The SuperHeroHype Forums  

Go Back   The SuperHeroHype Forums > TV Series > Iron Fist

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-17-2017, 10:48 PM   #1
ZIPBAGS
Side-Kick
 
ZIPBAGS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 1,813
Default Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

So we see Claire meets with Danny and tells him its crazy to go after the hand by himself. So my questions is why doesn't Claire contact Matt or Luke to help him? Yes, I know its not the Defenders yet, but with a drug so deadly I am sure Matt & Luke would be into stopping it. Especially after Matt had dealings with Madame Gao.

ZIPBAGS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2017, 11:30 PM   #2
TheVileOne
Side-Kick
 
TheVileOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: California
Posts: 53,080
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

Luke is in jail.

__________________
"This is true. This is real. This . . . Is . . . Straight Edge."

- CM Punk
TheVileOne is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2017, 11:33 PM   #3
NJCaliboy
Banned User
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 71
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVileOne View Post
Luke is in jail.
yep. that's why when he ask her if she is seeing someone and she says no he's unavailable (he's in jail), but she also knows Jessica and Matt, and she knows Matt's personal interest with The Hand- so I too wondered why she didn't at least let Matt know, that would seem logical based on past events.

NJCaliboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2017, 11:38 PM   #4
TheVileOne
Side-Kick
 
TheVileOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: California
Posts: 53,080
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

She doesn't really know Jessica that well. They met once really and she probably doesn't know how much help she'd be at this point.

I mean...she should've called Matt the moment Luke went to the police precint so Luke had some legal representation.

__________________
"This is true. This is real. This . . . Is . . . Straight Edge."

- CM Punk
TheVileOne is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2017, 11:09 AM   #5
Darkraid
Side-Kick
 
Darkraid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Madripoor
Posts: 1,774
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

I think Matt might have gone away from Hell's kitchen since dd s2.

Darkraid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2017, 11:20 AM   #6
legendkillin
Side-Kick
 
legendkillin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 3,795
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

It really isn't her place to involve them. Its like in the MCU solo movies after the Avengers. People bring up why didn't Stark contact one of them in IM3, or Thor in Thor2, or Cap in Cap 2. The mission is personal and the hero likely would not want to involve outsiders.

legendkillin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2017, 11:31 AM   #7
The Infernal
Spinning Fidgeter
 
The Infernal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Scotland
Posts: 9,338
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

To me it depends on what kind of state Matt is in after Daredevil season 2. Matt's world is fractured, but it doesn't seem as though he was planning on laying low so he's still potentially active as Daredevil at the time of the Irin Fist story. So it does pose a problem, but one that could of easily been solved by a line or two about him being busy or off the radar as far as Claire knows without seeming unbelievable.

The Infernal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2017, 11:46 AM   #8
chamber-music
Infinity Ammo
 
chamber-music's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 34,101
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

Claire could of simply said Matt is off training off the grid somewhere which would of easily explained why she did not call for his help.

Luke is in prison and she barely knows Jessica Jones.

__________________
All aboard the Pork Chop Express!
chamber-music is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2017, 11:52 AM   #9
Loki882
Side-Kick
 
Loki882's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 20,810
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

Matt is the big one here. Luke and Jessica are rather easy to explain (and others already have).

Loki882 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2017, 05:57 PM   #10
Dark Raven
The Gal from Themyscira
 
Dark Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Tall and tanned and young and lovely
Posts: 44,724
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

I was thinking that in the last episode Claire would make the suggestion to Danny that he gets help from the others to fight the Hand. I didn't want him going off to Kun Lun but to be getting ready to face his enemy instead and to also meet the others.

It seemed a bit odd the way Claire left in her final scene, as if it was just back to business for her.

Also the final episode should really have been about the Hand gaining reinforcements and preparing another strike, instead of being about Harold Meacham. It didn't feel like a proper season finale but as if it just stopped in the middle of a season or they ran out of story.

__________________
Quote:
Anne Hathaway: "You did not just ask me that!! What a forward young man you are!!! My goodness!!"
Dark Raven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2017, 11:05 PM   #11
Guard82
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 925
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

Matt probably still has his hands full trying to keep Hell's Kitchen in one piece. I'm sure there are still plenty of criminals who are trying to fill the power vacuum left by Wilson Fisk.

