Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? - Page 3

7Hells · 07-28-2006, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Batty Belfry

It's just when I do watch it I'm expecting the boy to say, "Wow, thanks Mean Joe" LOL!

Ya that part was a bit cheesey, lol you should make a sig or avatar with that caption and pic

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Originally Posted by Retroman

I think Bale should try some variety in his Batman voice.I loved it but at times it sounded forced.

The only thing that made me ok with it was the scene with Alfred right after he saves Rachel.
Alfred says something like "the only reason I didnt call the white coats blah blah wasnt about grandstanding" and Wayne says "Its not" in his Batman voice.
And each time he spoke after that his voice slowly went back to his Wayne voice. So I was able to see(hear) the transformation from one extreme to the other.
Thats when I realized he (as Wayne) is forcing it (as batman) so the voice sounding forced took on a different meaning. umm, hope that made sense

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Originally Posted by Retroman

And if he smiles in the sequel i'd like them to cap his teeth. Otherwise thats not the smile of a billionare playboy. You've got to keep up appearances in a position like that.

lmao, you always make me laugh, very nice. What an image

JokerNick · 07-28-2006, 08:37 AM

I can't beleive you guys are complaining about it sounding "forced"

IT"S SUPOSSED TO BE FORCED..... Bruce never talks like that ever, and to change your voice that dramacially, your going to have to force it..... he talked like that so when he questioned and talked to people as Batman, no one would have any idea who he was...... plus, if someone grabbed you, pulled you up 10 storys, and was yelling at you, what would scare you more, and harsh, deep, pissed off voice, or a voice that sounded normal, Batman uses fear as a weapon, and making his voice animalistic, is one of the best ways to top off the fear..........

Milkman95 · 07-28-2006, 08:41 AM

Cap his teeth?

What's wrong with them? They look good enough for me.............and his Batman voice is fine the way it is. I just hope he has another scene like he did with Flass again.........

7Hells · 07-28-2006, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Milkman95

Cap his teeth?

What's wrong with them? They look good enough for me.............and his Batman voice is fine the way it is. I just hope he has another scene like he did with Flass again.........

Gawd I love that scene

I think Retroman was kidding.

Atleast the way I took it, like gangsta cap his teeth in gold or something.

I think ya'all are missing the point about the forced voice.
We know he is trying to sound scary. What we mean is it sounded silly scary at some points. As in if someone was talking to you like that you would giggle even if they were hanging you by your feet 10' up.

JokerNick · 07-28-2006, 08:53 AM

^Bruce Wayne with a grill

I'm doing a Manip now of that!!!

Milkman95 · 07-28-2006, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 7Hells

Gawd I love that scene

I think Retroman was kidding.

Atleast the way I took it, like gangsta cap his teeth in gold or something.

I think ya'all are missing the point about the forced voice.
We know he is trying to sound scary. What we mean is it sounded silly scary at some points. As in if someone was talking to you like that you would giggle even if they were hanging you by your feet 10' up.

Oops, I'm a little slow this morning............got it now Retro.....
'

7Hells · 07-28-2006, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JokerNick

^Bruce Wayne with a grill

I'm doing a Manip now of that!!!

If you can, manip a pic from the flass scene when he is showing the upper and lower teeth

And you better post it if you really do.

BatScot · 07-28-2006, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick Grayson

That's not his real voice.

I understand why he would want to disguise his voice...

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Originally Posted by Dick Grayson

It's like he's doing some lameass Clint Eastwood impersonation.

... that's the problem.

JokerNick · 07-28-2006, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 7Hells

If you can, manip a pic from the flass scene when he is showing the upper and lower teeth

And you better post it if you really do.

find me a nice hi res pic of it, and I'll do it litidy split

COME ON ! · 07-28-2006, 09:36 AM

Bale did everything just right. He was spot-on IMO.

COME ON ! · 07-28-2006, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JokerNick

I can't beleive you guys are complaining about it sounding "forced"

IT"S SUPOSSED TO BE FORCED..... Bruce never talks like that ever, and to change your voice that dramacially, your going to have to force it..... he talked like that so when he questioned and talked to people as Batman, no one would have any idea who he was...... plus, if someone grabbed you, pulled you up 10 storys, and was yelling at you, what would scare you more, and harsh, deep, pissed off voice, or a voice that sounded normal, Batman uses fear as a weapon, and making his voice animalistic, is one of the best ways to top off the fear..........

You get it, dear sir !

Some people always find something to complain about.

7Hells · 07-28-2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by COME ON !

Some people always find something to complain about.

