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Old 03-12-2012, 02:25 PM   #751
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But if he was completely incompetent in the second movie, why would anyone buy him as a threat in the third? Hammer being angry wouldn't make him more competent. He may have motive to be a more threatening villain, but he doesn't seem have real capability that would make him a threat to Iron Man.
Like i said, he could have a benefactor backing him up like he was to Vanko. He has the motive, the thirst for revenge, but not the means. In comes the Ten Rings. Or something, i dunno.

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But he never really showed any real competence in Iron Man 2, his tech was junk and even his big ultimate weapon was a total dud. Just because he is vengeful doesn't make him competent.

Frankly I would rather see a new villain rather then Hammer again. I don't want the Iron Man movies to fall into the trap the Superman movies did, where Lex and Zod are the only villains from the comics who show up and every other villain is left by the wayside.
Yeah, but Hammer will not works as the villain but like a shadow figure, maybe he let use his technology or laboratories to create the Extremis. I don't know, there are so much ideas for bring back, also in a minor role, Hammer!

And, well, if you remember well Maya will in the end helps the Mandarin.

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But he never really showed any real competence in Iron Man 2, his tech was junk and even his big ultimate weapon was a total dud. Just because he is vengeful doesn't make him competent.

I think we're going round in circles here so I'll say this and move on......

You keep talking about Hammer's incompetence [and I get that to a degree because he was in certain portions of the movie] but anyone who manages to not only build Hammer Advanced Weapons Systems to become the main U.S. government defense contractor, as well as having the rescources [and balls] to spring such a high profile prisoner as Vanko out of jail has to have something about them.

It's certainly nothing that cant be built on, letting Sam exhibit a real ruthless streak [one that we saw glimpes of in IM2]. And it would be plausable.

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I think we're going round in circles here so I'll say this and move on......

You keep talking about Hammer's incompetence [and I get that to a degree because he was in certain portions of the movie] but anyone who manages to not only build Hammer Advanced Weapons Systems to become the main U.S. government defense contractor, as well as having the rescources [and balls] to spring such a high profile prisoner as Vanko out of jail has to have something about them.

It's certainly nothing that cant be built on, letting Sam exhibit a real ruthless streak [one that we saw glimpes of in IM2]. And it would be plausable.

Plus Hammer and the Ten Rings are already linked together. That makes two films with build up to a main baddie. Shane Black saying he doesn't want to use Mandarin because he's a "racist stereotype" is just lazy. So are hundreds of comic book characters from earliest days onward.

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All this Justin Hammer talk makes me want to watch a Sam Rockwell movie. Hmmm Confessions of a Dangerous Mind me thinks!

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don't know if this has been posted but

Extremis anyone?

http://latino-review.com/2012/03/11/...n-man-3-about/

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I could easily see Justin Hammer hooking up with someone like Ghost or Spymaster or Madame Masque in prison. Especially since, as an ultra-rich uber-powerful defense contractor, he's bound to be coddled in a country-club "prison" instead of some supermax, in with general pop.

I think Hammer would make a great returning mastermind to match wits with Tony.


Oh, and also I think a few of you may have taken the Val Kilmer joke a little too literally...

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Old 03-13-2012, 06:20 AM   #759
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You don't get it do you? This isn't "good cop-bad cop". This is *** and New Yorker. You're in a lot of trouble.

Man that movie has some of the best dialogue ever written.

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Ahh God I hope the dialogue is as good as KKBB. It could blow the first two IM's banter out of the water, and Favs was all about giving fun dialogue in those.

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Old 03-13-2012, 06:38 AM   #761
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If there is anything Shane Black is a master at, it's sharp dialogue and being genre savvy.

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^ This. Lethal Weapon is a classic because of his dialogue.

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Old 03-13-2012, 06:57 AM   #763
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haha yea. I also really loved Last Action Hero. I don't care what anyone says, it's one of the greatest satires ever made. And the dialogue is gold.

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I could easily see Justin Hammer hooking up with someone like Ghost or Spymaster or Madame Masque in prison. Especially since, as an ultra-rich uber-powerful defense contractor, he's bound to be coddled in a country-club "prison" instead of some supermax, in with general pop.

I think Hammer would make a great returning mastermind to match wits with Tony.


Oh, and also I think a few of you may have taken the Val Kilmer joke a little too literally...
I wanna see Kilmer as a giant floating head

Also, your avy is awesome.

In regards to Cap's alleged proposal of nanobots to Stark in The Avengers leading into IM3, what do you make of that?

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Old 03-14-2012, 11:06 AM   #765
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The Extremis Rumor is just that until proven otherwise .

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Old 03-15-2012, 03:40 AM   #766
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There's a part of me who wants to see Justin Hammer back only because I felt his final scene was..anti-climatic. That and I love Sam Rockwell. But at the same time, I don't want his return to be contrived.

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Old 03-15-2012, 10:46 PM   #767
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Oblivion has been move from mid July to later April, a week before Iron Man 3. Could this be another Fast Five/Thor debacle?

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Debacle? Not sure what you're talking about. If I remember correctly, Thor made nearly half a billion dollars. Nothing to lament there.

And I seriously wouldn't worry too much about IM3. It'll make its money.

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I meant that Universal stealing Marvel Studios' thunder in terms of opening the summer.

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The Extremis Rumor is just that until proven otherwise .
I wouldn't even call it a rumor

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I meant that Universal stealing Marvel Studios' thunder in terms of opening the summer.

I don't think IM needs to worry about Oblivion the week before as much as it does the ass-kicking it's likely to take over the next two weekends from Pacific Rim and Trek 2. Not to mention Fast 6....speaking of.

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Oblivion has been move from mid July to later April, a week before Iron Man 3. Could this be another Fast Five/Thor debacle?
Fast Five the the latest installment of a proven franchise. Oblivion is nothing. We get anywhere between 60 - 100 theatrical releases between April and July, no movie opens without some competition.


And what exactly did Fast Five do to Thor? It still opened as the #1 movie for it's weekend.

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I don't know if that was posted: http://www.featurefilmcasting.com/20...dios-iron.html

Iron Man 3

Director: Shane Black
Writers: Shane Black with Drew Pearce
Producers: Kevin Feige, Avi Arad
Executive Producers: Louis D'Esposito, Stan Lee

Cast:
Robert Downey Jr. (Tony Stark/Iron Man)
Gwyneth Paltrow (Virginia "Pepper" Potts)
Don Cheadle (James "Rhodey" Rhodes/War Machine)
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I don't know if that was posted: http://www.featurefilmcasting.com/20...dios-iron.html

Iron Man 3

Director: Shane Black
Writers: Shane Black with Drew Pearce
Producers: Kevin Feige, Avi Arad
Executive Producers: Louis D'Esposito, Stan Lee

Cast:
Robert Downey Jr. (Tony Stark/Iron Man)
Gwyneth Paltrow (Virginia "Pepper" Potts)
Don Cheadle (James "Rhodey" Rhodes/War Machine)
Scarlett Johansson (Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow)
Hmm, I know Feige said they wanted to use the Hellicarrier set again, guess that means Black Widow will be making another appearance again.

Plus she's got a 9-pic contract with Marvel Studios, so guess this will count as one of them.

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I also remember reading that Iron Man 3 was supposed to be like a techno spy-thriller or something like that. If that still stands, then Widow appearing makes perfect sense.

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