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Old 11-09-2015, 06:59 AM   #1
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Default Are Poe Dameron and Kylo Ren Brothers? Is Kylo Actually a Dameron?

With all of these theories that Kylo and Rey are connected, perhaps we are being led astray. Clearly, Rey is the protagonist and Kylo is the antagonist. Not every protagonist-antagonist connection requires a sibling relationship, however. The greatest thing about Star Wars is the unpredictable nature of the story. Nobody foresaw Vader as Luke's father. Nobody could predict Luke and Leia being twins.

What if, then, Poe and Kylo are siblings? One possibility few have discussed in the connection between the two dark, wavy-haired military men. Perhaps Kylo is a Dameron.





Here's a potential spoiler, but it is a valuable piece of evidence in linking the two characters:

http://images-cdn.moviepilot.com/ima...ore-388804.jpg

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Both members of the Resistance, but then Kylo turned?


We saw this in the Comic Con reel. Isaac is sporting the same kind of dark, wavy hair as Driver throughout this film. We "see" the two meet in the recent North American trailer as well.





Perhaps the sibling connection lies here.



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Old 11-09-2015, 07:01 AM   #2
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No they are not related. We know who each of their parents are, and they don't share them.

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Old 11-09-2015, 07:03 AM   #3
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No they are not related. We know who each of their parents are, and they don't share them.
Who are their parents? More specifically, who are Kylo's parents? We seem to hardly know anything, except that Poe Dameron is at least one son of Kes Dameron and Shara Bey. There is nothing to refute the possibility of the existence of another Dameron.


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Old 11-09-2015, 07:13 AM   #4
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Kylo's parents are in the movie, Poe's aren't. All you need to know.

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Old 11-09-2015, 07:16 AM   #5
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Kylo's parents are in the movie, Poe's aren't. All you need to know.
That's all speculation. There is nothing concrete about what you have said, so you can't use that as counter-evidence. Plus, don't you think it would be too easy for that to be the twist?


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Old 11-09-2015, 07:22 AM   #6
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It is not speculation, it comes from the same spoilers that have confirmed everything we have seen in the trailers. Also, it isn't a twist.

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Old 11-09-2015, 07:31 AM   #7
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It is not speculation, it comes from the same spoilers that have confirmed everything we have seen in the trailers. Also, it isn't a twist.
Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
You mean the one that has Maz Kanata as Finn's love interest?


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Have you been speaking to Apollo, Rocket?

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You mean the one that has Maz Kanata as Finn's love interest, and no Super Star Destroyers?
No. Maybe you and Apollo have been reading the same speculation.

These spoilers:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Placed Maz as the owner of the castle and a former Jedi at Luke's academy. Long before the trailers.

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Old 11-09-2015, 07:40 AM   #10
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No. Maybe you and Apollo have been reading the same speculation.

These spoilers:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Placed Maz as the owner of the castle and a former Jedi at Luke's academy. Long before the trailers.
It's the 4Chan one, right?

"Spoiler Man."

It leaked last December. That one describes what you said, but it also contains the spoiler from my post.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Maz is a Jedi at Luke's academy and also Finn's eventual love interest.

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/co...i_leak_part_3/


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It's the 4Chan one, right?

"Spoiler Man."

It leaked last December. That one describes what you said, but it also contains the spoiler from my post.
No. Not at all. I actually have no idea what you are talking about. These are from a dedicated Star Wars site.

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Old 11-09-2015, 07:46 AM   #12
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No. Not at all. I actually have no idea what you are talking about. These are from a dedicated Star Wars site.
I'm surprised. This YouTube summary of it by BattlefrontUpdates has received 84,000 views.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8B1P1BAu3I

Dash Star reported a different plot summary a week ago. I haven't yet listened to it.

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MSW is reliable and that's who Darth is talking about. They have given us screenshots, concept art, and all reliable information. They've had the call sheets for over 10 months and have shared every piece of info. That and the trailer descriptions they have given prior are dead on. These guys have the info.

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I am surprised that anyone has been following Star Wars spoilers and hasn't heard of MakingStarWars.net. Because they have actually been accurate and the source of debate on actual Star Wars forums.

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MSW is reliable and that's who Darth is talking about. They have given us screenshots, concept art, and all reliable information.
Have a listen to this plot summary from Dash Star and please tell me if it's accurate. I'd like to know what I'm getting into if I decide to listen to it. I'd like to know if it's bogus or not because Dash Star is a pretty popular YouTube Star Wars talk personality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtGd-dA4RqM

79,000 views since October 27.


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I don't have time to listen to all of that, but yes, he took all of that from MSW....who again had all this info for us back in Feb/March of this year. Not "October 27th". There are some small things I think he tries to speculate. But you can tell he's reading right from MSW's description. But he misses a lot of it, and seems to guess a few things. But overall this is from MakingStarWars.net (MSW)

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I don't have time to listen to all of that, but yes, he took all of that from MSW....who again had all this info for us back in Feb/March of this year. Not "October 27th".
79,000 views on his video since October 27.


Just to demonstrate the magnitude of his popularity.



Reading the comments, a lot of people hate this plot summary. It's being bashed nearly unanimously in that comments section. If it is true, I am surprised. That scares me.

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79,000 views on his video since October 27.


Just to demonstrate the magnitude of his popularity.



Reading the comments, a lot of people hate this plot summary.
Yes, because YT comments is a way to gauge popularity. And since when has 79,000 been a lot on YT? I just can't.

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Negative comments on Youtube!!? What else is new haha. I would not listen to such garbage. That is usually the bottom of the barrel.

But again....he took ALL of this from MSW. Who has a much more popular site, and is often sited by podcasts in the SW fandom.

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Yes, because YT comments is a way to gauge popularity. And since when has 79,000 been a lot on YT? I just can't.
For a Star Wars discussion channel, I think it is.



Collider seems to receive about 100,000 views on most of its Jedi Council podcast episodes. I don't think there are any bigger podcasts relating to the subject matter than Jedi Council. They also have a much larger viewer base, though, due to their affiliation with Schmoes Know and Fandango Movieclips.


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Negative comments on Youtube!!? What else is new haha. I would not listen to such garbage. That is usually the bottom of the barrel.

But again....he took ALL of this from MSW. Who has a much more popular site, and is often sited by podcasts in the SW fandom.
"Dude, that Stormtrooper is black. That ain't right. And what is with the little girl? I bet they went full PC and added some of those weird gay people into this movie as well."

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"Dude, that Stormtrooper is black. That ain't right. And what is with the little girl? I bet they went full PC and added some of those weird gay people into this movie as well."
Well, those comments aren't fair, but most of the comments in the comments section are about how the story seems like an "amateur fan fiction."

There seems to be universal disappointment.

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For a Star Wars discussion channel, I think it is.



Collider seems to receive about 100,000 views on most of its Jedi Council podcast episodes. I don't think there are any bigger podcasts relating to the subject matter than Jedi Council. They also have a much larger viewer base, though, due to their affiliation with Schmoes Know and Fandango Movieclips.
People type in Star Wars spoilers into google and YT, especially after new footage is released. This is nothing new.

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Well, those comments aren't fair, but most of the comments in the comments section are about how the story seems like an "amateur fan fiction."

There seems to be universal disappointment.
Yes, because that sounds like mature discussion as well. I guess the advance tickets sales have been a mirage, same with the overwhelming positive reaction to the footage across the web.

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The canon books specifically name Poe Damerons parents, and they are not Han & Leia.

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