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Old 03-17-2017, 03:06 AM   #1
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Sony has just announced a Venom movie:

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2017/03/1...-spinoff-movie

Lets discuss it.......

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Old 03-17-2017, 11:13 AM   #2
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It's going to be a major catastrophe.

Avi Arad strikes again.

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Old 03-17-2017, 10:13 PM   #3
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Old 03-18-2017, 12:43 PM   #4
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Sony should've booted Arad from the Spider-Man franchise completely. Avi taints everything he touches.

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Old 03-18-2017, 01:22 PM   #5
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I don't understand why Sony is even allowing him near anything regarding Spider-Man related productions

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If they can do it R, good or bad, sure.
If not, frick' off.

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Old 03-18-2017, 04:37 PM   #7
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If they can do it R, good or bad, sure.
If not, frick' off.
Sony is clearly gonna try to jump the bandwagon due to Deadpool and Logan.

It's so weirdly but conveniently timed, ain't it?

"Let's just get our Venom movie going out of nowhere! We won't post pre production news or give people a heads up! But let's get it going this time and get an R Rating! Why? Because it's the thing to do now! We will be successful by getting an R rating and get the fans back!"

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Sony is clearly gonna try to jump the bandwagon due to Deadpool and Logan.
It's the rating they should be pushing for that Valiant universe they supposedly plan on doing. I can only imagine they're making sure this is a test run for that.

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It's the rating they should be pushing for that Valiant universe they supposedly plan on doing. I can only imagine they're making sure this is a test run for that.
Well they better hope they get this right. That's all I can say.

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Sony is clearly gonna try to jump the bandwagon due to Deadpool and Logan.
If that's really the reason why, then talk about stupid! Because the idiot currently in charge at Sony is the same idiot who tried to block Deadpool from being made back when he was in charge at Fox.

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Old 03-19-2017, 12:52 AM   #11
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If that's really the reason why, then talk about stupid! Because the idiot currently in charge at Sony is the same idiot who tried to block Deadpool from being made back when he was in charge at Fox.
Oh how karma has come full circle!
Now he wants to cash in on the Rated R cow!

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If Sony goes with an R, I hope Sony will do something similar to a very general sort of idea I had a while back including the vault, Jury, and 5 symbiotes on this thread: http://forums.superherohype.com/show...=#post34683209

Perhaps there are much better angles they'll take.

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Old 03-27-2017, 11:26 AM   #13
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this reeks of Rothman...

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Old 03-27-2017, 04:03 PM   #14
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I just don't get what it would be? Would it be set years later where Eddie Brock (assuming they go with Eddie Brock) is already Venom and has a past history with Spider-Man? Or would it be a Catwoman deal where it's unconnected (well mainly)? Just seems strange, cause I take it they can't use Spider-Man.

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Spider-Man is their property so they can use him if need be.

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Serious question, do you really think Sony would use Spider-Man if Marvel wasn't on board with having another Spider-Man on the screen? And when I say Spider-Man I'm talking Peter Parker....Would love to hear your answer and how you don't think it would undermine the relationship they just forged with Feige & co.

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I admit I don't know the ins and outs of the Sony/Disney deal on that one. But you'd have to think that Disney wouldn't want two versions of a Peter Parker Spider-Man out there or even there Spider-Man appearing on non Disney/MCU movies. There must be some clause in the contract preventing either of those scenarios.

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Old 03-27-2017, 04:54 PM   #18
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Why can't they use Tom Holland? They still have the rights to sm just sharing him with marvel. Marvel might not have any input in a venom movie but that shouldn't rule tom having a role.

Hovefully brock will appear in sm homecoming as a small role. That would put peoples fears at rest.

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Why can't they use Tom Holland? They still have the rights to sm just sharing him with marvel. Marvel might not have any input in a venom movie but that shouldn't rule tom having a role.

Hovefully brock will appear in sm homecoming as a small role. That would put peoples fears at rest.
Well I assume Tom Holland is contracted to Disney/Marvel not Sony so there's that.

