Episode 10: Burned Rate and Review Thread - Page 2

DarKush · 01-19-2013, 05:07 PM

Disappointed in this episode. I wish they had made more use of Firefly. I also didn't like how he went out. Ollie should've shot him in the arm or leg or something to stop the man from committing suicide.

I also am getting tired of Dig as Oliver's conscience. He's becoming a bit of a nanny and I would like to see him out in the action.

I though the Thea-Moira stuff was fine though. I'm also glad that Detective Lance hasn't completely forgotten about nabbing Arrow. Pretty sneaky that he's using his daughter to do it.

BlackMagicWolf · 01-19-2013, 05:58 PM

I thought this was a good episode, flashbacks were a little weak but it'll ramp up soon.

My only complaint was Firefly. I like this villain in the cartoons (Batman:TAS) and the comics, he has one of my favorite comic moments (he lit a bunch of people on fire at the same time and from the sky it looked like a bat symbol). But here he's just a throw-away villain. In my vision for the next Bat films he's one of the key villains. I wished they treated him with more respect.

Ryder · 01-19-2013, 07:12 PM

Who cares it wasnt really firefly anyway.

Firefly wears a bug suit and he flies.

BlackMagicWolf · 01-19-2013, 07:34 PM

He's a master of fire manipulation. If they had done it right they could've have some really cool moments. They the makings of a good Firefly representation with the terpentine spray and the fire grenades but they didn't go far enough. Instead of a genius arsonist he just an angry firefighter.

And for the record they could've made a really awesome looking bug suit. You never know.

vantheman77 · 01-19-2013, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryder

Who cares it wasnt really firefly anyway.

Firefly wears a bug suit and he flies.

If that's the case, it wasn't a good representation of him, but rather something to connect him within the context of the show.

Baramos · 01-19-2013, 11:26 PM

They should have made him Firebug instead of Firefly. Then no one could really complain about this representation.

Heck Firebug even has a tragic backstory, whereas Firefly is just an arsonist for hire.

Prison Mike · 01-20-2013, 12:28 PM

The way Firefly just killed himself was lame. There was hardly a fight between him and Arrow. I was disappointed in that.

SpiderMan'sBoot · 01-20-2013, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Mike

The way Firefly just killed himself was lame. There was hardly a fight between him and Arrow. I was disappointed in that.

Agree entirely. I wouldn't have minded if he killed himself after Arrow had him on the ropes but it was like they thought, oh crap we're nearly at the end of the script -insert quick self suicide here-

But ah well, you can't keep it at maximum every episode. Otherwise you wouldn't know which the best episodes are. I definitely think they're getting towards a winning formula.

BlackMagicWolf · 01-20-2013, 02:04 PM

I definitely wanted a better Firefly fight.

You see if they kept him alive and let him actually become Firefly they could've have an epic fight scene with the Flamethrower gun he uses and had Arrow shoot a shot right into the gun make it explode.

But he's dead so they can't do that. No respect for Firefly.

SpiderMan'sBoot · 01-20-2013, 02:51 PM

The other thing, Firefly had already got the better of Arrow first time they met. Why wouldn't he think he could take him again? He didn't seem the give up type, with all he's done to get revenge either.

Didn't fit the character they'd built up imo.

It's a shame as it was a decent episode, better climax would have made it a great episode.

ChukNoris · 01-20-2013, 04:59 PM

I expected a flamethrower for Firefly

Edit: Throughout the WHOLE episode

BH/HHH · 01-21-2013, 03:04 PM

First, Yes Arrows back!

Secondly, the flashback to Arrows beat down by Dark Archer, I actually forgot how badly he got beaten up, wow.

Thirdly, on with the episode: Oliver's confidence was down and for good reason, it was nice to see that, shows often skip over and ignore stuff but here they won't for it full throttle his confidence was really low. It was nice to see they went this route with him questioning himself rather than him not wanting to be the hero for selfish reasons.

Island flashbacks, oh yes, god I missed this show and these awesome flashbacks. Always nice to see Deathstroke. The parallels of a low on confidence Oliver and a shall we say rookie Oliver on the island was really well done.

