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Old 12-13-2012, 10:53 PM   #426
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If you read the summary by the guy who started the thread where the scans were posted...

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You find out that all along, Doc Ock wanted to be Spider-man...
I read the summary (didn't before). If
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the thoughts of the two were transferred, wouldn't that mean Ock thinks like Peter now, meaning he wants to save people now like Peter did?

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Sooo this seems largely like a copy and paste of Kraven's Last Hunt.

ya know, before the whole suicide thing.


edit: figured I should've spoiler tagged that.

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Old 12-13-2012, 10:55 PM   #428
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FYI... I'm gonna stop coming to the Hype until AFTER Boxing Day when I can read ASM #700 without being spoiled...

So having said that, I will post the Diamond List in the Marvel Comics forum ,and to all my Spidey friends around here... Happy Holidays.

Aloha,
You beat me to that same position!
Happy Holidays to you and the family.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS to ALL of the Hype family.
Health, wealth and Peace of mind for the new Year!
See you AFTER #700 comes out and I have a chance to read it AT LEAST TWICE!
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Yikes, people are showing spoilers for #700.

Merry Christmas folks and see you after i get to read #700

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Old 12-14-2012, 08:05 AM   #430
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Okay, I'm now convinced the Superior Spider-Man is going to be
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Doc Ock in Peter's body after all, having been reformed, thanks to Peter, at the last minute.

Thing of it is, I, and probably a lot of readers, would have a HUGE problem with this. Aside from the obvious of having a Spider-Man who isn't Peter Parker, it basically means that Peter is essentially giving Doc Ock permission to continually deceive and manipulate the people Peter cares about. Now some would argue that Peter kind of does this already with his pretending not to be Spider-Man, but in this case you'd have Doc Ock pretending to be both Peter and Spider-Man, essentially taking advantage of the love and affection Peter's friends, family and loved ones have for him with Peter's blessing. Especially with regards to Mary Jane because, like it or not, this STILL amounts to Doc Ock taking advantage of her love for Peter and seducing her under false pretenses.

Furthermore, I really don't see how such a status quo can be maintainable. Remember what former editor Glenn Greenberg said in one of the Life of Reilly articles? He said one the primary reasons why the Clone Saga ended up being a disaster was because readers, particularly new ones, were confused as to who Ben Reilly was and why he was Spider-Man, which forced Marvel to have to constantly explain how Ben Reilly was the "real Peter Parker" but couldn't live his life as Peter because the Peter we all thought was real turned out to be a clone. It unnecessarily complicated things. Here you'd have a situation in which you'd have someone who looks exactly like Peter Parker, who everyone calls Peter Parker, only it's not actually Peter Parker, forcing Marvel to have to explain how it's really a reformed Doc Ock pretending to be Peter Parker and Spider-Man, how he got into Peter's body and what happened to the real Peter. Again, it over-complicates things.

Finally, even if Doc Ock is reformed due to Peter's influence (perhaps going as far as a "Dying Wish,") I still think it would very out of character for Doc Ock to want to continue pretending to be someone else for the rest of his life and letting that person get all the credit, even if it was to "honor their legacy," so to speak. That's NEVER been Doc Ock's MO. Sure, the conflict would be that Doc Ock would be thinking that Parker is the one getting all the respect and attention rather than himself, but there's bound to be a breaking point with an ego such as his.
So what you're saying is that in short Superior, despite Dan and Wacker's hype, will end up just being another 'clone saga' with an element of Kraven's Last Hunt.

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Old 12-14-2012, 08:22 AM   #431
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Wow. The book isn't out for two weeks, and there are already spoilers out there! Love how peopl eare hating on a book for scans of two pages. Lame.

I didn't look at them, and I wish everyone a Merry Christmas, Festivus, or whatever you celebrate. I'll be avoiding spoilers until I've read the book for myself. GOOD DAY, SIRS!!!

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Old 12-14-2012, 10:05 AM   #432
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Well, just glancing at the posts and not even opening up the spoilers, seems you guys confirmed Superior, which I too, didn't want to be spoiled. So, before I find out what happens in 700, I too will bail on these threads until I read it!

So, Merry Christmas all!

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Old 12-14-2012, 03:41 PM   #433
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I read the spoiler page...couldn't help it lol.

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I doubt that this will last long. I think Peter will resurface and someone is going to find out about what really happened. I really don't think Peter is gone for real. I mean look at the Incredible hulk. He killed Banner and then Banner was still alive.

I think that eventually Peter will start to shine through since really it's the brain patterns that were rewritten to THINK it's ock will all the memories.

I definitely don't think it's going to last 2 years.....not at all.

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What's wrong with Miles Morales and the Ultimate universe?
Well the Ultimate universe as a whole is ****ing horrible, but I like Miles and USM. I think the main problem with Miles is the fact that they needlessly killed Peter in order to introduce him. He should have just been the USM version of the Scarlet Spider.

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The goggles seem very reminiscent of this version of Dock Ock to me.


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I'd love to see that cover in 3D

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The story would have worked SO much better if they had simply made Norman RAPE Gwen...
Too dark and not youth friendly

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I'd love to see that cover in 3D
MJ would look good as 3D in that image The Infernal put up...

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Already with the color screwups...I thought the non red areas were supposed to be black...not a powder blue color...

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the mask is wrong, too. On the new costume, there's only supposed to be 2 web lines going up from the center of the mask, and 3 going down.

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the mask is wrong, too. On the new costume, there's only supposed to be 2 web lines going up from the center of the mask, and 3 going down.
And JQ drew the costume as you described it in the Marvel Now teaser

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It's JQ, Nuff Said.

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Old 12-15-2012, 12:13 PM   #446
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Ummm...i saw the scans, but i was thinking...in the marvel site, when i click on the last issue of asm, it says that penciller will be camuncoli...while in the scans i saw ramos at work.
So...are them the true scans?
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Ummm...i saw the scans, but i was thinking...in the marvel site, when i click on the last issue of asm, it says that penciller will be camuncoli...while in the scans i saw ramos at work.
So...are them the true scans?
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Ramos is the artist for ASM #700. I have no idea where you saw Camuncoli.

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Ummm...i saw the scans, but i was thinking...in the marvel site, when i click on the last issue of asm, it says that penciller will be camuncoli...while in the scans i saw ramos at work.
So...are them the true scans?
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Ramos is doing the main 50-something page story. I think Camuncoli is doing one of the short stories included in the book.

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Couldn't find a source on this but here's some new art.

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That artist's representation of the Superior Spider-Man mask is atrocious.

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