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Old 09-14-2017, 12:20 PM   #526
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Frankly, Obamacare was the first major step of changing the viewpoint. As Ryan and McConnell have found out, now that it is really settling in, they can't just go back to pre-ACA. So, they have to work the other direction.
And that is the brilliance of Obama. He realized this thing needs to be eased into. We have to move the ball a few yards at a time. It may not be as sexy as demanding complete European socialism now, but it's what works.

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Sometimes, democracy sucks. People are generally stupid in large groups and they're too lazy to do the research before making emotional judgements on something. Criminal justice is a huge example of this. As is the War on Drugs.
So what's your solution? Subvert democracy when the will of the people is inconvenient and not what you want? Maybe the answer is dialogue. Instead of Sanders writing off anyone who disagrees with him as "establishment lackies" while screaming and wagging the finger, the answer is simply dialogue. Speak to the opponents, understand their views, their goals, and their concerns. Rather than write them off as uneducated people acting on emotion, gain an understanding of why they are opposed to these plans and then work toward a middle ground. No one is going to get everything they want in a democracy. Consensus building requires compromise and a good compromise is when both sides are unhappy.

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Old 09-14-2017, 04:54 PM   #527
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Democracy was already not just subverted but ended in America with the gutting of the Voting Rights Act. This country is not democratic. And between voter suppression, gerrymandering, and their own incompetence, the Democratic Party is a dead institution. It's over.

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Old 09-16-2017, 04:05 PM   #528
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Jessica Biel, staunch Democrat, doing her part to empower the poor...by lying and stealing from them:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxne...oyees.amp.html

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Old 09-16-2017, 04:20 PM   #529
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Truly an important story dealing directly with the policy of the Democratic Party.

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Old 09-16-2017, 07:26 PM   #530
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Jessica Biel, staunch Democrat, doing her part to empower the poor...by lying and stealing from them:

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxne...oyees.amp.html
So this thread deals with any person in the U.S. who's registered as a Democrat now?

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So this thread deals with any person in the U.S. who's registered as a Democrat now?
Yeah my guess is she is a silent owner who probably has 0 clue what the hell that company is doing on a day to day basis. Wouldn't be that hard for me to find registered Republicans who own companies bad business practices, starting with Mr President

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Old 09-16-2017, 10:53 PM   #532
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Well, she needs to learn from Kathie Lee Gifford and make sure that when your name is attached, or on something what happens with that product reflects on you.

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Old 09-16-2017, 11:08 PM   #533
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Well, she needs to learn from Kathie Lee Gifford and make sure that when your name is attached, or on something what happens with that product reflects on you.
Still want to know what makes the situation germane to a discussion of the Democratic Party. It's pretty weak tea just because she's a registered Democrat to bring this up here in my view.

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So this thread deals with any person in the U.S. who's registered as a Democrat now?
She was a huge Hillary supporter. She's not the cat lady with 20 bumper stickers on her Prius two doors down. She's an influential elitist and mouthpiece of the left that apparently doesn't live by the ideals she's trying to enforce on everyone else. She played a big part in Hillary's campaign so of course this is relevant. Otherwise, I'm sure you've never scoffed at any Republican that isn't a policy maker in Washington riiiiiight? Call out the turds so people don't listen to them in 3 years.

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Jessica Biel influential?

Man, the 7th Heaven fandom must be much bigger than I thought, especially with it's own sex scandal.

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Deflection for a member of the flock...

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Still want to know what makes the situation germane to a discussion of the Democratic Party. It's pretty weak tea just because she's a registered Democrat to bring this up here in my view.
Well I'm sure you will get over it at some point in your life really the only one making a huge deal out of it is you who cares stupid **** is brought up in all of these threads at least once or twice a day .

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And Pelosi is facing backlash for negotiating with Trump on the Dream Act. Just got shouted out of her own press conference.

sigh

I wish these people knew what the current make up of Congress is, as well as who they need to actually sign the bill.

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And Pelosi is facing backlash for negotiating with Trump on the Dream Act. Just got shouted out of her own press conference.

sigh

I wish these people knew what the current make up of Congress is, as well as who they need to actually sign the bill.
THat's the Bernie Bros for you. No sense of pragmatism. Forget the fact that she is negotiating to save a program that will keep nearly a million people in the only home they have ever known. She is doing it with Trump and he is "teh evil establishment 1 %er!" This group really would cut off their nose to spite their face.

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Well I'm sure you will get over it at some point in your life really the only one making a huge deal out of it is you who cares stupid **** is brought up in all of these threads at least once or twice a day .
Reallly? Cuz... Anyone with eyes can see I wasn't the only poster that pointed this out on the page but you do you Kelly.

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Old 09-18-2017, 09:48 PM   #541
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Can anyone answer why Hollywood invited Sean Spicer to the Emmys? Is Kellyanne Conway or Jared Kushner going to get the kid gloves too when the Trump presidency is over?

Melissa McCarthy made him a laughingstock on SNL. She should be getting the limelight for playing him.

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