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Old 02-23-2014, 01:56 PM   #251
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I'm looking forward 2 the memes using set pics of this movie with the hatred of this movie should be fun

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Nope. He's the hero of the story. Heh.
Hahahaha! Touche good sir

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I'm looking forward 2 the memes using set pics of this movie with the hatred of this movie should be fun
Hatred is such an ugly word but I think you may be correct. I was merely disgusted by the first two films but I can see myself truly hating this. It's just so full on "screw you fans I know better."

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That's my thought....if the movie as now cast does good at the box office......I pity what any future comic movie will look like....because that will be giving the studios the go ahead to change things any way they damn well please.

The ones on here who are all for this change need to remember...if this is accepted...anything from now on can be majorly changed...and the next big change from the source material may be one of their favorites...so I don't want to hear any complaints from them when their favorite character is changed.
I'm confused as to how something as literally superficial as skin tone is a major thing. It's window dressing at most. I mean, we are all the same underneath, right? Just nasty imperfect sacks of meat with different wrappers.

And anything can be majorly changed in any adaption, just look at any adaption.

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Anyways so does anyone remember MBJ from his days as Wallace on The Wire. His ending on that show was a really sad moment even for HBO.

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Also in Chronicle his personality as the star jock in high school but caring personable personality really felt very Johnny Storm like.

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I'm confused as to how something as literally superficial as skin tone is a major thing. It's window dressing at most. I mean, we are all the same underneath, right? Just nasty imperfect sacks of meat with different wrappers.

And anything can be majorly changed in any adaption, just look at any adaption.
So T'challa the noble African Prince could be played by Danny DeVito and you'd wait to see the performance before jumping to any conclusions. Great call.

And NO we are not the same underneath. I definitely believe that we should be. But that is in an ideal world that I have not visited. These characters are just that: characters with certain specifics both physical and psychological that are meaningful to people. To change these specifics is to send the message that the film makers don't care what's meaningful to others and that they just care about what's happening inside their own head.
Well **** that.

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Changing a character's race to show that race doesn't matter shows that it does matter, but this move isn't about that, it's about Josh Trank having a hard on for Michael B Jordan and wanting him for the part no matter what. There wasn't even a script and we already knew he was who Trank wanted from day one. Damn everything else and how little sense it makes and how audiences are naturally going to question the obvious of how Johnny and Sue both have the same parents biologically but couldn't look further apart.
Couldn't agree more.It isn't really about race,when you consider Trank was touting MBJ from day one.He wanted to work with him on a CBM and that's that.

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I'm confused as to how something as literally superficial as skin tone is a major thing. It's window dressing at most. I mean, we are all the same underneath, right? Just nasty imperfect sacks of meat with different wrappers.

And anything can be majorly changed in any adaption, just look at any adaption.
I think Jesse Eisenberg being cast as Lex Luthor is a bigger change to the source character than Jordan being cast as Storm.

If I voiced my displeasure about the eisenberg casting on the batman/superman board as much as some are doing about Jordan here, I'd be literally flamed off the board...no pun intended.

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I think Jesse Eisenberg being cast as Lex Luthor is a bigger change to the source character than Jordan being cast as Storm.
It's a much bigger change.

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That's my thought....if the movie as now cast does good at the box office......I pity what any future comic movie will look like....because that will be giving the studios the go ahead to change things any way they damn well please.

The ones on here who are all for this change need to remember...if this is accepted...anything from now on can be majorly changed...and the next big change from the source material may be one of their favorites...so I don't want to hear any complaints from them when their favorite character is changed.
Yup.I'm thinking most of the people posting aren't old enough to remember the "Dark Ages" of CBM.

Want a CBM?You've got Superman III and IV,The 90's Captain America (with plastic surgery covered Italian,Red Skull) And if you're lucky,we'll throw in Steel.Don't like 'em?That's all you're getting.You think you have a say?Go watch 'em,and be glad you have any CBM to watch.

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I'm confused as to how something as literally superficial as skin tone is a major thing. It's window dressing at most. I mean, we are all the same underneath, right? Just nasty imperfect sacks of meat with different wrappers.

And anything can be majorly changed in any adaption, just look at any adaption.
I remember back in 2005, people complained that Chris Evans' hair wasn't light enough. And he was blond.

You honestly would expect fans to have no problem with Johnny Storm being black?

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I still haven't seen X Men origins Wolverine. Nor the Wolverine for that matter.
I'm pretty big on superhero flicks, but I haven't seen any of the Fantastic Four movies, X-men 3, last Punisher movie, last Ghost Rider, any of the Blade movies, The Wolverine, nor Thor The Dark World. I may eventually see X-men 3 and The Wolverine on Netflix before Days of Future Past if I have time or think its necessary.

