Would twilight be just as succesful if a bunch of models were the leads?

SatEL · 11-20-2009, 02:37 PM

Ok guys (and mods) this is not a bashing thread to hate on the twilight Saga I merely want to have a discussion about this without debunking the New moon thread. Was just wondering would it have impacted the Movies success if models where cast as opposed to the people that where, I mean a majority if not all of it's success comes from Teenage girls think so and so is hot.

Laderlappen · 11-20-2009, 02:43 PM

The twillight actors are basically like models except not good looking enough to be models.

Jackasscoley15 · 11-20-2009, 02:43 PM

Yeah.

terry78 · 11-20-2009, 02:48 PM

It's based on a popular, almost cult book series, so yeah. The fact that it's being brought to live action is more than enough for the fanbase.

KenK · 11-20-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Laderlappen

The twillight actors are basically like models except not good looking enough to be models.

Not even a part-time model?!?

bullets · 11-20-2009, 03:02 PM

I actually thought most of the actors in Twilight were models .Mainly Cullen's family and I think they had three lines of dialogue between them. they even had a GAP commercial halfway through the movie that showed people playing football.

Mace Dolex · 11-20-2009, 03:18 PM

Travis Van Winkle who you might've seen in movies like Accepted, Transformers, Friday The 13th, Meet The Spartans and looks like a model is proof that having a pretty face can't always guarantee you good parts.

bullets · 11-20-2009, 03:21 PM

^ he was hilarous in Friday the 13th

**Cmill216** · 11-20-2009, 04:09 PM

No. It wouldn't have. Because it's a perfect storm. Robert Pattinson has a certain mystique about him that fits the role perfectly. And Kristin Stewart's lack of a distinct personality fits the main character's lack of personality to the tee.

Spider-Vader · 11-20-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Laderlappen

The twillight actors are basically like models except not good looking enough to be models.

This.

xwolverine2 · 11-20-2009, 09:29 PM

i thought that was already the case... lol

RachelDawes · 11-20-2009, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmill216

No. It wouldn't have. Because it's a perfect storm. Robert Pattinson has a certain mystique about him that fits the role perfectly. And Kristin Stewart's lack of a distinct personality fits the main character's lack of personality to the tee.

I think if some random male model had been cast fangirls would be squealing about his mystique. It's the role that's attracting the girls, IMO, not the actor.

Heretic · 11-21-2009, 03:31 AM

I disagree. I havent seen the films, but apparently Robert Pattinson played "the hot guy girls want" in the Harry Potter films. His casting in twilight was PERFECT. He was already known by a segment of the geek-girl community as being a guy they should lust after. The books were a massive success (again, some would say that Potter helped with the entire "young girls reading books about goth stuff that they dont usually care about" trend) and the movie was going to be a hit. Pattinson, because of the Potter connection...and his "kinda emo, kinda goth but not too much to not be hot to adult women" look helped big time.

As far as Kristin Stewart...she is bland and boring...and honestly no sexier than most of the girls in line at midnight to see the film. She not even close to be being the hottest girl in her own film. This is PERFECT because the girls watching can put themselves on that screen, giving this non-character their own personality...believing that the guy of their dreams could fall for them as well since this girl isnt anything special.

I think it was all pretty brilliant. Not nearly brilliant enough for me to watch though.

A&W · 11-21-2009, 12:17 PM

I think they probably did require at least a small level of acting skill, because the level of attractiveness that the girls will feel for the characters is going to be somewhat based on their personalities, the way they talk, act and so on. They want young girls to think these characters are cool.

I saw the first movie not knowing what it was or having seen any previews expecting it to be a horror movie. It wasn't horrible but it was clearly not intended to be a piece of art that any director was going to take pride in. It was just clever marketing to make young teenage girls think it's cool, romantic, and trendy to be into these movies.

It's like Hannah Montanna kind of. My little sister didn't even like her untill she realized how popular she was. Twilight's success is at least partly kind of working the same way.

