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Old 05-30-2017, 04:57 AM   #1
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Default Alternate history: what if Hillary had won?

Let's have fun with this. As usual, all the usual rules apply here for the hype, no swearing, no trolling etc. also, try to avoid making anyone the messiah.

President Clinton II
- first major success is making any gun stronger than a pistol illegal. It's her Obama/marriage equality moment. Widely considered impossible but ultimately people realise it was a good thing. Crime falls, distrust in the police fall
- controversy starts when she targets some Mexicans for deportation. This is seen as bad by both sides. The left hate it and wish Sanders had gotten in and the right wish she had gotten further. Clinton is often targeted by fox news' new pundit, Donald Trump
- the popular meme at the time is downbeat bill, as papps take a photo of Bill surrounded by the other first wives. People gossip that bill is trying to steal Hillary's limelight
- Tim Kaine is involved in a controversy, ultimately ending in him quitting and being replaced by Elizabeth Warren, after he is found to be charging people to have an audience with Hillary. People talk of impeachment and that China helped get her elected but ultimately they don't go anywhere.
- in the end, she retired and only occasionally rears her head for comments on women's issues. She lives on a ranch and occasionally is visited by her closest companion while in the top job, Angela Merkel

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Old 05-30-2017, 01:13 PM   #2
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Comey deciding the fate of the nation takes priority over his Republican ties reveals evidence of Russian collusion to weaken Hilary's campaign.
With Congress forced to investigate these allegations reports about Trump's Campaign and it's ties to Russia upsets the Republicans who recognise the threat Trump poses to the party and do the unexpected by eventually submitting to Hilary rightfully understanding it's a damage limiting exercise to save the Republican Parties grasp on power.
Getting into office Hilary learns the truth and begins solidifying the support of NATO to firmly make sure Putin never tried this again.

As to how you probably have a better idea about that than me!��

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Old 05-30-2017, 02:24 PM   #3
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We would have at least 4 more years of Benghazi and email servers hearings

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Old 05-30-2017, 02:33 PM   #4
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Comey would still be fired, though.

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Old 05-30-2017, 03:34 PM   #5
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In a weird way, I'm glad Trump won because he's set such a bad precedent and Republicans refusing to dig further means they have no further ground to stand on if a future Democratic candidate even does a tenth of what he is doing.


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Old 05-30-2017, 05:04 PM   #6
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She would've been impeached already.

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Old 05-30-2017, 06:05 PM   #7
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In a weird way, I'm glad Trump won because he's set such a bad precedent and Republicans refusing to dig further means they have no further ground to stand on if a future Democratic candidate even does a tenth of what he is doing.
Plus it also kept him (and probably his supporters) from claiming he could have done a much better job than Hilary.

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Old 05-30-2017, 06:53 PM   #8
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If Hillary would have won, the Republicans secretly would breathe a sigh of relief that they wouldn't have to govern, continue being the party of obstruction, and fund raising off Hillary hate.

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Old 05-30-2017, 09:36 PM   #9
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Let's have fun with this. As usual, all the usual rules apply here for the hype, no swearing, no trolling etc. also, try to avoid making anyone the messiah.

President Clinton II
- first major success is making any gun stronger than a pistol illegal. It's her Obama/marriage equality moment. Widely considered impossible but ultimately people realise it was a good thing. Crime falls, distrust in the police fall
- controversy starts when she targets some Mexicans for deportation. This is seen as bad by both sides. The left hate it and wish Sanders had gotten in and the right wish she had gotten further. Clinton is often targeted by fox news' new pundit, Donald Trump
- the popular meme at the time is downbeat bill, as papps take a photo of Bill surrounded by the other first wives. People gossip that bill is trying to steal Hillary's limelight
- Tim Kaine is involved in a controversy, ultimately ending in him quitting and being replaced by Elizabeth Warren, after he is found to be charging people to have an audience with Hillary. People talk of impeachment and that China helped get her elected but ultimately they don't go anywhere.
- in the end, she retired and only occasionally rears her head for comments on women's issues. She lives on a ranch and occasionally is visited by her closest companion while in the top job, Angela Merkel
I don't think you understand how firearms works. Or American politics if you think Hillary Clinton could get gun laws passed in this climate.

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Old 07-20-2017, 03:48 PM   #10
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What if Hillary had won?
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Old 07-20-2017, 04:08 PM   #11
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She would've been impeached already.
Yeah for something trivial, like for sending an annoying email chain letter.

