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Old 06-22-2016, 12:02 PM   #101
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you don't need gay friends to go to pride.. but when you know people who know people it helps for sure. socializing and house parties and what not

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Yeah I've never gone to pride with friends (it's easy to meet people there though if you want to)

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Old 06-22-2016, 07:22 PM   #103
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Or you can be like me, and stand alone sadly on a street corner wearing a rubber Green Lantern costume.

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Old 06-23-2016, 03:56 PM   #104
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Well that's definitely not happening to me.

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Old 06-23-2016, 03:57 PM   #105
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LOL


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Wait. Do they sell those?

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Well that's definitely not happening to me.

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Old 06-23-2016, 07:06 PM   #107
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Or you can be like me, and stand alone sadly on a street corner wearing a rubber Green Lantern costume.
Haha sounds hot. And don't worry, there's no wrong way to celebrate pride (unless you do it violently)

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‘Younger’ Star Nico Tortorella Opens Up About Being Sexually Fluid

So, I um...



I uhh...



I--I--



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I think it might be best if you all left the room.

... and cordon off the block.

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Old 06-24-2016, 09:34 AM   #111
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i like the legs

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Old 06-24-2016, 11:40 AM   #112
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i feel like sexually fluid sometimes is (or mostly is) this new label where you're basically saying your gay but wanting to call it something else because you don't feel like you associate or fit in with the word or community and prefer to come off mysterious and sexy...

one of my friends labels himself that but has never been able to admit he's just gay (he has a stigma about it) he obsesses over some girls (but only sleeps with men) and is more into the gay community than even I am, all gay friends, only goes to gay bars and clubs, loves drag... and no girl wants to ever do anything with him because

A) he's gay

and

B) he's kinda creepy about flirting with girls. (one of my best girl friends is no longer friends with him because he inappropriately touched her when drunk one night)

I feel like just because you may have an attraction towards women (women are beautiful, and I appreciate that beauty completely... i just personally have no interest in being inside one........) doesn't suddenly make you not gay.... I feel like people just don't like labels and stigmas that come with them..

I mean.. is being bi-sexual and "sexually fluid" any different? both mean you like both sexes.. (just depends on the person) why do we have a new label for it?

there's definitely true bisexuals out there.. but it also isn't unheard of for people to use that label as a stepping stone or label to call themselves when still figuring themselves out.. (and that's completely ok) but .. why we have multiple names for it now i have no clue...

part of it just feels cheap "i don't like the stigma of being gay, so i'm just going to call myself something else" just sorta feels like it's a big FU to the gay community sometimes just because people "dont want to deal"

idk. i have multiple feelings about that issue... Nico in particular always screamed "gay" to me. He just likes to ooze sex appeal and is and has always been one who clearly likes to flirt and have sexual attention.. he's hot, been following him for years lol.

Nyle DiMarco is another one who uses the sexually fluid label.. i think he's still figuring himself out moreso than Nico though or may actually be bi. But he too seems to love to flirt and have that attention and "mystery" around him.

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Old 06-24-2016, 11:50 AM   #113
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For those interested in LGBT content, suggest 'Swiss Army Man.' It's a very surreal movie, part of which is Dano's and Radcliffe's characters fall for each other... Don't want to say more than that, but it is a strong element of the movie that isn't being marketed. I wouldn't say the characters are gay rather fluid and bisexual.

I would say, being bi, fluid probably means someone who fluctuates between girls one second and guys the next. Hard to explain to someone who is set at a specific kinsey number, best example I can give is someone holding a bottle of water and tilting it back and forth, that being like one's sexuality. Or at least that's how I see fluid. I just call myself bi (although bi-curious would literally be the correct term right now, due to never acting on it and don't know if I ever will really unless the chance for experimenting comes knocking on my door) or a kinsey 2 since that's where I am most often.


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Old 06-24-2016, 11:58 AM   #114
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I don't think it's hard to understand at all.
Sexuality isn't only about whom you have sex with, it's about whom you connect with on a deep level and fall in love. If someone can do that with either sexes I totally understand it because both sexes have appealing physical and intellectual qualities.
I have to agree with spidey though, this making up of new labels for something that is already aptly described is indicative of someone either in some form of denial or just downright desperate for attention. Either way, it's silly.

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Old 06-24-2016, 12:00 PM   #115
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I think it's not being ready to be bi yet. OR confusion over being a kinsey 2 one second then a kinsey 4 the next. Some days notice girls and no guys, some days notice guys and no girls, other days notice both equally. I have more days like the first, but it is really a weird experience as it were in that it does flow and eb. I think fluidity came about due to most thinking being bi its being 50/50 100% of the time. But, it fluctuates.

This can lead to awkward hilarity although it isn't funny but weird at the time. Going to a gay club for the first time to try to experiment and only noticing the hot (non-trans) girls around you. Or going to a lunch date with a girl you really like but your attention is more on the hot guys sitting a table over. It's really weird how out of control it is sometimes lol. It can really change on a dime too.


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Old 06-24-2016, 12:48 PM   #116
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There are actual bisexual people of course, but a lot of gays especially when younger use calling themselves bi as a stepping stone to admitting they're just plain gay.

