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Old 12-12-2013, 05:52 PM   #26
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You're right actually. Seriously, like 20 mins on Krypton? Talk about bloated.

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Old 12-12-2013, 09:15 PM   #27
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I thought the opening sequence of Krypton could have been told in quick flashbacks. I don't think it needed a large 20 minute opening.

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Old 12-12-2013, 09:16 PM   #28
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3 hours hopefully

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Old 12-12-2013, 09:24 PM   #29
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I'd personally want 5+ hours, but that'll never happen.

I think they could probably get away with just under 3, depending on the pacing.

(but it'll probably be poorly paced, like most of Snyder's films, and the studio will probably ask for a shorter cut, about 2 hrs 40 minutes).

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Old 12-14-2013, 05:55 PM   #30
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The problem is you all don't know what the story going to entail, you're all assuming it's going to be this epic narrative which requires minimum 2 hours 30 mins simply down to who the characters are. Has no-one bothered to think it's possible the story they have in mind might not need such a long run time? Do you all want a bloated movie? Man of Steel could have used a good 15 mins cut.
Sure, of course it's possible, but is it likely? These films have a history of trying to be epic, and that strive to be epic is what makes them impactful and memorable, so they should be going for that. I don't want bland, popcorn Superman films like the last Captain America. It would be a huge waste of such a resonant license.

So, yes, those stories need time to flesh themselves out.

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Old 12-14-2013, 06:31 PM   #31
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I'm thinking 2 hours and 30-35 minutes. Should be enough for this film. Anything longer would make it feel bloated.

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Old 12-14-2013, 06:53 PM   #32
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Two hours and thirty minutes should provide sufficient coverage for Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman.

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Old 12-14-2013, 07:14 PM   #33
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Hmmm I give it about maybe...2 hours and 40 mins, if I'm estimating it right.

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I'm hoping more focus on the characters and a little less action compared to Man of Steel, regardless of runtime.

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Old 12-22-2013, 07:03 PM   #35
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153 Minutes.

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2 Hours, and Thirty-Seven minutes.


Without credits.

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Old 12-22-2013, 07:09 PM   #37
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2 Hours, and Thirty-Seven minutes.


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I would be happy with this.

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Old 12-22-2013, 07:13 PM   #38
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I'd personally want 5+ hours, but that'll never happen.

I think they could probably get away with just under 3, depending on the pacing.

(but it'll probably be poorly paced, like most of Snyder's films, and the studio will probably ask for a shorter cut, about 2 hrs 40 minutes).
Yep. This is the differentiator that actually matters with Snyder. His films have always had moderate length, so I don't think it'll be an issue. What causes concern is how he will allocate those several plot threads together into a cohesive viewing experience. MOS was arguably his worst paced and edited film thus far.

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MOS was really fast paced. Not sure if that's a good or bad thing

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I hoping for 2:45 to be honest but would be okay with 2:30. It really does depend on what story they decide to tell and how big they plan on going (universe wise) in this film.

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Yep. This is the differentiator that actually matters with Snyder. His films have always had moderate length, so I don't think it'll be an issue. What causes concern is how he will allocate those several plot threads together into a cohesive viewing experience. MOS was arguably his worst paced and edited film thus far.
Brenner's gotta go.

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Old 12-22-2013, 10:50 PM   #42
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Brenner's gotta go.
Looking at his credits I don't think he's the problem. The consistent factor here seems to be Snyder himself. Obviously it would be absurd to suggest he get off the director's chair, but I think it's reasonable to want him out of the editing room altogether. The man is born for short-form storytelling. Past that his flaws start to show.

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Looking at his credits I don't think he's the problem. The consistent factor here seems to be Snyder himself. Obviously it would be absurd to suggest he get off the director's chair, but I think it's reasonable to want him out of the editing room altogether. The man is born for short-form storytelling. Past that his flaws start to show.
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Old 12-22-2013, 11:59 PM   #44
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MOS was entirely Snyder fault.

A large part of it was Nolan's.

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10 minutes...of stuff not exploding.

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Old 12-23-2013, 12:02 AM   #46
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A lot of it was Goyer, I think some of it in part because of NOLAN restrictions and tonality (he's a goodstoryteller, but I don't think he cares for the fantasy aspect of the genre) and I think the pacing issues lie on Snyder.

I feel like if it were better written, it would still be awkwardly paced/constructed, but it would have less characterization and plotting issues, AND be more enjoyable.

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I feel like if it were better written, it would still be awkwardly paced/constructed, but it would have less characterization and plotting issues, AND be more enjoyable.
I fear you just described the sequel. But who knows, entertainment value does go a very long way. Perhaps that will catapult the film to levels where it can compete with Avengers 2.

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^^^ I still don't think it will be able to compete, to be honest. It will do better than MOS, but Marvel movies (especially any Avengers sequels) have reached a level where quality isn't even demanded for them to make mass amounts of money. I use IM3 as an example. DC hasn't reached that. People expect Dark Knight level quality from them. While I respect DC for their recent stylistic choices, they did kinda shoot themselves in the foot by not doing lighter, kiddier movies. It's just much easier to produce those than to do what DC is trying to do now.

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Old 12-23-2013, 12:55 AM   #49
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You're right actually. Seriously, like 20 mins on Krypton? Talk about bloated.
Not to me, I loved every second of the Krypton stuff. We don't get to see that part of Superman's past all that often. Also, this is a VERY different Krypton, so it needed set up and seeing Jor-el, Lara, and Zod play off each other was a treat.

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^^^ I still don't think it will be able to compete, to be honest. It will do better than MOS, but Marvel movies (especially any Avengers sequels) have reached a level where quality isn't even demanded for them to make mass amounts of money. I use IM3 as an example. DC hasn't reached that. People expect Dark Knight level quality from them. While I respect DC for their recent stylistic choices, they did kinda shoot themselves in the foot by not doing lighter, kiddier movies. It's just much easier to produce those than to do what DC is trying to do now.




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