Guard82 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2017, 12:03 AM   #12
TheVileOne
Side-Kick
 
TheVileOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: California
Posts: 53,080
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

It would've been fine if they contacted him and he wasn't available. We don't have to actually see Matt. Just some narrative attempt would've been fine.

It's perfectly easy, Claire walks into a room and is like, "OK I've called Matt's cell and office number two dozen times, but his office number is disconnected or something and he's not answering his cell."

His office number being disconnected makes sense. He was barely keeping his private practice afloat last season. These are simple, easy fixes the writing team didn't take the effort to do.

__________________
"This is true. This is real. This . . . Is . . . Straight Edge."

- CM Punk
TheVileOne is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2017, 03:38 PM   #13
scarlet-witch
BRING ME THANOS
 
scarlet-witch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Sokovia
Posts: 3,844
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

I was wondering about this myself. (Still making my way through the series)

I think Claire's involvement feels really forced in IF. I felt her inclusion in JJ and LC was pretty seamless but this isn't. When she doesn't mention Matt by name or even say "Hey, I know a guy who's a good fighter that has issues with the Hand, let me try to cal him" it made it even more glaring.

__________________
We're here to fight. If you stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
scarlet-witch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-30-2017, 06:33 PM   #14
Random490
Side-Kick
 
Random490's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,302
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

The thing is you can BS any number of explanations for it, something as subtle as saying "my friends not picking up" a real quick line and immediately move on would have done wonders. Who knows, they could have filmed such a scene and was just cut out for any number of reasons. It wouldn't be annoying if it weren't for Claire being so active in the season.

Random490 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2017, 08:12 PM   #15
TheVileOne
Side-Kick
 
TheVileOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: California
Posts: 53,080
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

Yeah as I just said, you could've had Claire attempting to contact Matt multiple times, but like he wasn't available. We don't even know if Matt's office is still afloat.

__________________
"This is true. This is real. This . . . Is . . . Straight Edge."

- CM Punk
TheVileOne is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2017, 08:35 AM   #16
scarlet-witch
BRING ME THANOS
 
scarlet-witch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Sokovia
Posts: 3,844
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

I'm just really bothered with how dumbed down they've made Claire in this series. It's like she serves one purpose and that's to be annoying. I've never not liked her on screen before.

__________________
We're here to fight. If you stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
scarlet-witch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-04-2017, 06:43 PM   #17
Darepool
Banned User
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Planet Kirby
Posts: 2,072
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

Is it just me or is Claire really getting on your nerves with this whole grounded & motherly 'voice of reason' shtick. We get it already with her POV, but at the end of the day she's a damn nurse. The writers need to step up their game in regards to Claire, her character is wearing thin.


Last edited by Darepool; 06-04-2017 at 07:38 PM.
Darepool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2017, 12:51 AM   #18
TheVileOne
Side-Kick
 
TheVileOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: California
Posts: 53,080
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

I did find her a bit more annoying in Iron Fist. She tends to over-moralize a lot. Also, she could've tried to call Matt Murdock ONCE at least.

__________________
"This is true. This is real. This . . . Is . . . Straight Edge."

- CM Punk
TheVileOne is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2017, 11:23 AM   #19
Darepool
Banned User
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Planet Kirby
Posts: 2,072
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

- Started out great in DD S1 and JJ.

- Become a bit of an echo in DD S2.

- Evolved somewhat in LC but still had the over-moralizing (annoying) trait

- In Iron Fist she went of a cliff and became much more of a gimmick who just got in the way.


Last edited by Darepool; 06-05-2017 at 11:27 AM.
Darepool is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-05-2017, 11:42 AM   #20
TheVileOne
Side-Kick
 
TheVileOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: California
Posts: 53,080
Default Re: Why doesn't Danny &....? (thru epis.8 spoiler)

Yeah, I mean, why was she going to China with Danny and Colleen? And listen, I like Rosario Dawson. She's a great actress. But her character isn't a vigilante either.

__________________
"This is true. This is real. This . . . Is . . . Straight Edge."

- CM Punk
TheVileOne is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:18 AM.

monitoring_string = "dee460792f24517621e3ca080805de7e"



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SuperHeroHype.com is a property of Mandatory Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2018 All Rights Reserved.