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View Poll Results: Do you like the Donner Films because of Nostalgia?
Yes, I was a kid when I first saw them. 6 10.17%
No, I like them because I think they're good movies. 31 52.54%
I liked them as a kid and still like them now, but not because of nostalgia 22 37.29%
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Old 09-14-2016, 01:55 PM   #1
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Default Do you like Superman: The Movie and/or Superman 2 because of nostalgia?

I'm Curious. It seems like a few people on the Hype nowadays believe you can only enjoy these films if you wear rose colored glasses.

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Old 09-14-2016, 02:00 PM   #2
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I voted option 2 because at the end of the day, nostalgia or not, I like them because they're good movies. Frankly they're the only good Superman movies.

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Old 09-14-2016, 02:05 PM   #3
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No, I like them because of Christopher Reeve's undeniably perfect performance and John William's iconic score. I didn't watch these movies when I was young, and while I admit that they're not my favorite superhero films, they still hold up for a variety of reasons.

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Default Re: Do you like Superman: The Movie and/or Superman 2 because of nostalgia?

Of course theres a certain ain't of nostalgia there but I like them because they're great movies and IMO Superman the Movie is still the best CBM of all time.

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I like them because I enjoy them as movies.

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They great because they are great movies.

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Lots of heart, fantastic music and terrific performances, especially by Kidder and Reeves. The two films hold up quite nicely after nearly four decades.

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I don't like the first one at all. The second one I liked as a kid and still like because it's good.

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I genuinely like Superman II. S:TM, nostalgia glasses.

MoS is still the best Superman movie.

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Of course theres a certain ain't of nostalgia there but I like them because they're great movies and IMO Superman the Movie is still the best CBM of all time.
Agreed. For my money, Richard Donner's 1978 masterpiece is still the greatest superhero film ever made. If you ask, Chris Nolan, Sam Raimi and Bryan Singer, they'll all tell you the same thing.

Even Patty Jenkins cited STM, as her source of inspiration for Wonder Woman (at Comic Con) (2:00)

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It's definitely the most historical significant. It created this genre. It literally is is the blueprint for the modern superhero film.

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Agreed. For my money, Richard Donner's 1978 masterpiece is still the greatest superhero film ever made. If you ask, Chris Nolan, Sam Raimi and Bryan Singer, they'll all tell you the same thing.

Even Patty Jenkins cited STM, as her source of inspiration for Wonder Woman (at Comic Con) (2:00)

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It's definitely the most historical significant. It created this genre. It literally is is the blueprint for the modern superhero film.

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I think they are legitimately good movies anchored by arguably the greatest performance by a lead actor in a CBM (the other candidate being RDJ). The sequel also has one of the genre's greatest villains.

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I think they're good films, period. And the practical effects always impress me.

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I was born in the 90's so I didn't see them until well after they were released. I think they hold up as legitimately good movies, barring a few problems (I don't really care for Hackman as Luthor, even though he is an immensely talented actor).

Reeve is also one of the few instances where I've ever actually been able to buy that people think Clark and Superman are two separate people.

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To be honest, it is out of nostalgia because those movies have not aged well. I showed them to my kids a few years ago and they thought they were silly with the "flying around the earth fast enough to turn back time" thing and all the new weird powers SM and the other Kryptonians got in the FOS in II. It all seemed so dated.

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To be honest, it is out of nostalgia because those movies have not aged well. I showed them to my kids a few years ago and they thought they were silly with the "flying around the earth fast enough to turn back time" thing and all the new weird powers SM and the other Kryptonians got in the FOS in II. It all seemed so dated.
Chris Reeve gave a great performance but , for me they haven't aged well. I hated Lex even at the time and Margot Kidder's Lois is not my favorite either.

The action was pretty unexciting and plot cringworthy even at the time for me. I tired watching the first two recently and really only enjoyed Reeve. However he almost carries the whole movie he does so well.

Terrance Stamp as Zod was pretty cool in the 2nd film also

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I loved them as a kid, but for me they haven't aged well at all and as I have gotten older I like them less and less and genuinely struggle to get through them now. Reeve and the score are still great, and the first hour or so of Superman 1 is still gold, but I struggle to get through the rest personally.

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I loved them as a kid, but for me they haven't aged well at all and as I have gotten older I like them less and less and genuinely struggle to get through them now. Reeve and the score are still great, and the first hour or so of Superman 1 is still gold, but I struggle to get through the rest personally.
My thoughts exactly. At least concerning the first one. I did like Zod in 2 and the bomb in Eiffel tower was a good situation for Superman to handle. Oh, and Lois trying to expose Clark is amusing.

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Superman the movie was ahead of it's time, in terms of effects and ideas, the movie itself feels like three separate mini-movies tied together.

The Krypton part is straight up SciFi stuff, the Smallville scenes are executed brilliantly having a 'grounded" feel to it though Clark displays some of his super-powers.

The actual Superman and Metropolis scenes have a campy take though towards the end tone changes a bit.

Overall, it's still an amazing movie.

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Agreed. For my money, Richard Donner's 1978 masterpiece is still the greatest superhero film ever made. If you ask, Chris Nolan, Sam Raimi and Bryan Singer, they'll all tell you the same thing.

Even Patty Jenkins cited STM, as her source of inspiration for Wonder Woman (at Comic Con) (2:00)

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It's definitely the most historical significant. It created this genre. It literally is is the blueprint for the modern superhero film.
Yeah, STM inspired a lot of current directors, like you said, Chris Nolan, Sam Raimi, Bryan Singer and Patty Jenkins regard it highly, and it influenced them a lot.

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Effects may seem a tad dated and Superman's boy-scout mentality may not gel with the more cynical society of today, but I still enjoy both Superman and Superman II (more so the Richard Donner cut) because they still hold up as enjoyable films. And as others have said, Superman kicked off the trend. Had Superman crashed and burned, who knows where comic book films would be today?

Plus, killing off the main character's love interest, even if temporarily, was still a ballsy move. Not to mention seeing Lois get buried alive in that earthquake still looks terrifying to me.

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Effects may seem a tad dated and Superman's boy-scout mentality may not gel with the more cynical society of today, but I still enjoy both Superman and Superman II (more so the Richard Donner cut) because they still hold up as enjoyable films. And as others have said, Superman kicked off the trend. Had Superman crashed and burned, who knows where comic book films would be today?

Plus, killing off the main character's love interest, even if temporarily, was still a ballsy move. Not to mention seeing Lois get buried alive in that earthquake still looks terrifying to me.


Agreed, and I am still amazed by how real this scene looks.

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The first one is and always will be a classic. Reeve is absolutely perfect as Superman and while some things are a bit dated and goofy like the spinning-the-earth-backwards thing at the end, it's still an amazing film and absolutely the best Superman film.

The second one is also very good, I just wish they'd scaled back on some of the corny elements, like the way Lex escapes from prison and all that. Still it's a fun movie and Terrance Stamp's Zod is iconic.

It's a shame that they didn't make a third film that was up to par with the first two. I guess it was the first example of the "threequel curse" in the superhero genre.

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Im not a fan of those movies in general, they are too campy for my tastes. Plus the out of no where powers. reversing time, throwing the S, kiss memory erasing powers.

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Im not a fan of those movies in general, they are too campy for my tastes. Plus the out of no where powers. reversing time, throwing the S, kiss memory erasing powers.
Superman 2 Richard Donner cut is much less campy and it basically has 50 % new footage (instead of Lester's) and it looks better, though I really consider it a step down from STM.

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