Of course, if consumers never challenge the quality of the products they buy they will never get what they really want

COME ON ! · 07-28-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 7Hells

Of course, if consumers never challenge the quality of the products they buy they will never get what they really want

It's not milk we're talking about here

Batman's voice is supposed to be scary and "forced", to put fear into the criminals and to keep his secret identity, er...... secret . Bale said he portrayed Batman as an animal when in the suit and his Bat-voice was awesome IMO

JokerNick · 07-28-2006, 10:00 AM

if they do have Harvey in this film, or the next, I want Batman to go off on her like that, then she kisses him on the noise.....

what would he do then???

BatScot · 07-28-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by COME ON !

Batman's voice is supposed to be scary and "forced"...

'Scary' and 'forced' are not synonymous: one can sound scary without being forced, and one can sound forced without being scary.

7Hells · 07-28-2006, 10:23 AM

^ zackly!

COME ON ! · 07-28-2006, 10:38 AM

I meant that what some people here perceive as "forced" is actually rather natural. I don't think Bale's Batman voice is forced, for me it is deep,scary,raspy and very animalistic. I wouldn't have it any other way and I don't think it could be improved upon from Bale or anyone else for that matter.

Ronny Shade · 07-28-2006, 11:33 AM

Okay here we go:

Bale's performance should undergo a single change: His Batman should get better.

I don't mean his portrayal of batman should get better. This was the FIRST batman movie (well besides the TAS films) where I liked the Bruce AND the Batman. I loved his elemental fury. I loved the raspy bat-voice. I loved the intensity of the stare.

I just think Batman's obsession level should increase and his fighting should become even more efficient. He's been batman for a little while now. He's getting better.

So often they use the "should I keep on the mission or should I quit and start a family or get married etc" device. I hope they don't do that. I want Batman to be an obsession story. I want Batman to be worried that he might go too far, not that he'll want to quit and get married. But that's all in the writing.

I'd also like to see him scare the bejeezus out of somebody just by staring at them, but I'm okay if he doesn't do that, because, as I've said before, that's not really Bale-Bat's style. It would be cool, though, to see him by the end of the third movie have become so complete and terrifyingly badass that that's all he has to do.

JokerNick · 07-28-2006, 11:35 AM

I want to see Batman grab one of the old mob bosses, and actually scare them to death... he's accidently gives them a heart attack....

jamie_mcgonigle · 07-28-2006, 11:43 AM

You people nitpicking the lighting are out of your minds. Completely out of your minds, you're picking apart Oscar nominated cinematography (a comic book getting Oscar nominated for cinematography is pretty extraordinary). AND the ASC Awards. They got it right, it's a brilliantly shot movie. I hope Wally keeps doing what he's doing because he knocked it out of the damn park and I'm sure he will again.

JokerNick · 07-28-2006, 11:45 AM

^yep.. well put

Bat Attack · 07-28-2006, 12:00 PM

What would you like to see stay in his performance?
Umm... As long as he dosn't start acting like Adam West or George Clooney thats fine.
What could he improve on?
His voice
What do you feel he should get rid of?
The 'sounds like he's been smoking for 20 years' sound in his Batman voice.
What should he add?
Maybe he can talk Goyer out of writing more one-liners in the script?
After seeing his performance do you trust him with taking liberties in the role as much as you trust Nolan if you liked BB?
Maybe.

Ronny Shade · 07-28-2006, 12:15 PM

with Goyer just overseeing the writing and Jonathon Nolan doing most of the actual fdring, I think we can count on a significant decrease in one liners

7Hells · 07-28-2006, 12:23 PM

Just because we are nitpicking doesnt mean we dont love it

criticalcasting · 07-28-2006, 01:36 PM

I'm not complaining too much about his Batman voice, I simply got used to it, but there were variations when he first met Rachel in the monorail station and when he talked to her when she woke up in the batcave. I would lean toward that batcave voice and the voice he used when he spoke to Gordon in Gordon's home. Otherwise, not too much change needed.

I think the "You never learned to MIND your surroundings!" line in the final fight scene was on point.

07-28-2006, 08:37 AM	#52
JokerNick Banned User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: otherside of the glass...... Posts: 4,538	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? I can't beleive you guys are complaining about it sounding "forced" IT"S SUPOSSED TO BE FORCED..... Bruce never talks like that ever, and to change your voice that dramacially, your going to have to force it..... he talked like that so when he questioned and talked to people as Batman, no one would have any idea who he was...... plus, if someone grabbed you, pulled you up 10 storys, and was yelling at you, what would scare you more, and harsh, deep, pissed off voice, or a voice that sounded normal, Batman uses fear as a weapon, and making his voice animalistic, is one of the best ways to top off the fear..........

07-28-2006, 08:41 AM	#53
Milkman95 MOS 6.14.13 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Motor City Posts: 15,431	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? Cap his teeth? What's wrong with them? They look good enough for me.............and his Batman voice is fine the way it is. I just hope he has another scene like he did with Flass again......... __________________ Man Of Steel In 2013, Once Again, You'll Believe A Man Can Fly......

