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View Poll Results: Which next generation platform will you buy?
Leaning Xbox 4 4.04%
Definitely Xbox 3 3.03%
Leaning Playstation 8 8.08%
Definitely Playstation 78 78.79%
Other (Wii U, PC, handheld, mobile) 2 2.02%
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:12 AM   #976
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The problem is that they shouldn't have tried to do this in the beginning. Not only that, but I just can't fathom how Microsoft thought that this was going to play out in their favor. When all the rumors about their plans regarding always online and used games came out, people where *****ing and moaning then too. And they fired one of their employees for attacking gamers for bringing up legitimate complaints, so it's not like they had their heads in the sand or anything.
Indeed. It would be different if the policies they were enacting with the console were relatively harmless and just didn't connect with audiences but what they were doing and how they presented it went beyond that. That's not to say it's fair to portray them as sniveling evildoers and Sony as shimmering do-gooders, but the fact is the former was not serving the consumer in the way they should.

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Old 06-26-2013, 09:04 AM   #977
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PS4's exclusives are already kinda weak, DC Universe is a PS3/PC game & Diablo III & Warframe have been out on the PC for a while.. all of which are free to play. Well I'm certain Warframe & DCUO are on the PC anyway as I have downloaded & played both & not paid a penny, however I only know Diablo 3 is free from their website as it's not my cup of tea.

They wouldn't need to be charging people for these games at all nevermind a half the normal PS4 game price or anything like that.. I presume they will be free from the store, because none of which are high end PC games meaning pretty much the majority of basic PC's will be able to run them.
I don't know about Warframe, but DCUO will be free to download and you don't need to subscribe to PS+ to play online.

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Old 06-26-2013, 11:13 AM   #978
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http://uk.gamespot.com/news/sony-negative-xbox-one-response-a-very-useful-source-for-ps4-6410745

Sony: Negative Xbox One response a "very useful source" for PS4

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Old 06-26-2013, 12:31 PM   #979
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I don't know about Warframe, but DCUO will be free to download and you don't need to subscribe to PS+ to play online.
That's pretty cool. Didn't know that.

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Old 06-26-2013, 12:43 PM   #980
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Sony Sacrificed the PlayStation 4 Camera to Beat Microsoft on Price
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When Sony announced that PlayStation 4 would be priced at $399 to an uproar of applause from the audience at its E3 press conference, it secured a critical edge over the Xbox One. But the advantage came at a cost: the PlayStation 4 camera. According to multiple sources, in the months leading up to E3, Sony nixed plans to include the camera add-on with every system and shave $100 off it's originally planned price of $499. Most importantly, it did so quietly, informing its retail partners only of the removal of the camera, not specifying the lower price so as not to tip its hand to Microsoft.

But in its efforts to undercut the Xbox One, Sony has damned the accessory to a future of fragmented consumer adoption and inconsistent software support. The decision has also rendered a major design element of the DualShock 4 controller — the built-in LED Move tracker — largely useless.

Microsoft's decision to bundle a Kinect with each Xbox One and require it for use may be unpopular, but it guarantees that every user will have the option to try Kinect-enabled games and experiences. For developers, it means that Kinect integration is no longer a costly gamble on a small subsection of Xbox owners — motion-detecting and voice-sensing elements can be anything from a small optional game enhancement or the primary control method.

By relegating the camera to a $59.99 add-on, Sony has ensured the opposite — a climate of codependency wherein PlayStation 4 camera adoption will hinge upon compelling software, but compelling software will only arrive after PlayStation 4 camera adoption.

What's worse, the DualShock 4's integrated LEDs are now good for little more than visual flair. Per Sony, the light-up panels will help indicate the player associated with each controller and, when supported, react to in-game cues, such as blinking red when a player is low on health. Ultimately, the limited functionality of the LEDs without the aid of the Eye won't impact the player experience or even drastically diminish the overall battery life of the controller, but it's a lingering reminder of Sony's failure to support the tech.

It's possible that Sony has long-term aspirations for the PlayStation 4 camera and the DualShock 4's integrated Move technology — the PS4 is likely to be a 10 year console, after all — but launch window support is likely to be non-existent. The device was little more than a footnote at the console's debut in February and of the more than 40 demos Sony showcased at E3, none of the PlayStation 4 titles were Eye-enabled.

At present, Sony's abandonment of the Eye in favor of a lower priced PlayStation 4 seems to be paying off — the company claims to be boosting internal sales estimates and online retailers are reporting record breaking pre-sales — but will it be able to incentivize consumers and developers to adopt the device in the future? The odds are seemingly stacked against it, but perhaps Sony has a killer app waiting in the wings.

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This works for me as I have little interest in the eye or motion gaming.

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Old 06-26-2013, 12:50 PM   #982
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That's pretty cool. Didn't know that.
Whether F2P games are behind PS+ is up to the publisher and so far none of the announced games (DCUO, Planetside 2, Warframe) will require PS+.

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Very interesting.

It looks like at an early stage these consoles, their policies and pricing were much closer but Sony have made some aggressive competitive moves since. It's certainly paying off so far but the camera thing is a calculated gamble. If it costs only $60 standalone but they were able to reduce the console by $100 it was probably worth it. Microsoft on the other hand are taking a massive Kinect gamble. That thing has to succeed for the XB1 to succeed. OF course it is different with voice commands but they have to make killer apps for it early on to justify the extra $100.

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Whether F2P games are behind PS+ is up to the publisher and so far none of the announced games (DCUO, Planetside 2, Warframe) will require PS+.
Will Planetside 2 be available at launch?

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Not really Iceman, people are buying the console, so the price is already justified.

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Old 06-26-2013, 01:27 PM   #986
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Will Planetside 2 be available at launch?
No confirmed date, sounds like it will be near launch.

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Old 06-26-2013, 01:30 PM   #987
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I think just like with the PS3...ultimately PS4 will have the better exclusives in the long run.

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Old 06-26-2013, 01:31 PM   #988
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Anybody know IF playing games as content downloads includes MMO's like DC Universe?,Not just updates But installing to hard drive and stuff,Don't want to literally wait hours to play again!

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Not really Iceman, people are buying the console, so the price is already justified.
Which part were you saying not really to?

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Which part were you saying not really to?
That Microsoft needs to justify the kinect price with good apps. They already sold it, so they don't need to justify anything.

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No confirmed date, sounds like it will be near launch.
Oh, all right.

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That headset is really disappointing, but at least one is included this time.

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That Microsoft needs to justify the kinect price with good apps. They already sold it, so they don't need to justify anything.
They sold some yes but they were always going to sell a minimum number to the hardcore XBox guys. PS4 took the early lead on preorders on a number of issues, the $100 price difference being one of them. For all those who would buy an XB1 at $399 without Kinect but haven't at $499 they have to justify this price difference.

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I think it might be nice to have such a small headset that isn't as obvious as the default headsets we got with 360.

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That headset is really disappointing, but at least one is included this time.
What is the current PS3 headset like?

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What is the current PS3 headset like?
Whatever you buy that works.

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Oh no default?

I never even tried to use one during an online game on PS3. I'm curious though now.

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I'm kind of glad the camera isn't included...I would never use it and it would just take up space.

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Things like the mic are a second thought on the ps3 and that's one of the reasons why it wasn't as social as the 360 to me when it came to multiplayer. Glad to see that has changed.

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