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View Poll Results: ¿What did you think of the Batsuit?
Love it!! Best Batsuit so far, even if we haven't seen it in color. 157 65.97%
It's good, need to see more to jude it. 63 26.47%
Meh. 16 6.72%
Don't like it. 2 0.84%
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Old 05-18-2014, 04:14 PM   #526
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This obviously isn't the logo. It's close though.
If it's close... it can't also be "obvious" that is isn't. It is reasonably close though, based on any objective measure of the original, and that's close enough. If instead you meant that it's obviously a manip and not a front on pic of the actual suit, well I knew that, obviously

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Old 05-18-2014, 08:48 PM   #527
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The only things I don't want to see in this movie taken from DKR is Superman as a government mule and a retired in ANY fashion.

Bruce was around 55 in DKR, I think had been retired for a few years prior. Affleck is only 41 and could easily play a 35 year old or less.

Just let Batman be Batman. No woman to make him "question his mission", no "my body can't take it for only less than a decade" crap.

A seasoned, in his prime Batman is exactly what needs to be shown.

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Old 05-18-2014, 08:52 PM   #528
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It was rather odd that Bruce clearly says in the Dark Knight that "Batman has no limits" yet it only takes Rachael's death for him to retire for almost a decade.

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It was rather odd that Bruce clearly says in the Dark Knight that "Batman has no limits" yet it only takes Rachael's death for him to retire for almost a decade.
It wasn't only rachels death at all. If you actually saw TDKR you'd have known there wasn't really a need for batman anymore in Gotham, after the death of dent and the passing of the dent act which put an end to the mob rule in gotham and created a huge drop in crime overall.

Bruce only wanted to be batman for as long as he was actually needed and at that time he wasn't, or more so he was still needed as a scapegoat for Harvey.

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It wasn't only rachels death at all. If you actually saw TDKR you'd have known there wasn't really a need for batman anymore in Gotham, after the death of dent and the passing of the dent act which put an end to the mob rule in gotham and created a huge drop in crime overall.

Bruce only wanted to be batman for as long as he was actually needed and at that time he wasn't, or more so he was still needed as a scapegoat for Harvey.
Just a few of the things that made me hate the Nolan trilogy.

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If only we had more villains in the trilogy

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Old 05-18-2014, 09:20 PM   #532
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It was rather odd that Bruce clearly says in the Dark Knight that "Batman has no limits" yet it only takes Rachael's death for him to retire for almost a decade.
one of worst batmans ever i really dont see what it's good about nolan movies (except Joker), batman would never disappear because of some girl dying, instead he would only come stronger and better with more motive to stop crime. god i hate it , i am glad we are getting reboot. batman needs some justice.

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It wasn't only rachels death at all. If you actually saw TDKR you'd have known there wasn't really a need for batman anymore in Gotham, after the death of dent and the passing of the dent act which put an end to the mob rule in gotham and created a huge drop in crime overall.

Bruce only wanted to be batman for as long as he was actually needed and at that time he wasn't, or more so he was still needed as a scapegoat for Harvey.
He was the only Batman that has ever actually won his crusade on crime.

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one of worst batmans ever i really dont see what it's good about nolan movies (except Joker), batman would never disappear because of some girl dying, instead he would only come stronger and better with more motive to stop crime. god i hate it , i am glad we are getting reboot. batman needs some justice.
Yeah, it does seem that way... but only if you insist on misreading everything in the movie.

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It wasn't only rachels death at all. If you actually saw TDKR you'd have known there wasn't really a need for batman anymore in Gotham, after the death of dent and the passing of the dent act which put an end to the mob rule in gotham and created a huge drop in crime overall.

Bruce only wanted to be batman for as long as he was actually needed and at that time he wasn't, or more so he was still needed as a scapegoat for Harvey.
Ugh.

Just...ugh.

Batman Begins was awesome, The Dark Knight was amazing, TDKR was a disappointment.

Oh well, 2/3 ain't bad.

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Old 05-18-2014, 09:27 PM   #536
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Just a few of the things that made me hate the Nolan trilogy.
I felt the same way about those decisions.. But I still like the first two movies of Nolan's trilogy..

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If only we had more villains in the trilogy
Ra's
Joker
Two-Face
Bane
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*Earle
Falcone
Maroni
*Chechen
*Lau
*Gamble
Zsasz
Talia

Is a pretty good list for three 2 1/2 films. It's also fun to note the few made-for-trilogy gangsters were pretty awesome, especially the Chechen, Earle and Lau.

Hell, we got damn great to expectations breaking renditions of Ra's, Joker, Scarecrow, and Two-Face in my opinion...

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I meant during the 8 years of his retirement.

