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Old 03-19-2017, 02:39 AM   #726
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Maul apparently forgot Obi Wan saw him do that move on Naboo,not a move he'd forget in any hurry.

My apologies to @Asharad,your post was quite correct.

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Old 03-19-2017, 03:35 AM   #727
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Well it was like 30 years and Obi-Wan did switch to Qui-Gon's stance.

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Old 03-19-2017, 03:43 AM   #728
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Well it was like 30 years and Obi-Wan did switch to Qui-Gon's stance.
Obi Wan is clearly the better student of all battles he's seen.

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Old 03-19-2017, 04:36 AM   #729
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He's such a tragic character, ultimately. As much a victim of Palpatine and the Sith as anyone. I have to give Filoni and his team major kudos for making such an interesting, conflicted character out of what was a complete non-entity originally. From a storytelling perspective, he was redeemed after being wasted by Lucas.

I actually kind of loved how abrupt the fight was. It serviced multiple things. How experienced and skilled Kenobi had become vs. how destitute Maul had gotten. I don't think Ben wanted to end him at all, but when Maul implicitly mentions Luke he knew he had to take him out. So it has this air of complete finality. On some level, Maul probably wanted to die. I feel like a long, "epic" fight would've been fanboy pandering. I'll take restraint, emotion, and character any day over the CG gymnastic clownshows in the (latter two) prequels.
There was very much a Last Temptation of Christ feel with the character wandering through the desert and struggling with doubt. In this case Maul was both Christ and Satan (in the case of Ezra's journey). He was beaten as much by the desert and himself as he was by Obi-Wan, and there was a certain exhaustion to the character that definitely gave me the vibe that he wanted to die, suicide by Kenobi as it were.

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Old 03-19-2017, 07:07 AM   #730
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The fight needed to be just a tiny bit longer, problem was we are used to saber fights that take more then 3 hits so it was abit anticlimactic.

Even more so when you think of the hype they built up teasing this fight.

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Old 03-19-2017, 10:24 AM   #731
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The fight needed to be just a tiny bit longer, problem was we are used to saber fights that take more then 3 hits so it was abit anticlimactic.

Even more so when you think of the hype they built up teasing this fight.
You just described why subverting expectations is not a bad thing at all.

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Old 03-19-2017, 12:58 PM   #732
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You just described why subverting expectations is not a bad thing at all.
Not really, they hyped it up in a big way and it was obviously to get fans excited and when the fight only lasts 3 seconds you probably can expect some fans who may feel abit cheated.

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Old 03-19-2017, 01:08 PM   #733
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Not really, they hyped it up in a big way and it was obviously to get fans excited and when the fight only lasts 3 seconds you probably can expect some fans who may feel abit cheated.
They have fought numerous times. They never got close to topping the first fight. There was nothing else to be said in a longer duel that wasn't said with what happened in this episode. This was not Vader/Ahsoka, which had a lot more to say, for both those characters and Ezra.

Obi-Wan has been pass Maul for years. He "conquered" him when he didn't turn to the dark side when he took his love. Maul failed to break him. Maul was the one trapped in time. There wasn't even a reason to try to kill Obi-Wan outside of his own pettiness.

Also Kenobi's great. A lot better then Maul at this point. Maul looks good when among a bunch of wannabes and lesser trained warriors. But in the realm of Vader, Obi-Wan, and Palpatine, he's small fries. Another reason why Luke is so impressive.

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Old 03-19-2017, 01:22 PM   #734
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They should have gone with the Vader v Maul storyline. We've already seen Kenobi v Maul, twice, once in TPM, and the other in season 4 of the Clone Wars.
Star Wars has GOT to push the envelope forward at some point. Show NEW things, stop this endless nostalgia with the original series. Even diehard fans like me are starting to get bored.

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Old 03-19-2017, 01:54 PM   #735
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They should have gone with the Vader v Maul storyline. We've already seen Kenobi v Maul, twice, once in TPM, and the other in season 4 of the Clone Wars.
Star Wars has GOT to push the envelope forward at some point. Show NEW things, stop this endless nostalgia with the original series. Even diehard fans like me are starting to get bored.
Yeah, because Maul getting finish by Ben wasn't something a crap ton of fans wanted.... right. I wanted Vader/Maul or Maul/Emperor, but this did just fine. My brother was rather happy last night and he isn't near the fan I am. But then again, I am a pretty big fan.

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Old 03-19-2017, 03:39 PM   #736
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Loved it. It was the perfect ending for him.

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Old 03-19-2017, 03:52 PM   #737
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I remember posting something who should be the final battle for Maul. Kanan who Maul blinded. Vader who took Maul's place. Ezra, his apprentice. But in the end, I think this was the perfect way for him to end it. And I approve of the short fight scene.

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Old 03-19-2017, 05:14 PM   #738
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People are so nit picky, they don't even get it when they get something really good. I've watched it twice now, and it really was a fitting end for the character.

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Old 03-19-2017, 11:53 PM   #739
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There was very much a Last Temptation of Christ feel with the character wandering through the desert and struggling with doubt. In this case Maul was both Christ and Satan (in the case of Ezra's journey). He was beaten as much by the desert and himself as he was by Obi-Wan, and there was a certain exhaustion to the character that definitely gave me the vibe that he wanted to die, suicide by Kenobi as it were.
That's exactly the vibe I got as well. Either way, Maul knew this was an endpoint of some kind. And not the grandiose death of a mighty warrior. He was at the end of his rope with nothing else except his hate. Already beaten. Ben swiftly put him down as you would a rabid dog after it mauls attacks someone.

Where Ezra goes from here is kind of up in the air now. I know a lot of people had assumed he would go dark under Maul's tutelage but now that won't happen. He could still turn but it seems less likely now.

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Old 03-20-2017, 01:41 AM   #740
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Watch the video OnTheAir posted and you'll see the reason for the fight being short, and why it ultimately was the right call.
I watched it. It does make sense in retrospect. I also didn't watch The Clone Wars so until I viewed the other videos, I hadn't seen their fights prior. I just expected it to be longer with all the hyping Star Wars did on social media.

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Just got around to watching this episode.

It's final moments are a true standout for both the SW franchise but for animated programming out there today as well. It ended as it should have. Any nitpicks about Ezra's character development aside, this was well done all around. Loved the way Tattooine looked. Yeah, I know, it's a freaking desert but I thought they presented the bleakness of a such a sparse wilderness well. The voice actor for Kenobi was simply amazing. The evocation of Sir Alec was eerie at times. I definitely got chills watching it. Shout out again to Sam Witwer. He always delivers.

Now... Next few episodes can we get Kanan back in action? The Bendu as well?

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Glad this plot point was dealt the way it was. While Ashoka kind of was too, i honestly had hoped for a little bit more interaction between her and Vader, considering Anakin had probably felt he had done wrong for her during the Clone Wars. That and the fact the her fate was left in a way that still makes it uncertain if she realy died.

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He should be 15-16ish. girls grow faster. They made a mistake? Though we don't know how old he is suppose to be there.

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They made a mistake.

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They made a mistake.
How do you know how big he is suppose to be?

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Going by the trivia from the episode guide, they actually just used Ezra's model and darkened it, because he's the same age.

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How do you know how big he is suppose to be?
He was a little short for a Stormtrooper....

I loved the ending. Especially when Maul spoke of "his purpose" and Obi-wan's demeanor changed. Just knew it was end game and old Ben wasn't going to let Maul get away with that kind of info.

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I'm sorry but them standing on the outside of ships in space is never not going to look goofy to me.

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