A big part of the reason so many girls are attracted the these guys in the first place is because they know so many other girls are attracted to them. The mere fact that these movies are popular is the cause of even more girls liking them.

A&W · 11-21-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Heretic

As far as Kristin Stewart...she is bland and boring...and honestly no sexier than most of the girls in line at midnight to see the film. She not even close to be being the hottest girl in her own film. This is PERFECT because the girls watching can put themselves on that screen, giving this non-character their own personality...believing that the guy of their dreams could fall for them as well since this girl isnt anything special.

I think it was all pretty brilliant. Not nearly brilliant enough for me to watch though.

I thought of that too. The girls is pretty but she looks young. she doesn't look like a girl in her 20's with huge breasts and nice hips. She's no Megan Fox. Young girls can relate to her and put themselves in her shoes and it probably helps them fantasize about having a hot Vampire and a hot werewolf fight over her LOL

A&W · 11-21-2009, 12:25 PM

You know the studio were the ones who spread the rumours about those two dating and everything. That actually is brilliant.

A&W · 11-21-2009, 12:25 PM

You know the studio were the ones who spread the rumours about those two dating and everything. That actually is brilliant.

PowersOfMind · 11-21-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by A&W

I thought of that too. The girls is pretty but she looks young. she doesn't look like a girl in her 20's with huge breasts and nice hips. She's no Megan Fox. Young girls can relate to her and put themselves in her shoes and it probably helps them fantasize about having a hot Vampire and a hot werewolf fight over her LOL

Well that is part of the claim to fame that the books have. Bella was supposed to be this everywoman who happens to be in love with a vampire. As eyeroll worthy as I find that (and I'm 26) a lot of these young girls have such an idyllic view of true love and romance that it plays right to them. Even some older women who should know better play right into that. As someone upthread said KStew has just the right amount of lack of personality that she's the perfect Bella.

I don't think they could hire mdel to play the parts and have it be as acceptable. Like fanboys, this fanbase is very vocal about who plays who and if they aren't accepting of who is playing a beloved character they will make it known.

RachelDawes · 11-21-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PowersOfMind

Well that is part of the claim to fame that the books have. Bella was supposed to be this everywoman who happens to be in love with a vampire. As eyeroll worthy as I find that (and I'm 26) a lot of these young girls have such an idyllic view of true love and romance that it plays right to them. Even some older women who should know better play right into that. As someone upthread said KStew has just the right amount of lack of personality that she's the perfect Bella.

I don't think they could hire mdel to play the parts and have it be as acceptable. Like fanboys, this fanbase is very vocal about who plays who and if they aren't accepting of who is playing a beloved character they will make it known.

I've never read any Twilight boards. Do fans object to a particular actor because he or she doesn't look like the character or are they like Hypesters and obsessively pick over the actor's resume?

terry78 · 11-21-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by RachelDawes

I've never read any Twilight boards. Do fans object to a particular actor because he or she doesn't look like the character or are they like Hypesters and obsessively pick over the actor's resume?

NOBODY is like a Hypester. The entire world would fall into disarray.

RachelDawes · 11-21-2009, 02:57 PM

I'm just saying that if the fans aren't worried about acting quality, then some random models could be plugged into the roles with little difference.

Fresh Prince · 11-21-2009, 02:58 PM

With it being a chick flicks it would of been even more successful.

PowersOfMind · 11-21-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RachelDawes

I've never read any Twilight boards. Do fans object to a particular actor because he or she doesn't look like the character or are they like Hypesters and obsessively pick over the actor's resume?

Ohh they do. It may not even have to do with the actors resume but it he or she doesn't look the part then fans are generally vocal about it.

Like one actress, Nikki Reed I believe is her name, I read a lot of hate directed towards her because she was picked to play one of the vampire clan. I think it was that the way the vampire girl she plays is desribed as the most beautiful person in the world in the book and a lot of the fans feel that Reed does not fit that description.

tallsy_1 · 11-22-2009, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mace Dolex

Travis Van Winkle who you might've seen in movies like Accepted, Transformers, Friday The 13th, Meet The Spartans and looks like a model is proof that having a pretty face can't always guarantee you good parts.

