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Old 06-07-2014, 05:30 PM   #51
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Wright just seems better off doing his own thing. He's very successful at doing it, and he'll keep being so. This sucks when this happens, but let's not throw a fit when this doesn't come through like we wanted. Same with Aranofsky and The Wolverine. That sucked but from what I heard, maybe it was best he left after all. You don't know how these things can play out.

Wright is gone. Marvel didn't kill his career or him. He's been gone for a couple weeks. Have we recovered? There are more important things to languish and mourn on in the world.

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Actually it's the opposite of that. I don't want childish ****** films controlled by Disney and Marvel that hire yes men directors(pun intended). The way Marvel conducts business is scaring the talented people behind the cameras in Hollywood away.
I'm pretty sure this is the direction they are going. As long as their fan base is ok with that kind of film I expect them to continue. I don't have a problem with this kind of film but I like diversity. It would be a dream for me to see a Quinten Tarantino do a marvel film his way.

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I'm pretty sure this is the direction they are going. As long as their fan base is ok with that kind of film I expect them to continue. I don't have a problem with this kind of film but I like diversity. It would be a dream for me to see a Quinten Tarantino do a marvel film his way.
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Meh...I just can't get excited about this movie anymore. I hope this flops, so Marvel learns their lesson and doesn't allow something like this to happen again. This film being successful will only be bad for Marvel fans in the long run.
I'm not mean-spirited enough to wish a flop on this. I'm a fan of Edgar Wright, but I'm a fan of Marvel Studios too, so I still ultimately wish them success. But still, at the end of the day they're a film studio, with shareholders. That means the only thing they'll learn from a flop would be to try less risky, offbeat ideas with new characters and lean more on established franchise characters.

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And so, like clockwork, here come the worrywarts predicting gloom and doom, just like with Favreau, just like with Branagh, just like with Johnston, just like the Russos. When are you people going to learn that spending a year wringing your hands accomplishes nothing? Especially when you've clearly been wrong time and time again?

"Oh, this guy must be a sycophant hired by Disney to service the execs" like there is absolutely no other possibility, like they spoke with numerous people and hired the guy with the best vision. No, that can't be! Clealry he's been hired to do their evil bidding and pump out a quickie turd.

But I guess it would be a poor excuse for an online fanboy who didn't outright assume he knew every single detail that went on behind studio office doors and start trumpeting his manufactured worse-case-scenario as fact.

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Old 06-07-2014, 05:54 PM   #57
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How’s this sound as an opening sequence? Adoring groupies cram New York’s Fifth Avenue, hoping to catch a glimpse of the Invisible Woman and Mr. Fantastic, played by Charlize Theron and “Angel”‘s Alexis Denisof. The Thing, voiced by John C. Reilly, rips the top off an armored car and yanks out two would-be robbers. Paul Walker shouts, “flame on!” as his Johnny Storm character ignites into the Human Torch, saving a female fan from another thief’s rocket launcher.

Two hours later, just before the credits role on “The Fantastic Four,” New York’s favorite superheroes buzz away in their Fantastic Car, with Johnny dropping 8×10 photos to fans in a scene shamelessly lifted from the Beatles’ “A Hard Day’s Night.”

That’s what audiences will see if all goes according to plan for “Fantastic Four” screenwriter Doug Petrie, who together with director Peyton Reed (“Bring It On”) is bringing one of Marvel Comics’ most beloved properties to the big screen.

“The big debate between everybody was giant monster or no giant monster,” Petrie said of the flick’s proposed opening scene. “I wanted the poster for the movie to be the cover for the first issue, where basically you do a live-action version of a giant monster ripping through Fifth Avenue and Fantastic Four kicking its ass. For budget reasons, it went to something else, but it’s still a giant opening scene. It’s ‘A Hard Days Night.’ It’s everybody going to watch the Beatles.

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Wish we'd got that... Would have certainly been interesting

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Would be ****ing awesome
A 70's style Heroes for Hire would have been better. But Tarantino said over a decade ago he'd never touch a licensed property because he couldn't handle the fanboys endlessly picking apart every decision he made. And they would.

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A 70's style Heroes for Hire would have been better. But Tarantino said over a decade ago he'd never touch a licensed property because he couldn't handle the fanboys endlessly picking apart every decision he made. And they would.
He has expressed some interest of late of doing a Bond film. He also wrote a script for Silver Surfer in the late 90's.