07-28-2006, 08:53 AM	#55
JokerNick Banned User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: otherside of the glass...... Posts: 4,538	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? ^Bruce Wayne with a grill I'm doing a Manip now of that!!!

07-28-2006, 09:36 AM	#60
COME ON ! Christian Bale's sidekick Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 283	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? Bale did everything just right. He was spot-on IMO.

07-28-2006, 10:00 AM	#64
JokerNick Banned User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: otherside of the glass...... Posts: 4,538	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? if they do have Harvey in this film, or the next, I want Batman to go off on her like that, then she kisses him on the noise..... what would he do then???

07-28-2006, 10:23 AM	#66
7Hells Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Cellar Door Posts: 1,702	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? ^ zackly!

07-28-2006, 10:38 AM	#67
COME ON ! Christian Bale's sidekick Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 283	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? I meant that what some people here perceive as "forced" is actually rather natural. I don't think Bale's Batman voice is forced, for me it is deep,scary,raspy and very animalistic. I wouldn't have it any other way and I don't think it could be improved upon from Bale or anyone else for that matter.

07-28-2006, 11:33 AM	#68
Ronny Shade back for a limited time Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: was borderline for a while then crossed the border Posts: 18,768	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? Okay here we go: Bale's performance should undergo a single change: His Batman should get better. I don't mean his portrayal of batman should get better. This was the FIRST batman movie (well besides the TAS films) where I liked the Bruce AND the Batman. I loved his elemental fury. I loved the raspy bat-voice. I loved the intensity of the stare. I just think Batman's obsession level should increase and his fighting should become even more efficient. He's been batman for a little while now. He's getting better. So often they use the "should I keep on the mission or should I quit and start a family or get married etc" device. I hope they don't do that. I want Batman to be an obsession story. I want Batman to be worried that he might go too far, not that he'll want to quit and get married. But that's all in the writing. I'd also like to see him scare the bejeezus out of somebody just by staring at them, but I'm okay if he doesn't do that, because, as I've said before, that's not really Bale-Bat's style. It would be cool, though, to see him by the end of the third movie have become so complete and terrifyingly badass that that's all he has to do. __________________ /'GBZs we rockin hard. Lock it down like Scotland yard" -Bredd Loaf

07-28-2006, 11:35 AM	#69
JokerNick Banned User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: otherside of the glass...... Posts: 4,538	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? I want to see Batman grab one of the old mob bosses, and actually scare them to death... he's accidently gives them a heart attack....

07-28-2006, 11:43 AM	#70
jamie_mcgonigle Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 237	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? You people nitpicking the lighting are out of your minds. Completely out of your minds, you're picking apart Oscar nominated cinematography (a comic book getting Oscar nominated for cinematography is pretty extraordinary). AND the ASC Awards. They got it right, it's a brilliantly shot movie. I hope Wally keeps doing what he's doing because he knocked it out of the damn park and I'm sure he will again. __________________ IMDBpro Listing IMDB Listing

07-28-2006, 11:45 AM	#71
JokerNick Banned User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: otherside of the glass...... Posts: 4,538	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? ^yep.. well put

07-28-2006, 12:00 PM	#72
Bat Attack Mirth Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United States Posts: 14,173	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? What would you like to see stay in his performance? Umm... As long as he dosn't start acting like Adam West or George Clooney thats fine. What could he improve on? His voice What do you feel he should get rid of? The 'sounds like he's been smoking for 20 years' sound in his Batman voice. What should he add? Maybe he can talk Goyer out of writing more one-liners in the script? After seeing his performance do you trust him with taking liberties in the role as much as you trust Nolan if you liked BB? Maybe.

07-28-2006, 12:15 PM	#73
Ronny Shade back for a limited time Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: was borderline for a while then crossed the border Posts: 18,768	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? with Goyer just overseeing the writing and Jonathon Nolan doing most of the actual fdring, I think we can count on a significant decrease in one liners __________________ /'GBZs we rockin hard. Lock it down like Scotland yard" -Bredd Loaf

07-28-2006, 12:23 PM	#74
7Hells Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The Cellar Door Posts: 1,702	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? Just because we are nitpicking doesnt mean we dont love it

07-28-2006, 01:36 PM	#75
criticalcasting Side-Kick Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 395	Re: Bale's rendition; what should stay and what should go? I'm not complaining too much about his Batman voice, I simply got used to it, but there were variations when he first met Rachel in the monorail station and when he talked to her when she woke up in the batcave. I would lean toward that batcave voice and the voice he used when he spoke to Gordon in Gordon's home. Otherwise, not too much change needed. I think the "You never learned to MIND your surroundings!" line in the final fight scene was on point.

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