Casting directors will tell you that they're is such a thing as "too pretty." Some of the people on soap operas are actually fine actors, but have been deemed "too pretty" to make it in primetime or movies.

I think van Winkle's problem is different. He has a dbag vibe, which leads him to be only cast as jerky boyfriends.

Kurosawa · 11-23-2009, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cmill216

No. It wouldn't have. Because it's a perfect storm. Robert Pattinson has a certain mystique about him that fits the role perfectly. And Kristin Stewart's lack of a distinct personality fits the main character's lack of personality to the tee.

And allows the people who like it to project themselves into her spot. It really is brilliantly marketed.

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11-20-2009, 02:37 PM	#1
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bullets Inglorious Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in the abstract Posts: 13,230	Re: Would twilight be just as succesful if a bunch of models where the leads? I actually thought most of the actors in Twilight were models .Mainly Cullen's family and I think they had three lines of dialogue between them. they even had a GAP commercial halfway through the movie that showed people playing football. __________________ In thoughts from the visions of the night , when deep sleep falleth on men , Fear came upon me , and trembling , which made all my bones to shake.

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Mace Dolex yo Adrian, I did it! Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 828	Re: Would twilight be just as succesful if a bunch of models were the leads? Travis Van Winkle who you might've seen in movies like Accepted, Transformers, Friday The 13th, Meet The Spartans and looks like a model is proof that having a pretty face can't always guarantee you good parts.

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bullets Inglorious Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in the abstract Posts: 13,230	Re: Would twilight be just as succesful if a bunch of models were the leads? ^ he was hilarous in Friday the 13th __________________ In thoughts from the visions of the night , when deep sleep falleth on men , Fear came upon me , and trembling , which made all my bones to shake.

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Heretic Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Detroit needs heroes Posts: 5,203	Re: Would twilight be just as succesful if a bunch of models were the leads? I disagree. I havent seen the films, but apparently Robert Pattinson played "the hot guy girls want" in the Harry Potter films. His casting in twilight was PERFECT. He was already known by a segment of the geek-girl community as being a guy they should lust after. The books were a massive success (again, some would say that Potter helped with the entire "young girls reading books about goth stuff that they dont usually care about" trend) and the movie was going to be a hit. Pattinson, because of the Potter connection...and his "kinda emo, kinda goth but not too much to not be hot to adult women" look helped big time. As far as Kristin Stewart...she is bland and boring...and honestly no sexier than most of the girls in line at midnight to see the film. She not even close to be being the hottest girl in her own film. This is PERFECT because the girls watching can put themselves on that screen, giving this non-character their own personality...believing that the guy of their dreams could fall for them as well since this girl isnt anything special. I think it was all pretty brilliant. Not nearly brilliant enough for me to watch though. __________________ Once you lick the lollipop of mediocrity, you'll suck forever

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A&W Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 600	Re: Would twilight be just as succesful if a bunch of models were the leads? I think they probably did require at least a small level of acting skill, because the level of attractiveness that the girls will feel for the characters is going to be somewhat based on their personalities, the way they talk, act and so on. They want young girls to think these characters are cool. I saw the first movie not knowing what it was or having seen any previews expecting it to be a horror movie. It wasn't horrible but it was clearly not intended to be a piece of art that any director was going to take pride in. It was just clever marketing to make young teenage girls think it's cool, romantic, and trendy to be into these movies. It's like Hannah Montanna kind of. My little sister didn't even like her untill she realized how popular she was. Twilight's success is at least partly kind of working the same way. A big part of the reason so many girls are attracted the these guys in the first place is because they know so many other girls are attracted to them. The mere fact that these movies are popular is the cause of even more girls liking them. Last edited by A&W; 11-21-2009 at 12:23 PM.

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