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Old 03-15-2014, 07:07 PM   #426
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Old 03-15-2014, 07:20 PM   #427
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I feel we will get an "avengers assemble" in this movie I was hoping they would be the final lines of tws , and hopefully an "ultron I would have words with thee" as well

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So any word on what was shown for AoU in the marvel special? There are already pics of the GotG stuff

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Its on tuesday is it not?

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Yes sir. Some people from another site saw it early and have pics

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Ooohhh... thats exciting then.

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Regarding the balancing of the characters, I hope Thor gets a bigger role and more development this time.

Although I thought the first film did a great job balancing its characters overall, I took issues with the way they incorporated Thor. To me, he never felt like an Avenger, but more like someone who was helping out the Avengers. I can't really explain it, but I never felt like I got in his head as much as I did with Tony/Steve/Natasha/Bruce. He felt "just there" because Loki was there. With the four other Avengers I just brought up, I not only felt I more I was in their head but I also felt they had more of an established relationship and dynamic.

Even Hawkeye felt more like a team member than Thor did. He kinda had the same problems I just brought up, but I gave him more of a pass because 1) He isn't as major of an Avenger as Thor is and 2) He had an established relationship/dynamic with the Black Widow, which made him feel more "in" the team.
I agree completely. Some more personal moments with the others would help alleviate this issue. Iron Man and Cap fighting him at the beginning also contributed to him feeling like an outsider, IMO.

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Iron Man's line in Avengers "Call it Captain" was about the only clue that Cap's the leader

He didn't even get to say "Avengers Assemble!" Iron Man will prob. say it in AoU
Not at all. He was pretty much built up to be the leader from the very beginning. It's clear that Fury meant for him to lead the Avengers from the start. He also subtly earned the respect of the rest of the team throughout the movie.

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Couldnt they just make em Inhumans? Marvel owns the rights to Inhumans right?
Then your back to "so why does genetic begoobery give Wanda magic powers?" They totally could make them Inhumans; it just means Wanda would need a power set that is something other than "knows magic".

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Old 03-15-2014, 09:37 PM   #434
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I'd rather Monica Rambeau. She's a more interesting character to me plus we'd get a female and a black superhero to add more diversity. 2 birds with 1 stone and all that.
She also has a more unique power set than Danvers.

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Cap WILL say "Avengers Assemble", no way Joss will let Iron Man say. He's a fanboy, just like us. I'm 100% sure he'll have Cap say it.

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I feel we will get an "avengers assemble" in this movie I was hoping they would be the final lines of tws , and hopefully an "ultron WE would have words with thee" as well
I want this as well

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Then your back to "so why does genetic begoobery give Wanda magic powers?" They totally could make them Inhumans; it just means Wanda would need a power set that is something other than "knows magic".
Well if they ARE going to introduce Dr. Strange sometime in the future they need to have magic at some point, why not start with Wanda?

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Cap WILL say "Avengers Assemble", no way Joss will let Iron Man say. He's a fanboy, just like us. I'm 100% sure he'll have Cap say it.
I heard someone say that exact same thing before the first one came out. lol

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Cap WILL say "Avengers Assemble", no way Joss will let Iron Man say. He's a fanboy, just like us. I'm 100% sure he'll have Cap say it.
You'd think he woulda had him say it in the first Avengers, considering it was the movie fanboys had been waiting their whole lives for

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Agreed. They're going to need everyone and their cousin in Avengers 3. I think these guys can handle it. By then most of the stories of the main players will have been told and A3 will be like a climax to that whole 3 phase arc.

Carol might cameo here and I'm sure she'll fully feature in Avengers 3. We'll need some more powerhouses like her and it will be great to have a woman on the front line.
I think these guys can handle it too, but they may need some super power allies. We'll see Vision, Wanda and Pietro soon as well as Doctor Strange. But if this was the team vs. Thanos:

The Avengers:
- Captain America
- Iron Man
- Thor
- The Hulk
- Black Widow
- Hawkeye
- Quicksilver
- Scarlet Witch
- Vision

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- Captain Marvel (Carol Danvers)
- Bucky
- Nick Fury
- Maria Hill
- War Machine/Iron Patriot
- Falcon
- Agent 13
- Ant Man (Scott Lang)

Not sure that would be enough to defeat Thanos, but we'll see. And this is without the Guardians of the Galaxy and any of Thor's Asgardian allies such as Sif, The Warriors Three and Heimdall. The reason I say this is because as I stated earlier, that lineup has a lot of regular humans, although some with special suits and weapons (Stark, Rhodey, Falcon, Hawkeye). Perhaps the combined superhuman abilities of Wanda, Pietro, Cap, Thor, Banner, Vision, Strange, Carol, Lang and Bucky will be more than enough to defeat Thanos.


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I was thinking, since both SW and QS are mutants as well as Avengers, thus giving both Marvel and Fox the rights to use these two characters, how about other X-Men who had membership with the Avengers? I know Wolverine and Beast have dual membership with both teams. What exempts Wolverine and Beast from allowing Marvel to claim partial movie rights over them?

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I think it has more to do with QS and SW being avengers from some of the original comics, and theyre most affiliated with the Avengers. Beast and especially wolverine became avengers later and are much more xmen affiliated.

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Same with Spider-Man being an Avenger but unfortunately it doesnt mean MArvel can use him

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I know who needs to be in this movie! only if it's a cameo appearance and the third one the one and only
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It would be nice, but I don't see it happening.

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Black Panther has always been my number one choice for a new team member after the first one. Then hank pym. And istead we are getting QS and SW. lol. I'm totally okay with that though. Still hoping for BP to get his chance to shine. The Avengers cartoon lineup was my dream team

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Maybe in AoU Cap's shield gets destroyed and the after credits scene is Stark telling Cap that to make him a new one they have to go to Wakanda. "We'll have to deal with the king, he's a bit of an eccentric"

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I think a reference to either him or Wakanda should be as far as they go.

I am conflicted on if I have a choice between a movie with Carol or a movie with T'Challa.

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Want Carol more, Need a stronger female Superhero presence. All we have is Black Widow who isnt REALLY a superhero

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