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Outside of some minor TDKRises editing and flow issues I have, the only two things I'd fix in the trilogy are have more ramifications for Flass and have the Joker cameo (impossible, I know) in the 3rd film.

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MoS was nowhere near the TDK trilogy in terms of quality...and BvS has a LOT to prove. It's sad to see everyone already bashing the TDK trilogy, after just one picture of the new suit. If the suit was everything, TASM2 would be the best Spider-Man movie ever.

It's easy to forget that before the TDK trilogy, Batman and Robin is what we had.

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I'm sort of surprised no ones made a manip of the new Bat-Suit with the classic yellow oval Bat symbol.

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If it's close... it can't also be "obvious" that is isn't. It is reasonably close though, based on any objective measure of the original, and that's close enough. If instead you meant that it's obviously a manip and not a front on pic of the actual suit, well I knew that, obviously
Are you serious right now?

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True enough. But you know what I mean. Does the Arkham suit seem like a reasonable sort of design that you or I would BELIEVE could stand up to an assault from a god like alien? The bulk and clunkyness of the armor in TDKReturns is a visual clue that it's meant to take a pounding, because that is what Bruce is expecting from Superman's power level.
The thing is the armor Miller went with looked like it would render Batman so immobile that Superman's speed would make the fact it could take a hit moot. Plus it was the 80's, everything was big, now things are invented to be as sturdy and functional, but much less weighty and cumbersome.

At any rate I think the AK armor looks strong but still with enough give that it will allow Batman ease of movement.



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You make a good point. Batman with the armor in TDKR looked like an overgrown Lego Man to be quite frank. It has its charm no doubt but in live action? Not too sure.
I think the Miller armor would look like Stark's Mark I in live action.

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I'm sort of surprised no ones made a manip of the new Bat-Suit with the classic yellow oval Bat symbol.
I've seen a few, and I think they looked good, too.

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Outside of some minor TDKRises editing and flow issues I have, the only two things I'd fix in the trilogy are have more ramifications for Flass and have the Joker cameo (impossible, I know) in the 3rd film.
I thought you were going to talk about the ramifications of the lie. Both the promotional posters (bane standing in front of a mob, on the tumbler, etc) and the movie (bane giving people jobs under the city, bane trying to liberate the city, etc) at first show bane as this revolutionairy that is out to liberate people, he exposes the lie, and nobody cares. Because guess what, he's a villain and he's threatening everyone with a nuke. And he doesnt even care about that anyway because he just wants to torment the city until bruce gets his back fixed.

And then you think there would be some reconciliation between batman and the city, but nobody lives there. Nobody wants to fight for it. There's just the main cast and the police force. And then this lying rich guy and the police which is on his side storm the cathedral of capitalism and money that is Wall Street and kick the revolutionairies out.

I dont know what Nolan was trying to say with that.

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The thing is the armor Miller went with looked like it would render Batman so immobile that Superman's speed would make the fact it could take a hit moot. Plus it was the 80's, everything was big, now things are invented to be as sturdy and functional, but much less weighty and cumbersome.

At any rate I think the AK armor looks strong but still with enough give that it will allow Batman ease of movement.





I think the Miller armor would look like Stark's Mark I in live action.
I think that's Arkham Knight, an Azrael type villain. I am not sure.

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I think that's Arkham Knight, an Azrael type villain. I am not sure.
It is. HR knows. He's simply saying if they decide to go the armor route, something akin to that would be more fitting.

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Oh ok, my bad!

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Speaking for myself, i think the first thing batman should have is mystery. He should be a monster hiding in the shadows. He had that in Begins. Now i know all the explanations about the mob figuring him out so he didnt need to do that anymore, but the truth is Nolan did it because of all the flack he got for his action scenes in Begins which were a result of the suit's immobility.

Whatever the in universe explanations, i dont think Batman should look tacticool anymore than Ironman should be in spandex. At the end of the day, batman is figured out in comics too, but he still continues his sharade despite everything. He's batman.
I recall there was word that Nolan would have preferred a different suit in begins. But was restricted by time. Therefore I don't think the complaints about the fight cinematography was the reason for change.

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Exactly- that's why it needs to be proven to be useless against Superman. If you didn't anticipate the extent of Superman's powers, dressing up in a bat-eared bomb-disposal suit to face him might seem like a good idea; but Batman, being a perceptive individual, should quickly realise the flaws in that plan.
Yeah... I'm not thrilled baout the rumours of a second "anti-Superman" suit.

On the one hand, I think Snyder is exactly the sort of guy who would have Superman and Batman have a fistfight... But on the other hand, he must be conscious of the fact that no level of armour is going to save Batman from the level of power depicted in Man of Steel.

That being so, I have to believe he has some trick up his sleeve for how this conflict plays out. Or, at least, I hope he does.

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