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Not everybody is cut out for Marvel. They have a specific plan, and so far their plan has worked and make consistent quality films that are better than the average comic book film. They've taken risks, and still taken chances on filmmakers. But if you don't fall in line what they want, then you don't belong. It's not "Oh my God, corporate suits are intruding upon filmmakers artistic integrity! Oh, these auteurs are suffering!" *throws up in mouth* These filmmakers are facilitators. Whether you're an Edgar Wright or an Alan Taylor. And so far, as Machiavellian as it's been, it's gotten highly successful results, commercially and among the crowds and fans. Their quality control has been nothing but solid. And honestly, if anyone thought Wright leaving was completely out of the question, you are naive if you haven't look at their track record. I was worried this would happen a while ago. But I'm actually surprised it lasted as long as it did.

Let's face it, few filmmakers, even Wright, has the control and clout to call the shots on any comic book film or high budget tentpole film, no matter where he works. If anything, there's more yes men working at WB for Snyder and Goyer. Because at this point, who's gonna come in and tell Chris Nolan, Zack Snyder and David Goyer what they're doing is flawed? Hence MOS. That is the film that NEEDED what Marvel has.
I agree with a lot of this. Peyton Reed is not exactly my favorite director, but as others have said, he is competent and has somewhat of a visual flair. That really helps considering he won't have much time to prep this film, and largely will be a slave to whatever Adam McKay does with the script. We can question the Marvel Method all we want, but to this point, it has yielded films I quite enjoy. Like many pointed out, when the Russos were hired, everyone complained and thought Cap 2 was going to suck. Look how that turned out! That said, I doubt Ant-Man ends up being Cap 2 level amazing. But, I can see this being a fun piece of entertainment. That is basically all I am asking for at this point. I do think getting Adam McKay to work on the script was a great decision.

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^^ QT said Kill Bill was set in his own version of an MCU. Most of the characters have heightened physical powers and theres rules/connections/backstories just like in a comic book world.

For instance, one detail is a Hattori Hanzo sword has to get blood on it once its unsheathed or else the user will be cursed after putting it back. (see Elle Drivers outcome)

QT working for Marvel would be like having another Joss Whedon if he was more open to using CGI, digital, writing something adapted from another source. QT would never do it of course.

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I don't see Quentin Tarantino ever doing anything for the MCU, or any established comic book property, really. He's an iconoclast, who marches to the beat of his own drum. If people think that Edgar Wright was not an easy fit with the studio, that's nothing compared to QT.

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Now that Paradox has mentioned it, I need QT to direct a MCU film. It's got to be Deadpool, and it's got to have Wolverine and Punisher in it. I need it!

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I frankly am disappointed he never decided to do Punisher.

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I don't see Quentin Tarantino ever doing anything for the MCU, or any established comic book property, really. He's an iconoclast, who marches to the beat of his own drum. If people think that Edgar Wright was not an easy fit with the studio, that's nothing compared to QT.
True, he never would.

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I agree with a lot of this. Peyton Reed is not exactly my favorite director, but as others have said, he is competent and has somewhat of a visual flair. That really helps considering he won't have much time to prep this film, and largely will be a slave to whatever Adam McKay does with the script. We can question the Marvel Method all we want, but to this point, it has yielded films I quite enjoy. Like many pointed out, when the Russos were hired, everyone complained and thought Cap 2 was going to suck. Look how that turned out! That said, I doubt Ant-Man ends up being Cap 2 level amazing. But, I can see this being a fun piece of entertainment. That is basically all I am asking for at this point. I do think getting Adam McKay to work on the script was a great decision.
Plus, McKay has worked with Rudd before and comes from the Judd Apatow School of "re-working scripts while shooting."

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Well, they found somebody. It still worries me though, especially with them not moving the release date back to compensate for them having to re-write the script again.

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I've never seen any of his films, but do remember when he was going to make a FF film back in the early 00's. Regardess, good luck to him, and we can still get a good Ant-Man movie. Though I agree thety should push the film back to the Fall.

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You know, for all we know McKay has been working on the script since he met with them, what, a couple weeks ago now. Maybe there's been more going on at marvel studios than we know.

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You know, for all we know McKay has been working on the script since he met with them, what, a couple weeks ago now. Maybe there's been more going on at marvel studios than we know.
Impossible. As fans with no inside knowledge whatsoever we know everything.

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I don't see Quentin Tarantino ever doing anything for the MCU, or any established comic book property, really. He's an iconoclast, who marches to the beat of his own drum. If people think that Edgar Wright was not an easy fit with the studio, that's nothing compared to QT.
Not only that, but he already said when Sin City came out that he wouldn't want to deal with that kind of fan expectation or baggage that comes with that kind of project. I don't remember what he said verbatim, but more or less, he knows how we can be and he just doesn't want to deal with it.

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