I certainly did.

To a lot of young gays undergoing the process of self-acceptance, "coming out" as bi is easier than coming out as fully gay, because that leaves an opening where you could conceivably still end up with a woman and be "normal".

And I agree with spideyboy that a lot of terms like "fluid", "pansexual", etc. all basically mean the same thing as bisexual and come off like people wanting to be special snowflakes.

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Old 06-24-2016, 12:57 PM   #117
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Know people use it as a stepping stone. Actually makes it really, really hard for us who are real bisexuals because due to that not many believe us.

I will say I don't understand using many labels either. But, think what I described is what people mean by fluid.... I think... I just use bi, it's easier.

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I never saw the point of people redefining bisexual as "fluid" or "pansexual" unless this means you are attracted to/wanting to have sex with things other than humans.

There are of course gradients of completely heterosexual to completely homosexual with bisexual dead in the middle but it does not make it "fluid." It just makes you slightly more on one side or the other. It's not a new thing either. Kinsey has a scale and everything for this.

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I don't think it's hard to understand at all.
Sexuality isn't only about whom you have sex with, it's about whom you connect with on a deep level and fall in love. If someone can do that with either sexes I totally understand it because both sexes have appealing physical and intellectual qualities.
I have to agree with spidey though, this making up of new labels for something that is already aptly described is indicative of someone either in some form of denial or just downright desperate for attention. Either way, it's silly.

totally... I completely understand the concept of bi.. it's not nor ever been a blanket statement of "I swing both ways" a true bi person will always say they find both sexes attractive it just depends on the person.. and ultimately its "the person" they fall for. not the gender... why "sexually fluid" is acted as if its different by some i will never be able to wrap my head around. that's the part that is hard to understand and frankly doesn't make any sense. It's literally the same thing. People just don't want to be called "bi"

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Old 06-24-2016, 01:36 PM   #120
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I never saw the point of people redefining bisexual as "fluid" or "pansexual" unless this means you are attracted to/wanting to have sex with things other than humans.

There are of course gradients of completely heterosexual to completely homosexual with bisexual dead in the middle but it does not make it "fluid." It just makes you slightly more on one side or the other. It's not a new thing either. Kinsey has a scale and everything for this.
Pansexual is like basically a subset of being Bisexual. Bisexual implies you swing both ways with men and women but doesn't necessarily mean you're open to trans men and women (if i understand it right) Pansexual means you're pretty much open to anything as long as you're attracted to it... gay men, straight men, gay women, straight women, trans men, trans women, twinks, daddies, cougars, non gender conforment, people of walmart.. you're open to it.

I think people need to understand that .. and why i'm not a fan of the acronyms outside of LGBT. Just about anything outside of that is a sub-category of deeper meaning ... for instance the "Queer community" is basically just an artistic freedom of expression, non conforming part of the Gay community... ..

Pansexual, omnisexual, Twin Spirited, etc... that's all subcategories of being bisexual.

I'm fine if you want to further explain yourself with a subcategory.. but if you're pansexual don't pretend you're not bi.. and if you label yourself queer don't pretend you're not gay.

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So, I um...



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*unzips*

I think it might be best if you all left the room.
Meh. A little too hairy for me.

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Old 06-24-2016, 02:19 PM   #122
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he's got nice hair. body hair use to gross me out when i was younger.. but now that im older i love it. as long as they don't have thick black body hair especially back and shoulders

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Pansexual is like basically a subset of being Bisexual. Bisexual implies you swing both ways with men and women but doesn't necessarily mean you're open to trans men and women (if i understand it right) Pansexual means you're pretty much open to anything as long as you're attracted to it... gay men, straight men, gay women, straight women, trans men, trans women, twinks, daddies, cougars, non gender conforment, people of walmart.. you're open to it.

I think people need to understand that .. and why i'm not a fan of the acronyms outside of LGBT. Just about anything outside of that is a sub-category of deeper meaning ... for instance the "Queer community" is basically just an artistic freedom of expression, non conforming part of the Gay community... ..

Pansexual, omnisexual, Twin Spirited, etc... that's all subcategories of being bisexual.

I'm fine if you want to further explain yourself with a subcategory.. but if you're pansexual don't pretend you're not bi.. and if you label yourself queer don't pretend you're not gay.
I get that, particularly with transexual people but to me it still comes down to you are bisexual and just don't see transsexual people as truly a different gender than the one they were born as and for whatever reason do not have an interest in them.

Being outside the LGBT community and looking in, I can see a lot of the same things that community claims about heterosexuals reflected in the mindset of many people in extreme sides. Either you're gay or straight. Being bisexual is seen as being in denial, being transgender by some is seen as being abnormal to being a freak and if you are anything but one clearly defined preference then you aren't being true to yourself.

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I get that, particularly with transexual people but it still comes down to you are bisexual and just don't see transsexual people as truly a different gender than the one they were born as.
oh totally. as i said, its just a sub-category with some small extra definition.. people who are pansexual shouldn't pretend they arn't bi

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Is it true there's a gay character in the new Independence Day movie?

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