Family grieves after crash kills 4, spares baby, in Alberta

[Paroxysm]

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/wor...tml?id=2253911

CALGARY -- One of the three teens killed in a crash outside Calgary that claimed four lives in total -- sparing only a six-month-old strapped in a car seat -- was remembered Sunday as a loving daughter and sister who hoped to become a child psychologist.

Cayley Maureen Chapman, 18, died following a collision near Nanton, Alta., on Saturday. She and two friends were driving on the highway when their car crossed the median and hit a vehicle coming in the opposite direction that was carrying a woman and a baby. The baby was the sole survivor of the crash.

To the person who invented car seats,

[The Battousai]

*waits for people to claim this was a miracle*

[[A]]

Funny *you* would say that, with a Doc Manhattan avvy

[Heretic]

It was a miracle!

Thank you Xenu!

[SuperFerret]

Two things, 1) why start this thread off on a confrontative note?; 2) what's wrong with calling this a miracle?

[The Battousai]

Originally Posted by SuperFerret

Two things, 1) why start this thread off on a confrontative note?; 2) what's wrong with calling this a miracle?

1. Someone was going to bring it up eventually - we all know that much.
2. Saying it's a miracle diminishes the fact that 4 people died - including the mother of the child.

[SuperFerret]

It's a miracle that the child survived and a tragedy that the others did not.

[bgates87]

Originally Posted by SuperFerret

Two things, 1) why start this thread off on a confrontative note?; 2) what's wrong with calling this a miracle?

1) Because some people have nothing better to do and 2) Because the term "miracle" implies the existence of a God which is simply not allowed.

[Addendum]

A piece of equipment (a car seat for an infant) that successfully performs what it was built to do (keep the infant strapped in safe) isn't a miracle

[SuperFerret]

Originally Posted by bgates87

1) Because some people have nothing better to do and 2) Because the term "miracle" implies the existence of a God which is simply not allowed.

Does it?

[bgates87]

Originally Posted by SuperFerret

Does it?

According to Websters a "Miracle" is "An extraordinary event manifesting divine intervention in human affairs," and "Divine" is "of, relating to, or proceeding directly from God or a god," so if you go by those definitions then yes. By the way I was being sarcastic about people not being allowed to express belief in a God, I don't have a problem with it. This is the same issue that came up with the stroller that fell down into the path of a subway car as well, and the discussion went the same direction.

[SuperFerret]

Yeah, but you need to realize that only in English class and the internet will words be required to adhere to a dictionary definition.

[bgates87]

Tell that to the people who think it's a crime to call this a miracle. If I didn't post the definitions, they would. As I said before, this is basically identical to the discussion we had last time this came up. I don't think there's anything wrong with calling this a miracle, many people use the word miracle just like the word amazing or extraordinary. Even if it was meant to imply divine intervention I wouldn't have a problem with that either because I can't prove there's not a God. They can't prove there is one either but that's not the point.

[Heretic]

Did God create Miracle Whip? I'm just curious...because it's darn tasty!

[Addendum]

No one here has "it's a crime to call this a miracle", just that a car seat keeping an infant safe isn't a miracle.