WiiU - Part 1

[Havok83]

Originally Posted by Matt Mortem

Nintendo needs to just focus on doing Nintendo stuff. Instead of trying to win the console wars, they just should worry about being the best Nintendo they can be. The Wii U has a lot of potential, they just have to capitalize on it. They haven't done so yet, but I truly believe they will. I honestly don't believe anyone will buy the Wii U with hopes to play the next COD or Battlefield. If those big third party titles are what gamers are interested in, they have an avenue for that. The PS4 and Xbox are waiting.

Nintendo doesn't have that luxury. The main reason they were able to make money this gen was bc the Wii sold for a profit from the very beginning and they sold ALOT of those. The attach rate however wasn't high but they didn't really need to sell a whole lot of software. Things are different now in that they are selling the system at a loss and they aren't selling a ton of them, so the games are a lot more important now than before. A few Nintendo releases a year will be good for them but that's not enough. They cant let themselves get boxed into a corner where the biggest publishers aren't supporting the system. That's lost money

[Benstamania]

Nintendo announced that a new Mario Kart, 3D Mario and Super Smash Bros will be at E3.

[Duke]

I wonder what new characters we'll see in Mario Kart this time around. I always wanted to see Sonic or Banjo Kazooie on it, SHAME on Nintendo for letting Rare get away.

[Duke]

Looks like the Wii U is getting some retro games of the Yakuza series in Japan for the time being.


http://www.joystiq.com/2013/05/20/ya...-red-in-japan/

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Benstamania

Nintendo announced that a new Mario Kart, 3D Mario and Super Smash Bros will be at E3.

When is the new Mario Kart out? That thing sold like crazy on the wii.

[WolfCypher]

Originally Posted by Duke

I wonder what new characters we'll see in Mario Kart this time around. I always wanted to see Sonic or Banjo Kazooie on it, SHAME on Nintendo for letting Rare get away.

Can't put the blame on Nintendo...Rare screwed them over by splitting their own shares with Microsoft so Rare could be in business with the competition...all behind Nintendo's back. So Nintendo just let them go.

[Duke]

I wasn't aware of the whole backstory between Nintendo & Rare. It's really a shame though considering that now Rare is just wasting away at Microsoft.

[hippie_hunter]

Originally Posted by WolfCypher

Can't put the blame on Nintendo...Rare screwed them over by splitting their own shares with Microsoft so Rare could be in business with the competition...all behind Nintendo's back. So Nintendo just let them go.

Nintendo deserves all the blame for letting Rare go. Nintendo's hatred of overhead is the reason why they do stupid things like creating the Pokemon Company (for no real reason at all) and not acquire studios like Rare and Game Freak. Rare wanted to be acquired, went to Nintendo first which was Nintendo's right since they owned 49% of Rare, but Nintendo just didn't want to fully absorb them.

So Rare then went to Activision and Microsoft where they got engaged in a bidding war. Activision however wasn't in a good position because Microsoft was so rich in cash they could afford to make a high bid ($375 million) and because Nintendo owned half of Rare, they could easily win with a low bid if they wanted to.

[Spidey-Bat]

Rare never made anything good after leaving Nintendo, so it's hard for me to get upset about it.

[Soapy]

Bull****.

Viva Pinata and Nuts & Bolts were both awesome, and I haven't played it, but I know there are many people who think Kameo was pretty great.

[Matt Mortem]

I just wished Nintendo maintained the rights to the games Rare made for them. Banjo is and always will be a Nintendo character.

[Duke]

Originally Posted by Matt Mortem

I just wished Nintendo maintained the rights to the games Rare made for them. Banjo is and always will be a Nintendo character.

Just imagine Banjo in Mario Kart or any of their sports games.... unfortunately, it won't happen.

[Matt Mortem]

Originally Posted by Duke

Just imagine Banjo in Mario Kart or any of their sports games.... unfortunately, it won't happen.

That'd be awesome. He'd be great in Super Smash Bros too.

[Spidey-Bat]

Originally Posted by Soapy

Bull****.

