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Old 01-23-2018, 09:31 AM   #1
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Airs Friday Jan. 26th 9/8c on ABC
Mack, Yo-Yo and Flint fight to keep everyone alive by starting a revolution against the Kree.


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Old 01-24-2018, 11:09 AM   #2
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Airs Friday Jan. 26th 9/8c on ABC
Mack, Yo-Yo and Flint fight to keep everyone alive by starting a revolution against the Kree.


https://youtu.be/p75ifq7VfiE
(apologies if someone else started a thread and I couldn't find it)
Reminder, when you need to embed a video using the YT tags, all you need to put in between the tags is the video ID (not the full URL). in this case it would be the p75ifq7VfiE part of the URL so:

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Old 01-25-2018, 07:48 AM   #3
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2nd Promo


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So they wanna try and rebuild the Earth or something?

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Good episode i have feeling this arc is ending soon. Its gonna be interesting to see how they break the time loop.

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Old 01-27-2018, 12:41 AM   #6
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So they wanna try and rebuild the Earth or something?
No, They want to use Flint's powers to fix the Monolith rock that sent them to the future to start with & then they can go back in time again.

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Very cool episode. Good to see the good guys get a win, although we'll see next week. I'm guessing next week is the conclusion of the arc since, after that, we break for the Winter Olympics, I believe.

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No, They want to use Flint's powers to fix the Monolith rock that sent them to the future to start with & then they can go back in time again.
At this point Agent May remembers Robin mentioning Flint as being the key. They don't want him to do anything yet as they are still in instinct and survival mode and fighting virtually every second. Meanwhile Mac is trying to shield Flint in the Lighthouse.

I have to say oh come on about TV fights. Deke has at least 30 lbs on Daisy and his life or death fight hit doesn't flinch Sinara while Daisy's knock her back for a while. Technique can not do that much over sheer power.

I can't wait to make a second watching of this episode. But the promo for the next makes me fear a potential spoiler I tripped across by accident is true.

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Old 01-27-2018, 01:36 PM   #9
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I think I know who Kassius's seer is. It is a resurrected Ben the inhuman mind reader. Right before Kassius comes out to tell us that he has a seer of his own; look at the smock of the guy with the gloves. It looks bloody. He seems to be the Doctor that performs the resurrections. I wonder what are the limitations of such resurrections.

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Old 01-27-2018, 01:43 PM   #10
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Here is another thought. Look at the promo for the next episode. When Kassius is threatening to kill Yo Yo; does she appear to have died before. Her face is much more pale than previously seen. Could Kassius be killing and resurrecting like he has threatened? Just a thought.

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I'm still confused on where the gravitonium came from. Are they implying Fitz and Simmons put it in the Lighthouse and Zephyr? Or what?

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I'm still confused on where the gravitonium came from. Are they implying Fitz and Simmons put it in the Lighthouse and Zephyr? Or what?
I am guessing that The Lighthouse is one of the many code named SHIELD holding facilities. We know Hydra did not know about all of them. I wouldn't mind the return of a Koenig brother to lighten the mood of the season some.

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I have to say oh come on about TV fights. Deke has at least 30 lbs on Daisy and his life or death fight hit doesn't flinch Sinara while Daisy's knock her back for a while. Technique can not do that much over sheer power.


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Anyway that is the comic version.
I think the mcu version of quake has enhanced strength,not superstrength.If if quake in comics does not have superstrength like the average inhuman she have enhanced strength and would be peak human.
The mcu version is peak human.


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Here is another thought. Look at the promo for the next episode. When Kassius is threatening to kill Yo Yo; does she appear to have died before. Her face is much more pale than previously seen. Could Kassius be killing and resurrecting like he has threatened? Just a thought.
That scene could also be from the alternate timeline. We never did see what happened to Yo-yo after she took the elevator to confront Cassius. The confrontation would explain why he recognized her and was too well prepared to handle her.

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My theory is that she sells out the human race to protect the Inhumans and she's been around all this time. She's his "seer."

