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Old 06-28-2017, 07:04 AM   #801
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I'm tired of this discussion going in circles.
I only hope that these new Spider-Man spoilers will put an end to these accusations of the Russos not caring about Cap's mythos at last. It's obvious now this is Marvel Studios in a nutshell. They don't even care about Spidey's comic-books.
I'm not fully versed in the SM:H situation. I'd have been fine with a black Sharon.

Nothing of what I heard about SM:H sounds anywhere near the Cap situation. For that, Homecoming would have to give give MJ(?) a cameo while heavily focusing on an appearance by Kamala Khan.

But if there is something untoward, folks will be blaming the director and screenwriter, too.


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Old 06-28-2017, 04:11 PM   #802
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^ It's not about MJ being black.
Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
The point is that they've COMPLETELY changed MJ's personality. So it's very much unlikely now that the real MJ is ever gonna even appear in the MCU.


Sharon is still in the MCU, while Spidey's female lead is a whole new character, which has never been featured in the comics.

Director had nothing to do with it, I bet. Creative control of Homecoming is on Marvel and Feige, so without his permission or even suggestions this would have never happened.


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Old 06-30-2017, 12:56 PM   #803
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Maybe he didn't, but I bet he gets blamed anyway. Even though he is likely a journeyman.

But the Russos aren't journeymen.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Zendaya's character, however different from MJ she is, is there for Parker. She isn't there to set up some future non-SM movie. They aren't planning to spin her off into something else.


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Old 07-01-2017, 03:54 PM   #804
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They've done just that. They've talked about how the movie would be very different without him. That makes it sound like he's supposed to be important to the plot.
It's funny and ironic, how fans of Sharon accuse Russos in lying, when EVC was full of **** herself during the promo-tour. She's ready to tell any crap to promote herself and her character, no matter how idiotic her descriptions were.
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I think there’s an initial trust there that maybe he doesn’t have with anyone else and maybe she doesn’t have with anyone else.
Of course, dear, of course! His trust and friendship with Natasha, Sam and Bucky is nothing compared to his relationship with your great character.
Yes-yes, he trusts you from the start, because you deceived him from the start. Truly, what an extraordinary initial trust!
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I think you see her struggle with that within this film because she’s battling her work and her loyalty to her work.
Oh, yes, great struggle indeed. Honey, you were ready to get into his pants right after the funeral, what struggle are you talking about? In which scene we could see it?
" integrity", "loyalty to her work" -

At least Russos have some dignity not to make such a pathetic promotion of their worst-written character.
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These movies could have been very sort of surface level but what I love about Marvel is how they delve into the characters. They sort of give us the freedom as well to create a version of the character that hopefully the fans will like and it’s a really fun process.
Especially your character, dear
I bet you loved Marvel a lot, when they cut your role once again. Just tell us the name of that poor Marvel employee, who wrote all this bull for you to learn by heart. He deserves some credit for better creativity than the filmmakers had with your beloved Sharon.

EVC in a nutshell. Russos need to make up a lot more bollocks to come near her level of crap.


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Old 07-02-2017, 12:35 PM   #805
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The difference is that the Russo didn't need to pretend that Spider-Man was more than he was. They didn't need to say he was always part of the movie, they could have said that Marvel got the rights in time and they decided to give him a small part in it.

VanCamp was likely ordered by Marvel to do press because Scarjo was pretending to be Japanese at the time, and they wanted a woman to do press with Downey and co. She could have torn them down, but that's a good way not to be hired by someone else.

VanCamp lied because she was in a lose-lose situation.

The Russos lie for the hell of it.

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