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Old 01-17-2013, 10:55 PM   #1001
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from what I've seen, simply restricting guns are not going to do anything... even banning guns wont do anything. a criminal doesn't care about laws, or restrictions, or bans; they're going to get a gun, even if it has to be through a black market.
If you're taking this line of reasoning, why not just say, "No law makes any difference at all since criminals will just do whatever they want anyway."

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Old 01-17-2013, 11:11 PM   #1002
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If you're taking this line of reasoning, why not just say, "No law makes any difference at all since criminals will just do whatever they want anyway."
It depends on the law. Laws do little to dissuade those intent on committing crimes. If person A wants to murder person B, then he will. If person A wants to murder person B with a gun, then he'll buy the gun. Murder is illegal as is, and there already is crime.

Crime historically has been very ineffective as a deterrent on those who already choose to disobey them. This is why gun further gun control will not work - anything they could do with the gun is already a much worse crime than obtaining the gun itself. If you were intent on committing a mass murder / rob a bank / mug some guy, would you really let a gun law get in your way?

As it stands, over 95% of crimes are committed with people who are illegally in possession of a firearm. If we enforced the laws already on the books, and did so effectively, there would already be very little gun crime. New gun laws would not change that, it would only hurt law abiding citizens even more.

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