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Old 10-21-2016, 09:02 AM   #351
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I absolutely loved this movie. It was my favourite movie of 2015.

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Old 12-12-2016, 07:21 PM   #352
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Civil War really made this movie better to me.

Before CW I'd give this a 7.9

After CW I'd give this a 8.6


Switching up Thor's subplot (I didn't mind it but the execution was bad and that pool was dumb and he explained the stones really poorly. The Collector did it excellently)

Toning down a few jokes and making Ultron a little more powerful he was very easily defeated every time he fought.

But I now love this movie and would rather watch it over the origin film.

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Old 12-13-2016, 04:25 PM   #353
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Civil War really made this movie better to me.

Before CW I'd give this a 7.9

After CW I'd give this a 8.6


Switching up Thor's subplot (I didn't mind it but the execution was bad and that pool was dumb and he explained the stones really poorly. The Collector did it excellently)

Toning down a few jokes and making Ultron a little more powerful he was very easily defeated every time he fought.

But I now love this movie and would rather watch it over the origin film.
I think they did good by not explaining the Infinity Stones again,but yeah the Water of Sights scene is a bit too awkward in the context of the movie, that's probably why it's so short. I always loved the movie but I think this,TWS and CW really make for a great sub-trilogy in the MCU. They just work beautifully for me together thematically.

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Old 12-14-2016, 04:39 PM   #354
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It feels a bit weird watching this again after Civil War.
I don't know how to put it, but it's about the characters relationship between this and that shortly after.

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Old 12-15-2016, 08:31 AM   #355
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It feels a bit weird watching this again after Civil War.
I don't know how to put it, but it's about the characters relationship between this and that shortly after.
When I rewatch it, I just see the seeds planted for Civil War. Especially Cap and Tony disagreeing.

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Old 02-01-2017, 10:01 PM   #356
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When I rewatch it, I just see the seeds planted for Civil War. Especially Cap and Tony disagreeing.
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Old 02-08-2017, 01:39 AM   #357
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BvS and SS makes any issues in AOU seem like nothing.
Theatrical version, which is truncated? Sure.

BvS Ultimate Edition, however? Easily better than AOU.

Even down to the mutually pointless, duel plot derailing Thor Bath scene and the Knightmare sequence.

The latter while unnecessary or redundant, still informs motivations, and is a much more imaginative as well as entertaining scene.

SS however is dog crap.

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Old 02-08-2017, 07:20 AM   #358
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While I did think the Ultimate Edition was better than the Theaterical release, I still found it pretty joyless. In the end, if both AOU and BvS were on and it was the last 30-40 minutes left, I'd watch the AOU end battle. I wouldn't be annoyed after the B vs S. fight.

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Old 02-08-2017, 02:09 PM   #359
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While I did think the Ultimate Edition was better than the Theaterical release, I still found it pretty joyless. In the end, if both AOU and BvS were on and it was the last 30-40 minutes left, I'd watch the AOU end battle. I wouldn't be annoyed after the B vs S. fight.
Why does it have to be joy filled? Just because it has the Batman and Superman? The former isn't a joy filled character to begin with.

DCEU is purposely, at least the Synder films, designed as the anti thesis to the MCU. It's dark and gritty reflection. Deconstructing it's heroes.

The DC universe exists more in our own grounded effed up world. Which makes it socio and political commentary more intriguing. As well as the threats more frightening or engaging. Yet it still has the over the top comic book elements.

It just doesn't have quip, meta humor, and tension deflating joke over load. That on the surface make the MCU more likable. But they don't strive for the same heights of greatness.

Marvel films are joyful and easier to consume. Especially on first viewing when the jokes are fresh.

But rewatch ability is poor on most of them, and there is little in the way of substance or nuance. BvS is dark and gritty. Even joyless. But I also think it's better as a film. The true Ultimate Edition though. Possibly ahead of it's time. Long term without the excess forced humor like most Marvel films, it could age better.

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I find that BvS has poor rewatch ability. Most of the recent MCU films on cable, TWS, AOU, GOTG, Ant-Man, I could just stop and watch anywhere in the film. It's a chore to watch BvS even in the Ultimate Edition.

And I understand that Batman is dark and gritty character. However, I have no issues watching the TDKT or Mask of the Phantasm, or Burton's Batman or even Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker.

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Old 02-08-2017, 02:44 PM   #361
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I also disagree that BvS will somehow age better.

And I've said this before, when the current cinematic landscape has 6 movies of the same genre being released every year, it's hard for people to look back on the heavily criticized one from a few years ago especially when it's contemporaries are rated by critic and fan as higher.

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Old 02-08-2017, 02:48 PM   #362
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I also disagree that BvS will somehow age better.

And I've said this before, when the current cinematic landscape has 6 movies of the same genre being released every year, it's hard for people to look back on the heavily criticized one from a few years ago especially when it's contemporaries are rated by critic and fan as higher.
Look at the critical response of Batman Returns 25 years later ...

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Look at the critical response of Batman Returns 25 years later ...
Even back then Batman Returns wasn't lambasted by critics. Not as good? Too dark? Maybe but never bad.

I just don't see how especially post internet, post social media, that somehow people will come around on BvS.

Even so, 25 years later, how many more CBMs are we going to get?

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Thor's subplot derailed the plot but also informed him about the infinity Stones and Vision who he woke up layer in the film. It was set up and paid off. Though it could have been written better. If you remove it from the film, then you start questioning where 0 Thor was during the Soul sequence and why he suddenly appears and wakes Vision up.

You could have cut out the Knight mare sequence in BvS and it wouldn't have made a difference. It was unnecessary, confusing and cane outta nowhere especially when Flash appears.

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Theatrical version, which is truncated? Sure.

BvS Ultimate Edition, however? Easily better than AOU.

Even down to the mutually pointless, duel plot derailing Thor Bath scene and the Knightmare sequence.

The latter while unnecessary or redundant, still informs motivations, and is a much more imaginative as well as entertaining scene.

SS however is dog crap.
BvS UE doesn't change much about the movie and doesn't remove its fundamental flaws that ruin it.

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