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Old 07-20-2017, 04:10 PM   #12
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But seriously she would've continued Obama's moderate centrist policies.

And republicans would be pretending like she's the anti-christ calling for violent revolt.

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Old 07-21-2017, 01:09 AM   #13
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I dunno. From what I watched on documentary, sue me I wasn't around when that went down.... (lol) Bill Clinton 1st year was horrible and Whitewater scandal followed them throughout his time as POTUS. Clinton's have had tons of baggage with all the sexual allegations on Bill, and then the email scandal situation, covering up evidence, etc. It wouldn't have been the circus that Trump has been but would have been no picnic. Why it had to be career politician of HC versus other end of spectrum with celebrity billionaire Trump ehh

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Old 07-21-2017, 09:58 AM   #14
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I think for the most part more of the last 4-8 years.

We would probably gradually more military involvement in Syria (at least multiple if not longer bombing campaigns over the chemical attack, ground forces not long after) and more conflict, certainly bigger sanctions quickly, with Russia for its helping Assad and Trump.

Investigations into Russia/Trump would drain a lot of the energy from Benghazi investigations, more likely the Republicans would just say move on from both.

You might have gotten a small to medium infrastructure-work program.

Her debt-free college proposal probably would pass at least by her second year.

Pushing for gun control would get some attention but not lead to much other than expanding background checks.

A serious, moderate commission would look at and then propose reforms re: police violence but most of the reforms would get stalled.

Would share or overtake the spotlight with Merkel re: welcoming refugees (and use the crisis to justify more military strikes on Syria) but quickly gain resentment from Europeans as too much more like Bush rather than Obama.

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Old 07-24-2017, 11:10 PM   #15
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Comey would still be fired, though.
Why do you say that?

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Old 07-25-2017, 12:11 AM   #16
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Why do you say that?
Grandstanding or not, whether it was Republicans hounding him on his incompetence/inadequacy or Democrats continuously concerned every time Comey dropped a bomb that led nowhere, it seemed clear from the media the decision would remain bipartisan.

It would definitely be suspect of Hillary to keep him around after all the damage that was done.

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Old 07-25-2017, 02:07 AM   #17
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Non stop Benghazi and email server investigations plus whatever was the right wing outrage thing of the day

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Old 07-25-2017, 12:13 PM   #18
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She would be even more smug and elitist.

Nothing would change with a R congress and senate. A turd is better than Trump but I wasn't eager to vote for either.

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Old 07-26-2017, 09:27 AM   #19
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The best thing about if Clinton won, especially if she won by a lot, is it what take away some of the power of the Sanders wing of the party.

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Old 07-27-2017, 07:02 AM   #20
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Whoever comes in the power, but I don't think that Global Piece can be established.

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Old 07-27-2017, 10:41 AM   #21
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first major success is making any gun stronger than a pistol illegal. It's her Obama/marriage equality moment.
Marriage equality was, while supported by Obama, passed by the Supreme Court; major regulations and even bans of guns could indeed have been done by the court with even one Clinton-appointed justice replacement and especially with two.

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Old 07-27-2017, 12:38 PM   #22
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The best thing about if Clinton won, especially if she won by a lot, is it what take away some of the power of the Sanders wing of the party.
sanders wing lol there is no sanders wing of party.dem part is center right neoliberal party whild gop is far right party.both are prowall street,and prowar.

your just upset it's not clinton screwing over the 99% and going to war.

with obamacare we are largely fighting over plan that largely came from conservatives who liked it untill a black neoliberal decered to adopt it.

since 1992 only one wing of party.the clinton wing even though others try to pretend they aren't.

of course domestic concerns may not matters when clinton party get wwIII.

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sanders wing lol there is no sanders wing of party.dem part is center right neoliberal party whild gop is far right party.both are prowall street,and prowar.

your just upset it's not clinton screwing over the 99% and going to war.

with obamacare we are largely fighting over plan that largely came from conservatives who liked it untill a black neoliberal decered to adopt it.

since 1992 only one wing of party.the clinton wing even though others try to pretend they aren't.

of course domestic concerns may not matters when clinton party get wwIII.

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Old 08-04-2017, 12:29 PM   #24
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World War 3 would start after a relationship with Russia would completely deteriorate, and with the situation in Syria it wouldn't be a pretty sight.

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Old 08-04-2017, 12:49 PM   #25
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Lots of distant relationships could have been saved on Facebook had Clinton won.

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