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Old 05-15-2013, 02:26 PM   #876
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Don't worry everyone! Damon Lindelof (the writer of the dreadful Prometheus) has the answer:

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THR: If Warner Bros called and asked you to help solve their Justice League problem, would you take that call?

Lindelof: The Justice League problem? I think a lot of that depends on Man of Steel. The Justice League problem is not a problem of, who is the bad guy that Wonder Woman and Green Lantern, Superman, whoever you decide to pit them against. The problem is: What’s the tone of that movie? They’ve been struggling with launching their own tone. The tone of Green Lantern is very different from the tone of The Dark Knight. They clearly inhabit two entirely different worlds. You want to feel like someone is establishing a world where the Justice League can exist, maybe Man of Steel is that movie. If Man of Steel works, and it’s great, I think it starts to make sense where Paradise Island is in that world. Because that’s an entirely different world than the one Christopher Nolan introduced.
The tone of Green Lantern was to much like Batman & Robin where as MOS is very similar to the TDKT.


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It isn't similar to TDKT. It looks like a mix between TDKT's tone, Iron Man's tone, the '78 Superman's tone, and Avengers' tone. Basically a mix of all tones.

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It isn't similar to TDKT. It looks like a mix between TDKT's tone, Iron Man's tone, the '78 Superman's tone, and Avengers' tone. Basically a mix of all tones.
Superman: The Movie seemed much brighter.

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Oh damn! Just found out Dark Knight was banned.

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Im actually annoyed right now, he was one of my favorite posters.

As for the tone? MOS has TDKT and a mix of other sci-fi films. Sci-fi that's a little bit more serious than Avengers. Superman: The Movie? I don't think so.

It's hard to put my finger on what specific sci-fi movies though.

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Green Lantern has more in common with Superman Returns, while The Dark Knight Trilogy seems to be on the same level as Man Of Steel.

Maybe it could be interesting to see them move forward with 2 different teams, have one team based with the GL & SR versions, and then one with the TDKT & MOS versions.

A more mature version to make the more mature audiences happy, and a more.......child friendly version

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Yeah, GL definitely has the Superman Returns vibe.

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Reynolds' GL from one universe, Cavill's Superman from the Snyderverse, and Bale's Batman from the Nolanverse.

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Oldman is pure gold in the role and one of the best actors of all time. But if there was one man who can match or perhaps top Gary, it's Bryan Cranston.

Im much more excited for Bale to return but if I heard it was rebooted and the cast included Cranston I would be jumping for joy. Breaking Bad's my favorite tv series.
Oldman's portrayal was great.

But was it me, or did he come of as too much of the nice nervous type?
He was tough, but he seemed liked the weakling who proved himself imo.

Cranston would certainly portray a more hard assed Gordon. Just as stern as Batman. Who smokes his cigars, and doesn't give a **** about lung cancer

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The tone of Green Lantern was to much like Batman & Robin where as MOS is very similar to the TDKT.
That's not correct. The tone of Green Lantern was similar to Iron Man. Batman and robin was rife with camp closer to the TV series of the same name.

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GL tone was definitely Iron Man/slash Spider-Man 3

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Yeah he definitely had the nervous vibe.

Cranston could do the same thing and nail it (early seasons of Breaking Bad) OR to go in the directions Great Mind(s) wants...meaning, something different. They can go the Year One Gordon route all the way, where Cranston plays the tough, take no **** Commissioner just like these later seasons of Breaking Bad..but with that goodness always at the forefront obviously. Which Bryan voiced well in the adaptation.

Haha ya Rodrigo, screw that lung cancer.

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Green Lantern has more in common with Superman Returns, while The Dark Knight Trilogy seems to be on the same level as Man Of Steel.

Maybe it could be interesting to see them move forward with 2 different teams, have one team based with the GL & SR versions, and then one with the TDKT & MOS versions.

A more mature version to make the more mature audiences happy, and a more.......child friendly version
I kind of disagree. Hal Jordan didn't have an illegitimate child and there was arguably more action in Superman Returns than in Green Lantern (you didn't see the latter rescuing a 777 from a downward spiral). Jeff Robinov and the Warners know what tone they want to have with their films going forward and that is a dark one. What's going to wind up happening is that they are going to announce Snyder as the director once "Man of Steel" is successful at the box office. His experience with films like "300" and "Watchmen" proves that he can make a film with great action sequences and a dark tone.

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I tend to view Lindelof as a good ideas man, but he's not really a good finisher. His stories have good to great set-ups, but somehow can't nail a good ending. At least his views about the worldws of TDKT and MOS are the same as mine

That's the thing I was concerned for all along. TDKT was very rigid in its "no superpowers" policy. While MOS shows us the ultimate fantasy character which I hope will break the rules wide open for absolutely anything. Because if you think about it the concept of JL has to be in a fantastical setting. Tonally, it can be the same as TDKT, if that means the drama aspects of the movie. But in terms of the rules of the universe where sci-fi and supernatural aspects exist then I hope its pretty much anything goes.

