Earth 2 (It's like Earth, but 2)

[Artistsean]

I like that there is only one Darksied and stuff. Making multiple Earths with
multiple versions of the ultimate Evil takes away from the one Darkseid. Earth 2
would have taken away from there being Superman but they killed him off. James
Robinson has said this about Speedy calling himself Red Arrow too, and I think it
was him or someone else who said it about the sidekicks. That Making multiple
versions of Superman (Superboy, Supergirl, Superboy Prime, Superman of Earth 2,
Krypto, Streaky the cat, etc) too away from Superman being the last son of Krypton
and the ultimate superhero. James definitely said making Roy Harper Red Arrow
took away from Green Arrow. Said this guy is meant to be the best archer on Earth
and then so is Roy? I get that, so making the New Gods exist outside of time is
fine by me. But they can't do stories like "Alternate World where Darksied has taken
control of Earth and Superman is his prisoner and Batman is the leader of the rebels."

Originally Posted by Number 6

Oh yeah, like a true hard reboot
and bring everybody back to their origins ala JL and AC? I could see the warrant to
that.

Comicvine's G-Man said that he thought Detective Comics should have gone the
Action Comics rout and been the past tales of Batman in his early days. He said
because it could fill in the gaps and let people know what happened and what didn't.
When did Batman first meet the Joker? When did Robin meet the Riddler? Stuff
like that. I could see him being designed something similar to this too (minus the guns)
Or maybe show why he doesn't use guns.

[Primal Slayer]

Originally Posted by Artistsean

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

according to James Robinson:
When asked why she has a red streak in her black hair (and why she has black hair instead of blond) he said he couldn't say. Maybe because it would reveal who the father was.

When asked if the father has already been seen he said: No. (pretty sure.) But he talked about it like she does have a father.

When asked if she is using Wonder Woman's lasso he said: Yes, she turned it around and is holding the noose part and using it like a whip. And I think he said it was altered by Apocalyptian technology.

When asked does Fury know Wonder Woman was her mother he said: Yes.

He also said that Steppenwolf (spelling?) is like her father, treats her like that. He takes joy in the fact that he is raising Wonder Woman's daughter after he murdered her. Also he is not her real father, he said someone was worried and asked him "Wonder Woman and Steppenwolf didn't sleep together did they?"

When asked if she has a civilian name he said: Yes. She is a combination of various characters like he tried to do with the Atom or Red Tornado. But he couldn't say who he used besides the original Fury (daughter of Steve Trevor and Wonder Woman and in his opinion a bland character), and he tried to make her like the Female Furies from Apocalypse but different and not like Barda.

Also Dherain was meant to be some European (I think he said) country that he thought might break away during the massive war. King Marov wasn't taken from any current DC character.

And he says next issue starts the introduction of Dr. Fate!


He has also said that Darksied and Apocalypse who attacked here in Earth 2 is the same Darksied and Apocalypse who attacked in New 52 JLA. He thought implying that there were multiple versions of Darksied out there was too much and took away from his character. So the New Gods and Apocalypse (to James anyway) exist outside of space and time or in their own dimension, or something. So does that mean that this Steppenwolf is the new Steppenwolf? Does he fit in with the new Darksied and new Orion (from Wonder Woman)? And also does this mean that Steppenwolf wont be in the rest of the New 52 stuff because he is trapped in Earth 2?

Where did he say all of this?

[Artistsean]

Originally Posted by Primal Slayer

Where did he say all of this?

On Comicvine.com's podcast on Friday. He occasionally goes there and talks about his comics, and answers questions from fans.
http://www.comicvine.com/podcast/

[Primal Slayer]

oh ok, thanks

[Number 6]

I don't really think I understand how having an alternate dimension version of any character diminishes said character. There's so many Elseworlds versions of these characters that I find the idea kind of silly. Being the sole version of a character doesn't somehow make a character more meaningful or anything in my view, it all comes down to writing and presentation.

And I think, too, another issue with that is that it really limits the use of those characters. That may be a good thing, but if some writer has a good idea for a story with the New Gods in an alt universe, but can't use Steppenwolf because he's stuck on Earth 2. You can easily say the same for a ****** story being avoided because of that, but eh, I don't know, seems like two much of a double-edged sword for my tastes.

[Hush]

Well having one version of certain characters makes sense to me because then when that character arrives you know some serious **** is going down and it makes the universe as a whole seem more shared, which is something I miss greatly from the DCU.

[Artistsean]

I get it too. Robinson explained his thinking on the podcasts so that helped. I think James Robinson stated it like this, Darkseid is like the Devil. The ultimate evil.
For him to be ultimate there should only be one. It lessens how powerful and dangerous he is if there is more than one version of the devil. Darkseid is so evil and powerful that he is sort of the most dangerous living creature in multiple universes (Earth New 52 and Earth 2, and probably others including his own New Gods universe).
It is a double-edged sword because it does eliminate those stories like Rock of Ages (I think it was called) and other alternate reality stories where maybe Darkseid was good or took over Earth.
But he recently showed up in Batman Beyond. Which isn't exactly an in continuity book, so maybe the comics that aren't labeled New 52 will still be able to do this.

And maybe in the regular New 52 universe there is only one Darkseid, but they can do alternate universe comics that aren't part of the continuity or something. Just my idea. Maybe the What If stories could just be stories and not alternate universes or something.