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I think I know who Kassius's seer is. It is a resurrected Ben the inhuman mind reader. Right before Kassius comes out to tell us that he has a seer of his own; look at the smock of the guy with the gloves. It looks bloody. He seems to be the Doctor that performs the resurrections. I wonder what are the limitations of such resurrections.
Depending ln how his resurrection works, could we be getting the return of Raina? (Or worse, Ward)

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Depending ln how his resurrection works, could we be getting the return of Raina? (Or worse, Ward)
I think Ben is most likely at this point, or hope so. It would seem like cheating just to bring a character in cold to fix the box they wrote themselves into. I would hate to see Yo-yo turned evil under these conditions. Besides that there are the years of age on her, even if the MCU suddenly gives Inhumans super strength and retarded aging along with a super power which Kasius can turn on and off.

Besides Ward's body was nuked. Brett Dalton and BJ Britt got their goodbye tours in the framework. Meanwhile Nick Blood also had his goodbye tour even if doesn't come back when the team returns to present time. And Ruth Negga was never a regular.

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Finally had a chance to catch up on the last 5 eps last night. Great stuff overall! It’s a bit draggy here and there, and other times a bit too in love with a scene that while good could have been trimmed, but ultimately those are nits. The Daisy/Sinara fight was very well done imo. Never thought much of Fitz as a character before but this post-Framework version is a lot more fun. Looking forward to seeing how the wrap up this arc.

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Like I said before, I think that Kassius's seer is Ben. It makes the most sense. Also, I pointed out that the Kree doctor appears to have blood on his smock. This would point to Ben's body being repaired and resurrected.

Numerous online sites are saying that the cast was shocked at who was Kassius's seer. This would make me feel it is Yo Yo. But shouldn't have Kassius known about Mac then? Mac seems to have died early in an alternative time line. While Yo Yo survived until the Kree took over. That is why Kassius knew about Yo Yo. One thing to remember is that Daisy and Coulson both appear to have died early on in the alternative time line. It would make sense that both of them probably took on Graviton.

It does not make sense that Yo Yo is the seer. She would only know events that happened in the alternative time line. Unless Yo Yo has gone back in time numerous times; she should not know the plans of current day Shield. What would make sense is that she is the mother of the Inhumans at the Lighthouse. When she confronted Kassius in the alternative time line, she was captured and her blood was used to create the new babies being created by the Kree.

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Another strange occurrence on this episode. Did anyone else notice that (pardon me if I offend; don't mean to) the deaf/mute black servant girl of Kassius. She has appeared quite frequently in this season's episodes and rarely does anything but stand around. Could she be related to Flint?

Anyone else notice that she just seems to be in the background. I only remember her serving the delicacy that Fitz did not eat. Again she seems to have spent more time as background than doing anything during the episodes.

Why?

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I didn't see a thread for the next episode. Looking at the youtube promo.



Who is the guy at the 17 second mark. Seems to be an undead. Has black eyes.

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I didn't see a thread for the next episode. Looking at the youtube promo.



Who is the guy at the 17 second mark. Seems to be an undead. Has black eyes.
That will possibly be Tye http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2301278/?ref_=ttfc_fc_cl_t19

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Finally caught up on Friday's episode and I wasn't a fan. The last few episodes have been really interesting and this one was so predictable. Kassius was essentially a mustache twirling villain.

Though I do like the idea of Daisy "just being Daisy Johnson, Agent of SHIELD" and not an Inhuman. She's enough of a Mary Sue as is and taking away that power makes her character less annoying to me.

But that won't happen.

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Solid episode overall. It feels like we are close to the end of this arc. The 100th episode will be coming up. I don't know if confirmed, but my guess is we get episode 10 next week, and then a 2 part finale for this arc (which would be episodes 11 and 12...12 would be the 100th (22x4 = 88 + 12 = 100).

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Another strange occurrence on this episode. Did anyone else notice that (pardon me if I offend; don't mean to) the deaf/mute black servant girl of Kassius. She has appeared quite frequently in this season's episodes and rarely does anything but stand around. Could she be related to Flint?

Anyone else notice that she just seems to be in the background. I only remember her serving the delicacy that Fitz did not eat. Again she seems to have spent more time as background than doing anything during the episodes.

Why?
Just a tv show keeping continuity of the background characters. I wouldn't look that hard into it.

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