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Old 03-11-2018, 07:36 PM   #576
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I'm noticing the pattern for a good villain here. The best villains Magneto, Loki, Vulture, Nebula, Winter Soldier and etc have redeeming factors. Stuff that makes you want to see them again, deep roots and connections to the main characters.

Where as the fodder villains, Ronan, Whiplash, Malekith, Yellow Jacket and so on have generic backgrounds. No deeper motives than basic (i want to be rich/powerful) or serving as a human shield(basically) for the greater end villain.

I believe Marvel could give all these villains the same fleshed out vibe that the so called "Good Villains" have but simply don't because they have no current intention on them returning and have bigger and much more serious plans in motion for future conflicts involving better villains.
That's a good point, and I think that's true of screenwriting in general. The best villains are not 'I'm evil bwa ha ha ha ha!' cliches but characters with deep backstory and strong personal ties to the main protagonist. They are essentially the dark side of the protagonist, the shadow that always follows them around.

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Old 03-12-2018, 10:45 PM   #577
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What is the redeeming qualities of Ledger's Joker? Hannibal Lecter? Emperor Palpatine? Anton Chigurh? Norman Bates? Mike Myers? Hans Gruber? Annie Wilkes? Nurse Ratched? The Terminator? The T-1000? Max Cady? Patrick Bateman? Jack Torrance?

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What is the redeeming qualities of Ledger's Joker? Hannibal Lecter? Emperor Palpatine? Anton Chigurh? Norman Bates? Mike Myers? Hans Gruber? Annie Wilkes? Nurse Ratched? The Terminator? The T-1000? Max Cady? Patrick Bateman? Jack Torrance?
Mike Myers had redeeming qualities. He was Austin Powers and Dr Evil.

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