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Yeah he definitely had the nervous vibe.

Cranston could do the same thing and nail it (early seasons of Breaking Bad) OR to go in the directions Great Mind(s) wants...meaning, something different. They can go the Year One Gordon route all the way, where Cranston plays the tough, take no **** Commissioner just like these later seasons of Breaking Bad..but with that goodness always at the forefront obviously. Which Bryan voiced well in the adaptation.

Haha ya Rodrigo, screw that lung cancer.
Cranston should do a Oldman of his own and portray him the way he was as Hal in MITM

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The man responsible for season 6 of Lost and Prometheus has no reason to give anyone advice on writing. He should stay away from this genre. Far away.
Yes let's also stay away from the universe GL introduced. And we know Goyer thought it sucked and at the same time can't think of anyone but Bale as Batman. So obviously he would continue to use the GL universe (bring back Reynolds) and ignore the Bale-Bat universe right? Makes perfect sense to me.


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I actually loved season 6 of LOST! Haters can hate. I loved the entire series as well as the ending.

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The man responsible for season 6 of Lost and Prometheus has no reason to give anyone advice on writing. He should stay away from this genre. Far away.
Yes let's also stay away from the universe GL introduced. And we know Goyer thought it sucked and at the same time can't think of anyone but Bale as Batman. So obviously he would continue to use the GL universe (bring back Reynolds) and ignore the Bale-Bat universe right? Makes perfect sense to me.
Yeah, I'm not even sure why an interviewer would pose that question to him?

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It's like asking Mr. Bean what he thinks about Government politics!

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Yeah, I'm not even sure why an interviewer would pose that question to him?
I can guess why. He's extremely polarizing in the fanboy world. Add one of the most bizarre and difficult film production controversies in recent memory and you are guaranteed to get your interview all over the genre sites.

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Yes let's also stay away from the universe GL introduced. And we know Goyer thought it sucked and at the same time can't think of anyone but Bale as Batman. So obviously he would continue to use the GL universe (bring back Reynolds) and ignore the Bale-Bat universe right? Makes perfect sense to me.
Yeah that would be stupid.

You don't keep Reynolds and ALSO introduce a new Batman. Stupid move. If you're bringing Reynolds back, that should be because you already have Bale locked in, and you want to keep all the past films in continuity with big star power.

If Batman is rebooted, then GL needs to be rebooted as well.

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The man responsible for season 6 of Lost and Prometheus has no reason to give anyone advice on writing. He should stay away from this genre. Far away.
Yes let's also stay away from the universe GL introduced. And we know Goyer thought it sucked and at the same time can't think of anyone but Bale as Batman. So obviously he would continue to use the GL universe (bring back Reynolds) and ignore the Bale-Bat universe right? Makes perfect sense to me.
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Yeah, I'm not even sure why an interviewer would pose that question to him?
I want to believe that the interviewer, Marc Bernardin, is a fan of the TV series "Lost", and since it dealt with an ensemble cast (as will Justice League), he felt that it would be appropriate to ask how he would adapt "Justice League". It just came off as a surprise that he posed it as a problem that needed solving. As for the tone of the film, like I said be fore, the WB under Robinov's watch has been pushing for more films that are darker in tone. "Green Lantern" had a dark setting, but was not as dark as the Nolan Batman films. This was because market research found that the character was more appealing to young boys between the ages of 6-12 had a strong knowledge of the character and found him to be very likeable.

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Green Lantern is definitely being rebooted. There is no doubt about it. Man of Steel is supposed to be mankind's first contact with aliens but the events in Green Lantern were also mankind's first contact with aliens. The two movies contradict each other. Literally only a miracle will bring Reynolds back at this point, if even that.

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Yeah that would be stupid.

You don't keep Reynolds and ALSO introduce a new Batman. Stupid move. If you're bringing Reynolds back, that should be because you already have Bale locked in, and you want to keep all the past films in continuity with big star power.

If Batman is rebooted, then GL needs to be rebooted as well.
Let Mr. Reynolds be a Marvel actor (Deadpool).

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Let Mr. Reynolds be a Marvel actor (Deadpool).
and bring in Pine to take over as Mr. Jordan and Nathan Fillion as Mr. Scott (pre-New 52 version)

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Green Lantern is definitely being rebooted. There is no doubt about it. Man of Steel is supposed to be mankind's first contact with aliens but the events in Green Lantern were also mankind's first contact with aliens. The two movies contradict each other. Literally only a miracle will bring Reynolds back at this point, if even that.

Also, I want to share this here since people were comparing TDKT with MOS:


Wrote that myself a few days ago.
It is left to be seen if Man of Steel is atually a first contact film. There are rumors that there were other aliens (like Martian Manhunter). Green Lantern 2 may turn out to be a soft reboot.

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