Firefly, I love to see comic villains brought to life and we know that on this show we get grounded versions. I was not disappointed with Firefly. I felt they really did a well grounded version of his character and it they did him justice. I just wish they hadn't killed him off at the end.

Does Laurel suspect Oliver is Arrow? The way she looked at him when he confronted that firefighter, hmmm. I also have a feeling when she does find out it'll have something to do with that firefighters badge.

All in all a great episode to return on, it had repercussions from the previous episode that it delivered on and a great introduction to another DC Comics character, but it loses a point for been flat on action so 9/10.

The Guard · 01-22-2013, 04:14 PM

Firefly kinda sucked.

I was kinda hoping to see Firefly...you know, fly.

Maybe this was Firebug. Then it makes sense that he sucked.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 01-22-2013, 06:43 PM

Really enjoyed this episode, wasnt expecting much after the reviews in this thread but I really enjoyed it.

Firefly wasnt really the point of this episode, the point was Oliver getting his confidence back and needing other people to do it. The episode focused on that and it was a great journey for Arrow to go through, as anyone would suffer a loss of confidence after a beating like that.

Overall a really good episode and the high standards of the show are maintained for me. 8/10

riotgirl77 · 01-23-2013, 12:39 AM

My review for "Burned" is up at TV Ever After!

http://www.tveverafter.com/arrow-1-10-burned-review/

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01-19-2013, 05:07 PM	#26
DarKush Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,469	Re: Episode 10: Burned Rate and Review Thread Disappointed in this episode. I wish they had made more use of Firefly. I also didn't like how he went out. Ollie should've shot him in the arm or leg or something to stop the man from committing suicide. I also am getting tired of Dig as Oliver's conscience. He's becoming a bit of a nanny and I would like to see him out in the action. I though the Thea-Moira stuff was fine though. I'm also glad that Detective Lance hasn't completely forgotten about nabbing Arrow. Pretty sneaky that he's using his daughter to do it.

01-19-2013, 05:58 PM	#27
BlackMagicWolf He who is BlackMagic Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 134	Re: Episode 10: Burned Rate and Review Thread I thought this was a good episode, flashbacks were a little weak but it'll ramp up soon. My only complaint was Firefly. I like this villain in the cartoons (Batman:TAS) and the comics, he has one of my favorite comic moments (he lit a bunch of people on fire at the same time and from the sky it looked like a bat symbol). But here he's just a throw-away villain. In my vision for the next Bat films he's one of the key villains. I wished they treated him with more respect.

01-19-2013, 07:12 PM	#28
Ryder Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 55	Re: Episode 10: Burned Rate and Review Thread Who cares it wasnt really firefly anyway. Firefly wears a bug suit and he flies.

01-19-2013, 07:34 PM	#29
BlackMagicWolf He who is BlackMagic Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 134	Re: Episode 10: Burned Rate and Review Thread He's a master of fire manipulation. If they had done it right they could've have some really cool moments. They the makings of a good Firefly representation with the terpentine spray and the fire grenades but they didn't go far enough. Instead of a genius arsonist he just an angry firefighter. And for the record they could've made a really awesome looking bug suit. You never know.

01-19-2013, 11:26 PM	#31
Baramos Side-Kick Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 715	Re: Episode 10: Burned Rate and Review Thread They should have made him Firebug instead of Firefly. Then no one could really complain about this representation. Heck Firebug even has a tragic backstory, whereas Firefly is just an arsonist for hire.

01-20-2013, 12:28 PM	#32
Prison Mike Hype Award Winner Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The Clink Posts: 37,794	Re: Episode 10: Burned Rate and Review Thread The way Firefly just killed himself was lame. There was hardly a fight between him and Arrow. I was disappointed in that. __________________ Michael Scott: You don't call retarded people retards. It's bad taste. You call your friends retards when they're acting retarded.

