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Old 08-06-2009, 07:14 PM   #26
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When (i.e. what phase of the moon) and where (I read Spector's Merc days as giving him an advantage if its outside of an urban setting - not that he's lousy in the city... the bulk of his Moon Knight work has taken place in the city, but he shares that with Azrael) are they fighting?
1.) Half-Moon

2.) Like I said, NYC, nowhere specific.

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Ah sh## then it's Az...

I was hoping to be able to go with Moon Knight. Even half-moon, Moon Knight is enhanced more than a regular human... but Suit of Sorrows is too much tech for me to be able to see him handle when being used by as well trained a guy as Az is...

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SoS Az wins. I don't even really care for the character but between the the sword and teh suit he takes it against Marc.

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In a match that shows most people don't give a damn, Azrael out-crazies Moon Knight 5-2.

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I forgot what the Iron Lantern could do. Is he basically just a GL in Iron Man armor?

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Iron Lantern wears an armor that can generate a variety of effects, such as:
  • Constructs of green 'solid-energy,' often of tremendous size and/or complexity.
  • Plasma bolts
  • Semi-sentient computers.
  • Flight, including flight at speeds beyond that of light by the use of wormholes.
  • Time travel
  • Almost unlimited telepathic powers
  • Translation of virtually all languages
  • Force field generation
The armor gives him superhuman strength and durability.

The armor is also able to convert nearby energy sources, such as heat or kinetic energy into electricity. The armor has jet skates that are now so powerful Iron Lantern can skate forward towing an entire train behind him.

Miniature panes can protect Iron Lantern's eyes when needed. In addition, the armor can be completely sealed for operations in vacuum or underwater, and is shielded against radiation.

The onboard systems of the armor are controlled by Hal Stark's brain patterns, read from a cybernetic interface in his helmet.

The armor has a uni-beam projector in its chest; pulse bolts that pick up kinetic energy along the way, so that they hit harder the further they have to travel and an electromagnetic pulse generator.

Other capabilities include generation of ultra-freon, creating and manipulating of magnetic fields, sonic blasts and a holographic generator to create decoys.
He's Hal Jordan, Charles Xaiver, Magneto, Mysterio, & Tony Stark on Space Crack.

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Actually, he's a Green Lantern with Tony Stark's brain.

Iron Lantern by the way.

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Actually, he's a Green Lantern with Tony Stark's brain.

Iron Lantern by the way.
Oh so what part of Tony or said Lantern has nearly unlimied telepathy?

Ultra freon? Or...

F*** it, it's just easier to say you're wrong.

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Technically, a GL can have unlimited telepathic powers. If the ring bearer wills it so.

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Technically, a GL can have unlimited telepathic powers. If the ring bearer wills it so.
.....Yeah. Let me know how that's worked for the rest of the Corps, much less those that have telepathic foes that tend to pop up.

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It's true. If you take an individual, smart enough to really take advantage of the fact that you can will the ring to do whatever you want it to, that GL would be able to all that stuff and more. The Ring is the greatest weapon in the universe, it has only one real flaw. The wielder.

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It's true. If you take an individual, smart enough to really take advantage of the fact that you can will the ring to do whatever you want it to, that GL would be able to all that stuff and more. The Ring is the greatest weapon in the universe, it has only one real flaw. The wielder.
Again, you've got nothing in actual practice, just theoy based on an ability on paper?

So by this same logic the Sentry is the most powerful guy in the MU.

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Hal Jordan has used his ring to protect his mind from telepaths, read minds, communicate telepathically, manipulate memories, and created protective bubbles that enabled those within to communicate telepathically.

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Again, you've got nothing in actual practice, just theoy based on an ability on paper?

So by this same logic the Sentry is the most powerful guy in the MU.

Uhhh, no, because he doesn't have a thought based weapon that is limited only by the wielder's imagination. Are you drunk or something?

Also, what Silicon said. If a card board cut out like Hal can figure such things out, imagine what a guy like Stark could do?

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Hal Jordan has used his ring to protect his mind from telepaths, read minds, communicate telepathically, manipulate memories, and created protective bubbles that enabled those within to communicate telepathically.
NONE of that equals up to unlimited telepathy. Admirable telepathic feats? Yes.

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Uhhh, no, because he doesn't have a thought based weapon that is limited only by the wielder's imagination. Are you drunk or something?

Also, what Silicon said. If a card board cut out like Hal can figure such things out, imagine what a guy like Stark could do?
If I'm drunk, you're f'n high.

Sentry has done 90% of what Surfer listed and raised the f'n dead. So he doesn't need a ring and he's got telepathic powers. By your own rules he's capable of anything.

Don't cop out now, you're making an epic fool of yourself.

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NONE of that equals up to unlimited telepathy. Admirable telepathic feats? Yes.
Actually, what Anubis said has merit. If Hal (who's known for his fearlessness, not his imagination) can produce "admirable telepathic feats", then Stark (who's known for his ingenuity and imagination) would likely be able to have near "unlimited telepathy".

Iron Lantern wins.

Funny thing is, I can think of a lot more characters in the Marvel Universe that would be better Green Lanterns than some of the ones we have in DC.

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Did I see Time Travel listed as a power?

Iron Lantern goes back before Eradicator was born and kills his pregnant mom Terminator style.

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So, what would that look like? He steps on a Kryptonian toaster or something?

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Actually, what Anubis said has merit. If Hal (who's known for his fearlessness, not his imagination) can produce "admirable telepathic feats", then Stark (who's known for his ingenuity and imagination) would likely be able to have near "unlimited telepathy".

Iron Lantern wins.

Funny thing is, I can think of a lot more characters in the Marvel Universe that would be better Green Lanterns than some of the ones we have in DC.
Practice > Theory

An argument based on ifs and buts, nothing concrete.

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Iron Lantern is too much. Too rounded.

****, the only thing better would be giving Bats a ring...

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Hell, you might as well shut down the DC Universe.

Eradicator, basically a mechanical Superman clone is getting NO respect. Shocking.

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I'll go with Iron Lantern. The question of telepathy notwithstanding, I'd give any high-level GL a decent chance against Superman, so a super-smart, highly imaginative, highly willful GL-powered Tony Stark against a slightly less powerful Kryptonian robot seems like a no-brainer.

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