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Old 08-21-2009, 01:22 PM   #2576
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Yeah, I'm all about your right to bear arms, but it's not like Obama and the UN are coming to TAKE their guns at the rally.

I can understand the guy with a pistol, cause he probably takes it with him everywhere. But I highly doubt the other guy with the rifle does. He was easily crossing the line.
Actually apparently the black guy with the assault rifle DOES take it everywhere with him.

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Old 08-21-2009, 01:37 PM   #2577
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This incorrect line of thinking is exactly what is going to benefit conservatives.

"Incorrect"? What is so incorrect about my line of thinking. If the gun was in the other hand, as stated, FOX would be raving about Terroristic Threats.

You can't pick and choose which President get's certain protections. And for a news channel that keeps telling people 'It's within your rights" to bring weapons to peaceful political meetings, regardless of the legal stipulations, basic common sense should tell you not to do it. And this isn't Comedy Central, it's a network that labels itself a news channel. Shame on them.

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So I guess what I heard about black guys is just a stereotype

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Old 08-21-2009, 02:12 PM   #2579
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Blaming Fox for anti-Obama sentiment is obviously ridiculous.
I guess I phrased that wrong. I'm not blaming them for creating an anti-Obama sentiment, that would exist regardless of what news corp said what. I would, however, say that FOX is fueling the fire. And if not FOX commentators like Glenn Beck certainly do. He's a sensationalist.

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Old 08-21-2009, 02:15 PM   #2580
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If Glenn Beck believes Obama is bad for the country, he has a duty to fuel anti-Obama sentiments. Just like when Olbermann called Bush a fascist and telling him to "shut the hell up". It goes on both sides.

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That's where the first amendment comes in. Beck is doing what he believes is his duty as an American, unfortunately the people bringing assault rifles to protests are eventually going to get someone hurt. I believe that every American should have a right to have and keep a weapon, however I'm afraid bringing weapons to protests will cause hysteria. This is a slippery slope and I think the left and the right need to find a balance and quick.

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I don't get why people bring guns to protest the healthcare bill. What does the second amendment have to do with healthcare?
It's posing and hoping for trouble. They are hoping something will come of it so they can go crying that Obama and the Democrats are trampling their second amendment rights.

I really hope that some pro-healthcare people start showing up with guns aswell. I'm starting to think it's time to buy my first gun for this reason.

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Conservatives just want to kill everything that moves, don't they?
I really doubt that Ann Coulter is that conservative. I think it's all an act to get attention and as the Boondocks says get all that redneck money.

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Thanks for posting that, I think people need to be reminded of that when it comes to this current mindset.

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I don't think the current "mindset" of 99.99999999% of the people in these town halls is anywhere near that.....


And people talk about fear mongering??????

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I don't think the current "mindset" of 99.99999999% of the people in these town halls is anywhere near that.....


And people talk about fear mongering??????

Oh please, thats hardly fear mongering. What Glen Beck does, Rush Limbaugh, thats fear mongering. And who cares if a majority of the crowds are level headed (or as you say 99.999999% of them)? It only takes one crazy person to do something terrible. And guess what, if they do, its going to be because they think he's a facist, socialist, foreigner who wants to destroy this country from the inside out. I wonder where they got that idea?

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Old 08-22-2009, 06:06 PM   #2587
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Even the people that wanted to talk to her I'm sure she can find time out of her 'busy' schedule to make a few phone calls a day.
Yep... Because senators don't work... they have all this spare time to sit around hamming it up with constituents on the phone... some of whom probably can't locate Missouri on a map let alone have any idea what they're talking about when it comes to health care...

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Oh please, thats hardly fear mongering. What Glen Beck does, Rush Limbaugh, thats fear mongering. And who cares if a majority of the crowds are level headed (or as you say 99.999999% of them)? It only takes one crazy person to do something terrible. And guess what, if they do, its going to be because they think he's a facist, socialist, foreigner who wants to destroy this country from the inside out. I wonder where they got that idea?
You can say that with any issue.....