Viva Pinata and Nuts & Bolts were both awesome, and I haven't played it, but I know there are many people who think Kameo was pretty great.

Kameo had awkward controls. I hated Nuts & Bolts. The characters were fugly and the physics were buggy. I don't like simulation games to begin with, so I had no interest in playing one where I'm a pinata/garishly-colored animal..

[terry78]

I still don't know how they managed to just let Battletoads and Killer Instinct, two of their bigger possible franchises, go extinct.

[WolfCypher]

Originally Posted by hippie_hunter

Nintendo deserves all the blame for letting Rare go. Nintendo's hatred of overhead is the reason why they do stupid things like creating the Pokemon Company (for no real reason at all) and not acquire studios like Rare and Game Freak. Rare wanted to be acquired, went to Nintendo first which was Nintendo's right since they owned 49% of Rare, but Nintendo just didn't want to fully absorb them.

So Rare then went to Activision and Microsoft where they got engaged in a bidding war. Activision however wasn't in a good position because Microsoft was so rich in cash they could afford to make a high bid ($375 million) and because Nintendo owned half of Rare, they could easily win with a low bid if they wanted to.

I remember reading that when Rare was acquired by Microsoft, Rare actual contested for the rights to Donkey Kong; not just the characters they created, but the entire franchise.

I would have mind losing Rare if only Nintendo could have kept total rights at least to Perfect Dark, Banjo, & Conker.

[zenith16]

It has begun




Wii U Basic going for $240 at Target

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Target is currently offering the 8GB Wii U Basic at $239.99, one of the lowest prices if not the lowest price we've seen from a major North American retailer. Put your calculators away: that's 20 percent off the normal price of $300. Back in March, Best Buy put the Wii U Basic on sale at $250 for a couple of days.

The Wii U fell below targets In Nintendo's year-end financials, coming in at 3.45 million shipped worldwide as of March 31. According to the estimates of Wedbush analyst Michael Pachter, aka the Pachter-tron, the Wii U sold 55,000 units in the US last month.

• Via: Nintendo Everything
• Source: Target

[Iceman]

Better!

Wonder how cheap it will get during the next gen launches.

Once it gets to $199 it'll be open to a much larger audience.

[Matt Mortem]

If they drop the price on the deluxe, there better be an ambassador program like the 3DS. Also, with the new Xbox being announced, it looks like Nintendo will be my console of choice for this generation. Not too surprising. The Gamecube was the only console I owned that generation too.

[Spidey-Bat]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Better!

Wonder how cheap it will get during the next gen launches.

Once it gets to $199 it'll be open to a much larger audience.

Target is having a sale, it's nothing noteworthy. There have been better deals at Best Buy when they offered Nintendoland for free with the Basic set. When it's a universal price drop, then it will be significant.

[Havok83]

Originally Posted by Spidey-Bat

Target is having a sale, it's nothing noteworthy. There have been better deals at Best Buy when they offered Nintendoland for free with the Basic set. When it's a universal price drop, then it will be significant.

that's not a better deal. Target's $240 + Nintendoland (which is $33 at Amazon) for $233 is a much better price than BB's Basic at $299 with the game free. This does appear to be the best deal on the base model since release. Besides what if you don't want Nintendoland? With a $60 savings, you can take that $60 and put it towards something of your own choice instead

[Iceman]

Originally Posted by Spidey-Bat

Target is having a sale, it's nothing noteworthy. There have been better deals at Best Buy when they offered Nintendoland for free with the Basic set. When it's a universal price drop, then it will be significant.

Yeah agreed & the sooner the better for a universal price dorp. Probably not likely but $199 for a relatively new system will be tempting for a lot of people not expecting to get it right now if it gets to that by the beginning of next year.

[Spidey-Bat]

I checked my math. $300 WiiU plus a free Nintendoland (assuming $60 and 7% tax), would only save you $0.01 versus Target's $240 deal. The latter is definitely the better deal, especially if Nintendoland isn't $60 now.