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Old 12-06-2011, 07:00 PM   #1
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EXCLUSIVE: Director Patty Jenkins is leaving Thor 2. Best known for directing Charlize Theron to an Oscar in Monster and the pilot of AMC’s The Killing, Jenkins had been set to helm the film in late September. I’m told that Marvel Studios is already talking to agencies as it canvasses for a new director, something that is expected to happen quickly. Her exit had to do with creative differences, but the feeling is that she’ll probably end up working on one of these superhero films, but perhaps not on a sequel. Marvel will have to move fast because it has to meet a July 26, 2013 release date for the sequel, which brings back Chris Hemsworth as the hammer-wielding superhero, and Thor co-writer Don Payne is writing the script. The Kenneth Branagh-directed original grossed $448 million worldwide and launched the star of Hemsworth, who reprised Thor in The Avengers and then played the latter title role opposite Kristen Stewart and Charlize Theron in Snow White and the Huntsman for Universal.
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Old 12-06-2011, 07:10 PM   #2
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That was unexpected! I wonder who'll be the next choice.

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Old 12-06-2011, 07:31 PM   #3
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Well, since I didn't think she was the right choice for Thor 2, I'm not that disappointed to see her leaving this film. However, I do believe that with the director's chair once again vacant, that they should consider postponing the release date instead of rushing it to meet the May of 2013 deadline. The director is a very important position in a movie and they must take their time finding the right person before they start shooting.

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Old 12-06-2011, 07:34 PM   #4
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Well, since I didn't think she was the right choice for Thor 2, I'm not that disappointed to see her leaving this film. However, I do believe that with the director's chair once again vacant, that they should consider postponing the release date instead of rushing it to meet the May of 2013 deadline. The director is a very important position in a movie and they must take their time finding the right person before they start shooting.
But it's already been postponed for November 15th, 2013.

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I'd really love to know what these "creative differences" always are.

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I'd really love to know what these "creative differences" always are.
Same here. I wonder if Kevin Feige was being too demanding again.

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Same here. I wonder if Kevin Feige was being too demanding again.
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I feel like it wouldn't matter what directors Marvel gets in general for their movies since they have a specific vision for them so any creative input from the directors wouldn't be so huge.

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Old 12-06-2011, 08:17 PM   #10
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I feel like it wouldn't matter what directors Marvel gets in general for their movies since they have a specific vision for them so any creative input from the directors wouldn't be so huge.
This is what it boils down to.
This was HIGHLY unexpected.



Hey folks How many other Marvel movies have directors that have dropped out? (besides X3)

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Old 12-06-2011, 08:21 PM   #11
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Haven't seen any of her work... so its not much of a loss to me.

Lets hope they can find a great replacement and fast.

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I'd really love to know what these "creative differences" always are.
- I have had a lot of ideas for the movie.
- Leave them at the door, this is going to be a Marvel movie. All the ideas have been already listed in this piece of paper. Read them, memorize them, execute them.



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My personal guess is that Branagh himself needs space at this point in his life. He just didn't seem like he was ready to make another major commitment so soon. Let him go do some other smaller stuff if that's where his heart is, I say. Maybe by Thor 3 he'd be refreshed enough to return?
I think Branagh has always had his space. Which is why I believe he's not too excited about doing a movie that is more a product than a personal film. I'm sure he enjoyed the experience but not enough to spend another couple of years involved in a sequel.

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Wow that came outta nowhere.

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You'd figure all these 'creative differences' stuff would get ironed out before the director was hired. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? See if they're all sympatico on what film they want to make.

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You'd figure all these 'creative differences' stuff would get ironed out before the director was hired. Isn't that what they're supposed to do? See if they're all sympatico on what film they want to make.
It's impossible to figure out every single detail about the movie the person wants to make before hiring any cast or crew. Especially with a movie that's an adaptation and a sequel.

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Talented director stepping down from a project due to "creative differences" is NEVER a good sign.

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I don't how this can be seen as a good or bad sign, since we know nothing at all about the 'creative differences''.

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That sucks. She seemed like an unorthodox, but promising director to take on the material and such. (And I think her involvement would get some great actors and encourage the ones under contract like Hemsworth, Portman and Hiddleston to do even better.)

Marvel Studios really needs to allow some creative freedom beyond the buildup for Avengers 2. Let's hope the next director actually makes it to filming and post-production.

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Why is it always "creative differences" when it comes to the Marvel films?

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Why is it always "creative differences" when it comes to the Marvel films?
Marvel seems to want things their way or nothing. Not to say that's a completely bad thing but then why hire creative talent only to force them into a certain mold of things?

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Why is it always "creative differences" when it comes to the Marvel films?
Many possibilities come to mind. But the one I tend to favor is that directors usually like to be the one's with the vision and when you see the movie it is that director's vision you are seeing. However in this case Marvel has their own creative vision and they want directors who are talented and like-minded with regards to bringing their vision to life.

I think usually stuff like this is ironed out before the director is even hired but apparently sometimes things can crop up even after hiring. When that happens it looks like poor communication was going on behind the scenes(possibly a fault of both parties but Marvel as the owner & one driving this project is the more responsible party). That said, Vaughn was originally on Thor1 and then left and was replaced by Branagh. It's not an X-Men 3 scenario here.