01-20-2013, 02:04 PM	#34
BlackMagicWolf He who is BlackMagic Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 134	Re: Episode 10: Burned Rate and Review Thread I definitely wanted a better Firefly fight. You see if they kept him alive and let him actually become Firefly they could've have an epic fight scene with the Flamethrower gun he uses and had Arrow shoot a shot right into the gun make it explode. But he's dead so they can't do that. No respect for Firefly.

01-20-2013, 02:51 PM	#35
SpiderMan'sBoot Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 175	Re: Episode 10: Burned Rate and Review Thread The other thing, Firefly had already got the better of Arrow first time they met. Why wouldn't he think he could take him again? He didn't seem the give up type, with all he's done to get revenge either. Didn't fit the character they'd built up imo. It's a shame as it was a decent episode, better climax would have made it a great episode.

01-20-2013, 04:59 PM	#36
ChukNoris Experienced Bra Fitter Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Turn around Posts: 166	Re: Episode 10: Burned Rate and Review Thread I expected a flamethrower for Firefly Edit: Throughout the WHOLE episode

01-21-2013, 03:04 PM	#37
BH/HHH True Acklite Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Leeds Posts: 11,344	Re: Episode 10: Burned Rate and Review Thread First, Yes Arrows back! Secondly, the flashback to Arrows beat down by Dark Archer, I actually forgot how badly he got beaten up, wow. Thirdly, on with the episode: Oliver's confidence was down and for good reason, it was nice to see that, shows often skip over and ignore stuff but here they won't for it full throttle his confidence was really low. It was nice to see they went this route with him questioning himself rather than him not wanting to be the hero for selfish reasons. Island flashbacks, oh yes, god I missed this show and these awesome flashbacks. Always nice to see Deathstroke. The parallels of a low on confidence Oliver and a shall we say rookie Oliver on the island was really well done. Firefly, I love to see comic villains brought to life and we know that on this show we get grounded versions. I was not disappointed with Firefly. I felt they really did a well grounded version of his character and it they did him justice. I just wish they hadn't killed him off at the end. Does Laurel suspect Oliver is Arrow? The way she looked at him when he confronted that firefighter, hmmm. I also have a feeling when she does find out it'll have something to do with that firefighters badge. All in all a great episode to return on, it had repercussions from the previous episode that it delivered on and a great introduction to another DC Comics character, but it loses a point for been flat on action so 9/10. __________________ ARROW SKY 1 (UK) MONDAYS 8PM You will give the people an ideal to strive towards. They will race behind you, they will stumble, they will fall... But in time, they will join you in the sun... In time, you will help them accomplish wonders.

01-22-2013, 04:14 PM	#38
The Guard Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 23,119	Re: Episode 10: Burned Rate and Review Thread Firefly kinda sucked. I was kinda hoping to see Firefly...you know, fly. Maybe this was Firebug. Then it makes sense that he sucked. __________________ Writer and Lyricist of GOTHAM'S KNIGHT: THE BATMAN MUSICAL And if I'm right The future's looking bright A symbol in the skies at night

01-22-2013, 06:43 PM	#39
AVEITWITHJAMON Terminator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Liverpool, U.K Posts: 21,382	Re: Episode 10: Burned Rate and Review Thread Really enjoyed this episode, wasnt expecting much after the reviews in this thread but I really enjoyed it. Firefly wasnt really the point of this episode, the point was Oliver getting his confidence back and needing other people to do it. The episode focused on that and it was a great journey for Arrow to go through, as anyone would suffer a loss of confidence after a beating like that. Overall a really good episode and the high standards of the show are maintained for me. 8/10 __________________ 2013: 1)Django Unchained-9(2)Star Trek Into Darkness-9(3)Iron Man 3-9(4)Evil Dead-8(5)Oblivion-8(6)The Last Stand-7.5(7)Oz: The Great And Powerful-7.5(8)Jack The Giant Slayer-7.5

01-23-2013, 12:39 AM	#40
riotgirl77 TVEA C.D. & Writer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 1,126	Re: Episode 10: Burned Rate and Review Thread My review for "Burned" is up at TV Ever After! http://www.tveverafter.com/arrow-1-10-burned-review/ __________________ Check out The Americans and Arrow coverage on TV Ever After!

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