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Old 03-18-2014, 09:14 PM   #851
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You people can call me a troll all you want. Reusing the same art for a new movie and likely trying to pass it off as "new" is lazy.
Exactly... lazy = saving money. Any chance you can do that on 200 million dollar flicks, you do it.

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Old 03-18-2014, 09:15 PM   #852
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Also why does the color scheme on Ant-Man remind me of Captain Britain o_0
maybe because Antman has red and black? But yeah the early Cap Britain does look alittle like it

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IMHO it'd be better if Ultron took over the suit with Tony still inside. Would be more dramatic if Hulk has to take the suit down without harming Tony. Otherwise he could just tear it to pieces
I mean I'd quite like to see him tear it to pieces.

But that's true. Would be a scene stronger on emotion for sure, also if Tony is conscious while unintentionally giving Banner a real battering (due to his holding back). And a bit ironic as that's normally how the Avengers would have to deal with an out of control Hulk.

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Hulk buster amazing. Quicksilver looks great. Scarlet witch not a fan of that look but ill reserve judgement till I see a trailer.

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Again I'm trying my best not to "troll". But isn't the point of paying the artists to create new stuff. Does it really save that much more money to reuse the same stuff. I'm trying not to piss everyone off. Why couldn't we just get something new drawn in. I'm sure it would only take these artists a day or two at the most.
It's concept art. Purely designed to visualize a scene from the movie. Hulk is probably going to be in a similar pose as that one in that scene so the artist just decided to use that old pic. The artist probably didn't even know their art was going to be used for this show.

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I don't get why you think they're trying to pass off the old art as new. They're not reusing images that hardly anyone saw or that can be easily forgotten or weren't all over the place lol. And have you seen much concept art/pre-vis? Check your DVDs/blu-ray extras or get a making-of book to a sci-fi/fantasy/superhero film (sequel). That should stop these embarrassing assertions.
No I haven't seen much concept art/pre-visuals from pervious movies. The only movie I saw concept art from was from Marvel's The Avengers and it looked pretty much the same in the movie.

I also don't remember Marvel's The Avengers reusing any concept art images from previous movies. Correct if I'm wrong, I just don't remember it.

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Again I'm trying my best not to "troll". But isn't the point of paying the artists to create new stuff. Does it really save that much more money to reuse the same stuff. I'm trying not to piss everyone off. Why couldn't we just get something new drawn in. I'm sure it would only take these artists a day or two at the most.
The sense of entitlement is strong in this one.

They didn't have to give us anything. Instead they decided to share some behind the scenes artwork, and most everyone is happy except you. Nobody wants to listen to some guy endlessly mewling about something so pointlessly trivial. Get a grip.

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Spot on. I think for the most part, that's the main prerogative. But once they actually see it and test it, if it doesn't work for that actor or on screen, then it doesn't work.
In this day and age, there are very few things that don't work. Hair color is one of the simplest things to translate to the screen. Steve, Fandral, Natasha, Volstagg, Dum Dum Dugan, Pepper, The Collector, etc. All of these characters had their hair colors more or less translated to the screen effortlessly, and none of their actors share the same hair color. For some reason I assumed that the white hair would just be a given.

That said, it is only concept art. I still very much expect to see the white hair.

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I'm fine with quiksilvers hair scarlet witch's outfit

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MAN I hope they have a copy of this on you tube tomorrow

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Can we get an HD shot of Quicksilver up on here.

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Again I'm trying my best not to "troll". But isn't the point of paying the artists to create new stuff. Does it really save that much more money to reuse the same stuff. I'm trying not to piss everyone off. Why couldn't we just get something new drawn in. I'm sure it would only take these artists a day or two at the most.
When they create as many images as they have to for Whedon and co., a day or two is big bucks.

In my business, we chart out at almost 100$/hour, and we're not highly paid concept artists. So that's 800 bucks a day. When you're working for weeks and weeks, a day on each image adds up to big dollars.

SO yea, they save money by pasting images of the characters already seen into the images of the sets, which is what the concepts are really focused on (unless it's new characters/suits).

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It's concept art. Purely designed to visualize a scene from the movie. Hulk is probably going to be in a similar pose as that one in that scene so the artist just decided to use that old pic. The artist probably didn't even know their art was going to be used for this show.
Thank you for responding with a level head. It seems everyone around here is ready to blow at a moments notice if you have a disagreement or issue with the material.

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Old 03-18-2014, 09:19 PM   #864
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Knowing Whedon and his penchant for misdirection, I wouldn't be surprised if the film opens with Hulk "rampaging" in South America, Tony shows up in the Hulkbuster armor, they fight or scrap or whatever, and it turns out that Banner is in control and Tony has asked his help in "testing" his new suit idea.
Yeah, just do it in front of a bunch of screaming civilians running for their lives, and get the army involved, thats a good way to go about it.

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I barely see Quicksilver in civillian clothes in the comics. Hope he's in costume for most of the movie.

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Haha. After Singer sees this he's automatically going to give his Quicksilver a bigger role and proper costume in X-Men Apocalypse :P

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This whole argument about re-using images really does prove that people will complain about literally anything.

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When they create as many images as they have to for Whedon and co., a day or two is big bucks.

In my business, we chart out at almost 100$/hour, and we're not highly paid concept artists. So that's 800 bucks a day. When you're working for weeks and weeks, a day on each image adds up to big dollars.

SO yea, they save money by pasting images of the characters already seen into the images of the sets, which is what the concepts are really focused on (unless it's new characters/suits).
Thank you for clearing that up.

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Spot on. I think for the most part, that's the main prerogative. But once they actually see it and test it, if it doesn't work for that actor or on screen, then it doesn't work.

And I'm liking their looks. Wanda looks like she belongs in Buffy the Vampire Slayer and that isn't a bad thing at all.
Exactly. And yeah, there is definitely a BtVS vibe with her look. I also like that they really do seem to look like siblings.

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So why would he be called Quicksilver if there is not a lick of silver on him?


That's not me being sarcastic. I genuinely know nothing about the character.
quicksilver is another name for mercury. mercury is known for being a fast moving liquid; at least when you try to contain it.

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MAN I hope they have a copy of this on you tube tomorrow
Yeah, me too! I misse the entire program haha. Or I at least hope it pops up in some dark corner of the Internet.

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I'm a bit worried that Whedon is completely ignoring that Tony gave up being Iron Man. That South Africa shoot has already been said to be the beginning of the movie, so why is Tony an Avenger again?

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This whole argument about re-using images really does prove that people will complain about literally anything.
I just said it was lazy. I was then corrected and told by another user that it saves money to do it this way. I'm sorry that I noticed it in two different pictures and nobody else wanted to bring it up.

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So did I just see a quick glimpse of Hulkbuster armor????

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