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I'm pretty big on superhero flicks, but I haven't seen any of the Fantastic Four movies, X-men 3, last Punisher movie, last Ghost Rider, any of the Blade movies, The Wolverine, nor Thor The Dark World. I may eventually see X-men 3 and The Wolverine on Netflix before Days of Future Past if I have time or think its necessary.
I think most of those are worth your time. The FF movies and X3 aren't unwatchable. And the Wolverine and Thor 2 are quite good.

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I'm confused as to how something as literally superficial as skin tone is a major thing. It's window dressing at most. I mean, we are all the same underneath, right? Just nasty imperfect sacks of meat with different wrappers.
Your point is easily said when it is a white character being changed...because the common thought today is that the white characters have had their time and there are already a lot more of them than the minority characters...so they are fair game to change. But if it was a minority character being changed, then I dare say it would be a different story. I still strongly say....I want to see Black Panther, Falcon, Static Shock, Blade, etc in their own big budget movies starring black actors as them. I do not want to see white actors in those roles....

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And anything can be majorly changed in any adaption, just look at any adaption.
Absolutely.....

Catwoman was majorly changed from the comic character...how did that movie do? How was it received by fans?

Steel was majorly changed from the comic....how did that movie do? How was it received by fans?

Captain America TV movies were majorly changed from the comic....how did they do? How was it received by fans?

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Don't be a goddamn idiot.
There is absolutely no call for that.....there are a lot of us in here who are on absolute opposite sides of the issue but we are doing our best to not resort to rude name calling and offensive language.

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I'm confused as to how something as literally superficial as skin tone is a major thing. It's window dressing at most. I mean, we are all the same underneath, right? Just nasty imperfect sacks of meat with different wrappers.

And anything can be majorly changed in any adaption, just look at any adaption.
Human Torch and Invisible Woman are likely no longer biologically related (maybe half siblings, but even I think that will be a huge stretch...look at them). The different race and possibly being step siblings changes some components of their character (not saying this is a good or bad thing, just that it does change it).

Hiring an actor for Reed Richards that looks younger Human Torch seems ridiculous to me.

This movie feels more Teen Titans than Fantastic Four.

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I love when people can't admit when they are being small minded and crass.

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Your point is easily said when it is a white character being changed...because the common thought today is that the white characters have had their time and there are already a lot more of them than the minority characters...so they are fair game to change. But if it was a minority character being changed, then I dare say it would be a different story. I still strongly say....I want to see Black Panther, Falcon, Static Shock, Blade, etc in their own big budget movies starring black actors as them. I do not want to see white actors in those roles....
Those characters are fair game because they are white by default. Honestly, I've thought about this, and literally ANY character I can think of that does not express a ethnicity or nationality as an integral part of their character is fair game for change. It's just that minority characters should be changed with more caution due to poor representation.

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Absolutely.....

Catwoman was majorly changed from the comic character...how did that movie do? How was it received by fans?

Steel was majorly changed from the comic....how did that movie do? How was it received by fans?

Captain America TV movies were majorly changed from the comic....how did they do? How was it received by fans?
So then this movie will fail. We'll survive.


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There is absolutely no call for that.....there are a lot of us in here who are on absolute opposite sides of the issue but we are doing our best to not resort to rude name calling and offensive language.
I apologize for being rude to the person who does not seem to be able accept that black people and white people are the same.

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A reminder to everyone....there is no need for name calling or insults...we are trying to discuss an issue....not be playground bullies.

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Catwoman was majorly changed from the comic character...how did that movie do? How was it received by fans?
Are you talking about the major changes to Catwoman in Batman Returns? Cause I think that was well loved and successful. Or are you talking about the major changes to Catwoman in the Adam West tv show? Because I believe that was also well loved and successful.

Unless you're talking about Halle Berry's Catwoman, in which case that was just a poor film, whether they changed things or not.

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I apologize for being rude to the person who does not seem to be able accept that black people and white people are the same.
Changing race does change character history though...

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Catwoman didn't fail because she was black. It failed because it was a crappy film.

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Changing race does change character history though...
How so? I can't imagine that Johnny Storm being black would change his history enough to warrant a change in the story. As far as I know, this movie isn't going to be set in 1963.

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I will not see film now due to dumb comment by this iktor. People will see it as is. What ****. Why he'll stupid answer like this man. Make real no sense. Bresumpsthun. I now will wait for tv arrival

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