I think its wrong to judge a group of people by one or two.....

BTW, I've called Beck and Rush on that same thing....

Who is "they" the 5 people carrying the swastika signs and the guy with the guy....or the 1,000's of others that are simply letting their thoughts be known? which "they" are you talking about.....

Do I judge the Islamic religion by their fringe, no......and this type of judgment is just as ignorant, IMO.

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I wasn't trying to lump all conservatives together, sorry it came off that way. They "they" I was referring to was the fringe elements, not all Republicans. So don't call me ignorant.

However, saying that it was 5 out of 1000 is a bit off though. While this group is fringe, its by no means small.

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I wasn't trying to lump all conservatives together, sorry it came off that way. They "they" I was referring to was the fringe elements, not all Republicans. So don't call me ignorant.

However, saying that it was 5 out of 1000 is a bit off though. While this group is fringe, its by no means small.
I did not call you ignorant, I said that judgment of that nature is ignorant.

Give me a number then....

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No one is calling anyone ignorant. I would just be very careful about lumping everyone together because of the actions of a few idiots.

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Unfortunately it's not a few. How many Militia member are there in the US? Because that's the kooks.




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If Glenn Beck believes Obama is bad for the country, he has a duty to fuel anti-Obama sentiments.
A duty?

Who put Beck in charge of the anti-Obama brigade?

LIke I said, he should be on Comedy Central, not FOX "News."

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I think you have to have at least a semblance of a Beck on TV, maybe not as crazy as he is....but a voice.....simply to counter the "I feel a tingle up my leg when he speaks (Obama)" loving media.....I just see them countering each other. Beck has good and bad shows, they all do....its just that Beck comes off as "bat****" crazy.....

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I like how those who defend Beck and yellow journalism (on both sides) hide behind basic rhetoric about free speech. No one is saying he doesn't have the right to free speech. But we can critically view him as a charleton and a hypocrite who spews half-truths or bold faced lies to appeal to his viewers in the name of entertainment and supplant false ideas in the heads of the faithful who believe what he says because he is on a channel with News in the title. And we can observe that his dangerous rhetoric and those like him have increased a violent and divisive tone in this country.

Sure he has the right to say what he wants. But he can be openly criticized for lying and fanning the flames of hatred along partisan and cultural lines. And to point that out is not being "ridiculous" at all.

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I like how those who defend Beck and yellow journalism (on both sides) hide behind basic rhetoric about free speech. No one is saying he doesn't have the right to free speech. But we can critically view him as a charleton and a hypocrite who spews half-truths or bold faced lies to appeal to his viewers in the name of entertainment and supplant false ideas in the heads of the faithful who believe what he says because he is on a channel with News in the title. And we can observe that his dangerous rhetoric and those like it has increased a violent and divisive tone in this country.

Sure he has the right to say what he wants. But he can be openly criticized for lying and fanning the flames of hatred along partisan and cultural lines. And to point that out is not being "ridiculous" at all.
Yeah, cause so many here have said that viewing him critically wasn't allowed, and we haven't allowed a thread to do just that. yeah....

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Some have said criticizing Fox News for perpetuating an anti-Obama tone is ridiculous. They have the right to, but it is not ridiculous to criticize a news network for stirring the pot to dangerous levels.

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Needless to say, Beck has apparently faltered big time on this issue--and I suspect there will be long-lasting implications on his career.

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Actually, I think time will tell in that matter. We shall see.....

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Needless to say, Beck has apparently faltered big time on this issue--and I suspect there will be long-lasting implications on his career.
Beck is more popular today than he ever was before. So we shall se.

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Some have said criticizing Fox News for perpetuating an anti-Obama tone is ridiculous. They have the right to, but it is not ridiculous to criticize a news network for stirring the pot to dangerous levels.
Except that Fox News isn't stirring the pot to dangerous levels and more than MSNBC was during Bush's tenure. Or hell, as like Comedy Central was. It's only incorrectly perceived as dangerous because of this perception that Obama backlash is racially driven.

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