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Why is it always "creative differences" when it comes to the Marvel films?
Because when you hire someone to do a job without overseeing how they're going to do it and they do a piss poor job, you get Green Lantern type results.


Whether people bad mouth Marvel and Feige (I've done it myself), they've made hits. They're 5 for 5, not one movie has been a flop or got universal bashing from critics.

This Patty Jenkins thing, sorry, I was never sold on her.

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Well, I'm hoping that Kenneth Branaugh will have room in his schedule to direct this movie, or maybe Marvel could be patient and allow for room to allow Branaugh to commit to the project. He just has a knack for drawing out some pretty intense performances from his actors. I think a lot of it has to do with his background in Shakespearian theater and all in dramatic scenes from the Bard's works. If there is going to be any Loki/Odin confrontations, and logic tells me there will, Mr. Branaugh can most certainly guide such an emotionally driven scene. In fact in Thor when Odin banishes Thor that was a pretty powerful thing for all the actors involved. Imagine what Loki's humbling would be like if you could be there to see it being filmed with Kenneth Branaugh in the director's chair.
Me too, I would love for Branagh to come back because what he did with the first movie is what made enjoy so much, I was actually very dissapointed to learn he wouldnt be directing Thor 2.

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Because when you hire someone to do a job without overseeing how they're going to do it and they do a piss poor job, you get Green Lantern type results.


Whether people bad mouth Marvel and Feige (I've done it myself), they've made hits. They're 5 for 5, not one movie has been a flop or got universal bashing from critics.

This Patty Jenkins thing, sorry, I was never sold on her.
Please! So every director who has been left to tell his vision has put out GL level type movies? God the defense of MS is ridiculous sometimes. Nolan was left to his own devices on the sequel to BB and we got TDK, not to mention I could mention COUNTLESS other movies which turned out superb because the studio left the directors to deliver THEIR OWN vision.

And in actuality, WB meddled A LOT with GL, there is a whole different cut of the movie out there on the cutting room floor. Interfering with movies gets you Green Lantern, the FF movies, X3, Wolverine, Clash Of The Titans, etc. NOT interfering with them gets you The Terminator, Terminator 2, Gladiator, TDK, Inception and countless, countless quality movies.

I just dont want Thor 2 to turn out like IM2 which was a BIG step down from IM1.

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Because when you hire someone to do a job without overseeing how they're going to do it and they do a piss poor job, you get Green Lantern type results.
Except for TDK. And Batman 89. And XMFC. And Raimi's Spider-Man series. And Donner's Superman series. And Singer's X-Men. And a relatively infinite number of movies outside the superhero genre.


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Whether people bad mouth Marvel and Feige (I've done it myself), they've made hits. They're 5 for 5, not one movie has been a flop or got universal bashing from critics.
True, no MS movie is a certified flop, nor has any of them been bashed by critical consensus; but it *is* true that Marvel have so far only managed to strike Top 10 superhero gold with Iron Man; *not* Cap, Thor, or Hulk. IM 1 & 2 are the only ones in boxofficemojo's Top 10 superhero films; Thor sits at #15, Cap at #17, and TIH at #24.

So the "Marvel Studios/Kevin Feige formula" has been good for one certified blockbuster franchise; and even it worked best because Favreau was given free rein (at least in the first film). The tight leashes on Johnston, Leterrier and Branagh have yielded less favorable results.

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True, no MS movie is a certified flop, nor has any of them been bashed by critical consensus; but it *is* true that Marvel have so far only managed to strike Top 10 superhero gold with Iron Man; *not* Cap, Thor, or Hulk. IM 1 & 2 are the only ones in boxofficemojo's Top 10 superhero films; Thor sits at #15, Cap at #17, and TIH at #24.

So the "Marvel Studios/Kevin Feige formula" has been good for one certified blockbuster franchise; and even it worked best because Favreau was given free rein (at least in the first film). The tight leashes on Johnston, Leterrier and Branagh have yielded less favorable results.
That's not really a good argument looking at the box office comparisons.

Of the movies that have made more than Thor/Cap domestically.....

-4 Batman movies
-3 Spider-Man movies
-2 X-Men movies
-2 Iron Man movies
-1 Superman movie
-2 Men in Black/Will Smith movies
-300

It should be noted that Thor made more worldwide than Superman Returns, Batman Begins/Forever, X2, and pretty similar money to MIB2, 300, and X-Men 3. Captain America also did pretty well considering it was released at the same time as Harry Potter and had some stiff competition in August. Thor and Cap are big successes, there is no way around that. Even moreso considering both characters weren't very popular and Kevin Feige's touch has made them into quality franchises that people care about. Nobody knew much about The Avengers before 2008. In the years after Iron Man, it has become one of the most anticipated movies. Both movies made more than First Class too.


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Also, what are these 'tight leashes' that everybody keeps talking about? You people continue to say these things without any knowledge of how Marvel conducts business. Iron Man 2 'suffered' because Marvel allowed Justin Theroux to be hired as writer. Everything else about that movie was great. The only things that suffered in Cap and Thor was they had to fit into the Avengers storyline. I'm sorry but if you think Marvel is going to let Favs do a 'Demon in a Bottle' storyline in it's most important summer blockbuster, you're insane.

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