someone want to say Gadot was miscast they can do it. Maybe you meant more in the way that we can't predict if she fail or not, which is true. But saying what you think will happen is ok.

In my eyes, the odds are 90-10 against Gadot.
Since she looks perfectly fine for the role, I am assuming your hate is for her acting ability...

Could I get a list of the films and acting roles you've seen so I can get a good watch too?

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After the last AMC episode (Where John Campea called Gal as "the worst casting in Hollywood history"
He must not have seen Topher Grace as Venom.

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How does one calculate odds such as these? Doesn't make sense to me considering we know so little.
You know, because numbers and ****.

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I disagree.

If someone want to say Gadot was miscast they can do it. Maybe you meant more in the way that we can't predict if she fail or not, which is true. But saying what you think will happen is ok.

In my eyes, the odds are 90-10 against Gadot.
You didn't read Spidey's post correctly....here it is -
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Fact is nobody knows if Gadot was miscast or not because we haven't seen her performance.
If you examine that...nowhere in it does she say - you can't say that you THINK she was miscast - .....she says that - nobody knows if she was miscast.

That is a big difference. One that you apparently are blinded to.

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I am sure some that post in this thread are stuck in a Groundhog Day style situation, it's like they log in and have forgotten that they already have 358 posts stating that Gadot is too skinny and shouldn't be Wonder Woman.

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I am sure some that post in this thread are stuck in a Groundhog Day style situation, it's like they log in and have forgotten that they already have 358 posts stating that Gadot is too skinny and shouldn't be Wonder Woman.
Agreed she won the role why is so to understand ..

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Honest question

After the last AMC episode (Where John Campea called Gal as "the worst casting in Hollywood history" and even refused to even think about the idea that she might did well in the audition). Will Campea change his mind if she nails her role? or is Campea already decided that he hate her and she sucks no matter what.

Should we just ignore him at this point?
the answer is yes.

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Honest question

After the last AMC episode (Where John Campea called Gal as "the worst casting in Hollywood history" and even refused to even think about the idea that she might did well in the audition). Will Campea change his mind if she nails her role? or is Campea already decided that he hate her and she sucks no matter what.

Should we just ignore him at this point?
Does it really matter, what he thinks one way or another? For different reasons like a fanboy like Farcai, what does it matter if they praise it or hate on it?

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Does it really matter, what he thinks one way or another? For different reasons like a fanboy like Farcai, what does it matter if they praise it or hate on it?
Fanboys favor validation of their own opinions, from spokespeople of their ilk. Trashing them for opposing views is nothing new.

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What annoys me about Campea is this. He said that he didn't like the casting when it was first announced, which is fine. He also said that he hoped that she'd prove him wrong, but then he has gone of to take shots at her at every opportunity. Seriously, they'll be talking about a completely unrelated topic, and he'll find a way to take a shot at the Gadot casting. We get it Campea, it's gone beyond being petty at this point, it's just sad.

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The odds of me caring about "she's miscast" comments is approximately 0/100 (give or take 0 or so)

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The odds of me caring about "she's miscast" comments is approximately 0/100 (give or take 0 or so)
I like those odds.

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The odds of me caring about "she's miscast" comments is approximately 0/100 (give or take 0 or so)
Those seem like solid numbers.

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She Looks great for wonderwoman, Still haven proven she can act let alone share a screen with Ben and Henry.

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She has a very statuesque look about her. I like it and i think its the look thats needed for WW.

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I disagree.

If someone want to say Gadot was miscast they can do it.

Maybe you meant more in the way that we can't predict if she fail or not, which is true. But saying what you think will happen is ok.
In case you haven't noticed they're already doing it.

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Is this a new way to quantify subjective statements ?

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Is this a new way to quantify subjective statements ?
As long as they are mine, why not? It's just that I see many more factors going against her then the other way. And a lot of them doesn't even have to do about her. She can do a great job, but if Wonder Woman is not well written in the film what will it matter?

Also, it kind bothers me when people say someone hates something. It's like if you don't love Gadot being cast, the only alternative is that you hate her.

Do I like her being cast? No. Do I hate her and want her to fail? Of course not. I believe what I always believed: many actresses can play Diana, but it's ultimately about how she will look on the screen. But different actresses make people more of less confident that they will deliver.

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I've noticed that unlike the male castings whenever Gal Gadot is brought up the issue seems to be centred purely around how she looks - her height, her weight, her boobs etc That's why in some ways I am glad John Campea is there to put things in perspective: her image should be the least of our concerns. The questions is, can Gal Gadot act?

From the little I've seen of her she's been, well, rubbish. Having said that, the direction she was given in those films was clearly to just "be hot" and she was cast in those roles to "be hot". I've never seen her with material that demands real emotion and this is what concerns me the most - what is Snyder planning to do with the character? If she's just there to be a sex object for the boys then it's safe to say that Campea is spot on.

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