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Old 07-14-2017, 09:16 PM   #551
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I always compare and contrast Smallville with Gotham. I know I cannot be the only one. At this point, with what Bruce is doing now compared to Clark at this time, is what they're doing "right?" Or is this a case of different shows, different characters, etc.?
Which season was it that they stopped doing the 'this guy has powers from the meteor show' and threw in more heroes?

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Which season was it that they stopped doing the 'this guy has powers from the meteor show' and threw in more heroes?
Season 4 with Impulse. Season 5 had Aquaman and Cyborg. Season 6 with Green Arrow and Martian Manhunter. Season 7 with Supergirl, and Black Canary. Season 8 with the Legion of Super Heroes (Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, Lightning Lad) and Zatanna. Season 9 with Hawkman and the JSA (Stargirl, Dr Fate, others in cameos) and the Wonder Twins. Season 10 with Brainiac 5, Superboy, Booster Gold and Blue Beetle. If we were to include Season 11: Batman, Nightwing, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Jay Garrick, Teen Titans (introducing Speedy, Raven, Miss Martian), Rocket Red, & John Constantine.

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Old 07-14-2017, 11:14 PM   #553
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Season 4 with Impulse. Season 5 had Aquaman and Cyborg. Season 6 with Green Arrow and Martian Manhunter. Season 7 with Supergirl, and Black Canary. Season 8 with the Legion of Super Heroes (Cosmic Boy, Saturn Girl, Lightning Lad) and Zatanna. Season 9 with Hawkman and the JSA (Stargirl, Dr Fate, others in cameos) and the Wonder Twins. Season 10 with Brainiac 5, Superboy, Booster Gold and Blue Beetle. If we were to include Season 11: Batman, Nightwing, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Jay Garrick, Teen Titans (introducing Speedy, Raven, Miss Martian), Rocket Red, & John Constantine.
Speedy was introduced in season 9 episode 6 "Crossfire" and then episode 10 "Disciple". But one thing I appreciated about Smallville is how slow build up the universe and lore of the Smallville universe. It felt like a nice juxtaposition as Clark's world grew up and matured into a more Superman like character especially with him being more around Metropolis more as seasons went past, his world around him expanded and filled in with more DC characters and DC elements.

Like how season 9 introduced the difference between Metahuman and Meteor Freaks.

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Old 07-15-2017, 12:49 AM   #554
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I always compare and contrast Smallville with Gotham. I know I cannot be the only one. At this point, with what Bruce is doing now compared to Clark at this time, is what they're doing "right?" Or is this a case of different shows, different characters, etc.?
They're night and day basically. Smallville could not have gone further out of it's way to delay the inevitable, no matter how absurd it was for them to do so.

"Alright, well his powers are basically fully developed..."
"Cool, so he can f--"
"He can't fly!"
"... why?"
"He-- he just can't. And no suit either."
"Okay, well, I mean, it's not like he's got a bunch of costumed heroes as friends or anything..."
"Oh no, he's got TONS!"
"... "

Just constant constant attempts to justify delaying that journey, when really, that "No Tights, No Flights" rule was fine at the off-set, but five six seven eight nine ten seasons in... Looooooooooord.

This could be perceived as a bit of a rush, if he does indeed take on the mantle of Batman in the upcoming season, but to be honest... who cares? At this point, it's fairly clear that the show is more elseworlds than straight-up prequel. Let him be Batman now, because the alternative is waiting for a moment that will last for about ten seconds right before the series finale's end credits.

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Old 07-15-2017, 01:34 PM   #555
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They're night and day basically. Smallville could not have gone further out of it's way to delay the inevitable, no matter how absurd it was for them to do so.

"Alright, well his powers are basically fully developed..."
"Cool, so he can f--"
"He can't fly!"
"... why?"
"He-- he just can't. And no suit either."
"Okay, well, I mean, it's not like he's got a bunch of costumed heroes as friends or anything..."
"Oh no, he's got TONS!"
"... "

Just constant constant attempts to justify delaying that journey, when really, that "No Tights, No Flights" rule was fine at the off-set, but five six seven eight nine ten seasons in... Looooooooooord.

This could be perceived as a bit of a rush, if he does indeed take on the mantle of Batman in the upcoming season, but to be honest... who cares? At this point, it's fairly clear that the show is more elseworlds than straight-up prequel. Let him be Batman now, because the alternative is waiting for a moment that will last for about ten seconds right before the series finale's end credits.
Oh yes, I REMEMBER and DREADED REMEMBERING the DELAYING of Clark becoming Superman. As well as the weird decisions they did in general; Season 9 for example: why not call Clark's heroic persona "Savior" instead of the horribly dumb "Blur"? Why have a darkly and horribly placed on "S" instead of a pure white S- Shield? Why not redesign the suit so Welling could wear it? More importantly, in Season 10: why an all red jacket when a red and blue or a full leather motorcycle suit-based outfit to be our final proto suit before the main one?

Oh man.....

As for Bruce becoming Batman in Gotham season 4, possibility; while people would want it because waiting is worse by comparison, I had wondered if a 16t-17 Bruce becoming Batman would make sense and be accepted? Sure we had a 17 year old Batman in Batman Beyond, but that was with a hi tech futuristic suit that made it plausible.

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Old 07-15-2017, 04:51 PM   #556
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Episode 2 starts filming soon. Written by EP Danny Cannon and directed by Louis Milito, who has directed A Better Pill to Swallow and The Gentle Art of Making Enemies (the S3 winter finale episode with Bruce/ Jerome showdown)


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Mmm. Interesting that they blocked out the title from the ep in that pic.

Or it may be just random blurs and watermarks.

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Old 07-18-2017, 03:44 PM   #558
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Somebody would have done this in the Silver Age you'd think. I guess go nuts and have fun with this. This show is completely insane anyway, so why not?

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Old 07-18-2017, 05:07 PM   #560
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Is this official poster or did you make this?

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I believe it's for SDCC.

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Can't help to notice how much better it looks if you ignore Jim's ugly mugshot.

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Ain't that his resting face, though?

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That artwork is hnnnnnnnng.

And lol at Ben in that Comic Con pic. He's really selling the moody frown.

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Should be a notice in the trailer that viewers should fast forward to around 4:27 for actual new footage. Curious if Charlie Tahan is returning for the role of Jonathan Crane or if Gotham is going for the recast route like with Ivy and Firefly. Granted, Crane was only in two episodes, so not like a recast would be a huge deal for viewers.

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Scarecrow looks like a beefed up version of the Nolan Scarecrow, nice reveal shot to cap off the new footage.

The season looks like it will have some dynamic formative steps for young Batman and Catwoman, and I am surprised Barbara is still around, I thought Tabitha finished her off.

Only thing missing was a good look at the Iceberg Lounge!

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Good stuff. So Barbara's still alive after all?

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Erin Richards was at Comic-Con. And usually only returning actors show up for that. So Barbara is probably alive. Actually Erin confirmed Barbara will be back.


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Well yeah, I figured as such when I saw that pic a few posts back, but it was never officially confirmed until now. Not that I know of, anyway.

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Here's just the new footage.



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