I think only way he appears is if Disney/Marvel allow it. I think if they had him at the start for like an intro thing to set up who a Venom is etc that would be cool.

Actually thinking they might not need him to do some flashbacks, just have someone in the Spider-Man costume, both black and original to set the story up.

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I admit I don't know the ins and outs of the Sony/Disney deal on that one. But you'd have to think that Disney wouldn't want two versions of a Peter Parker Spider-Man out there or even there Spider-Man appearing on non Disney/MCU movies. There must be some clause in the contract preventing either of those scenarios.
The two Quicksilvers were agreed on by Marvel and Fox, and if there's anything, Marvel and Sony are on better terms than Marvel/Fox nowadays so I don't see it being an issue. Sony is also releasing their own animated film with Miles.

If Sony's Spider-Man would be a mere cameo to set up Venom properly, it'd probably be fine.

Who really knows, though? I'm just going off the narrative that Sony, specifically Arad and Tolmach who hold Spidey near and dear, wouldn't be so foolish not to have a Venom with no connection to (a) Spider-Man whatsoever.

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Sony is going to kick off a Venom film with some Joe Shmoe in a costume....That might get a pass from Marvel, but I'd bet they'd still be against it. I'm sure the 'fans' would love it too considering that in just 10 minutes of CW we got the most popular on-screen incarnation of Peter/Spidey to date, so the question would be why can't they do the same here. Because it's not part of the MCU and Marvel has no creative control so will not allow some rogue outfit to be a part of their carefully constructed film universe.

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Old 03-28-2017, 02:07 AM   #22
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Perhaps Marvel is working with Sony on this to a degree... (Aquaman pushed themselves back from Venom slot is interesting but probably not related).

Most likely will be different timelines or something. I'm guessing they'll just allude to Spiderman (bring in more audience perhaps) and let fans speculate perhaps how connects to the current MCU version or not if they're inclined to then maybe in sequel answering some of these questions more concretely (perhaps a future spiderman like 2099 or something saying based on an original or something like that to keep things separate).

Who knows though... Will be interesting to find out more.

Edit: Is confusing how Sony is making a SilverSable/Black Cat movie too. First glance that seems like a tougher sell but 2nd glance those characters at least may be seen as totally separate characters (perhaps not Black Cat but Silver Sable did have own comic series for a time). A teamup though seems be referencing Spiderman even more though but interesting learn more on this as well.

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Sony is going to kick off a Venom film with some Joe Shmoe in a costume....That might get a pass from Marvel, but I'd bet they'd still be against it. I'm sure the 'fans' would love it too considering that in just 10 minutes of CW we got the most popular on-screen incarnation of Peter/Spidey to date, so the question would be why can't they do the same here. Because it's not part of the MCU and Marvel has no creative control so will not allow some rogue outfit to be a part of their carefully constructed film universe.
That's debatable, I would argue that Maguire's Spider-Man is still the most popular of the three.

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Serious question, do you really think Sony would use Spider-Man if Marvel wasn't on board with having another Spider-Man on the screen? And when I say Spider-Man I'm talking Peter Parker....Would love to hear your answer and how you don't think it would undermine the relationship they just forged with Feige & co.
Sony is now in the hands of Tom Rothman - the guy who screwed up the FF at Fox - and I don't think he cares about the relationship with Marvel that was forged by his predecessor...

Also the deal with Marvel allows Marvel use Spider-Man in some of their movie and gives access of Marvel characters to Sony [Iron Man in SM:HC] - I don't think Sony needs Marvel's permission to use Spider-Man how they see fit - Sony does own the rights after all...

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Oh he cares about the relationship, don't kid yourself, that relationship is the salvation of this studio at this point. The CEO of Sony acknowledged they made a mistake in selling the licensing rights to the character, so Tom won't last long if he alienates this new anticipated relationship with Marvel for some cockeyed universe that no fan really wants in the current framework they have chosen to operate in.

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