The Build to ASM #700

[carnageehw]

Originally Posted by Themanofbat

Because it doesn't serve a purpose other than fueling the flames of anger to those who are uttering death threats to creators and behaving irrationally due to a "story".

I'm sorry, but I"m not going to not be angry because some idiots out there issue death threats.

This is not the first time in fiction where we have seen the villain take over the mind (or even impersonate) of the hero... and nobody ever brought up rape.

That's doesn't not make it an issue. But were those stories anything like this? Where a prolonged live in relationship actually happens.

This is a story. A story that has been told before in various forms.

The ONLY makes the angry fans even angrier.

And when dealing with angry fans, the "logic" never seems to manifest itself.

There is simply no logic in ignoring the issue. You should be angry reading a book where a main character is tricked into having sex. There's no place for that.
Again, I'm not totally up to date on Peter's relationship situation, but for example: If in the comic books Peter (really Ock) and Mary Jane are out on a date, holding hands and kissing etc. They sleep in the same bed and this goes on for a long length of time, how on earth can you look at that knowing it's not Peter Parker and NOT be deeply disturbed?

A woman is having sexual relations with someone she thinks is her boyfriend....but it's not. That crosses a very big line, and something that would easily ruin the book and the characters.

[carnageehw]

I should point out that I actually like the idea of Ock becoming Spider-man for a little while. There's some good possibilities. But this is not a story you can tell with Spider-man in a relationship, unless Spider-Ock ditches the girlfriend.

[carnageehw]

Originally Posted by Themanofbat

Also, I'm not a fan of "rape", nor would I support it... as of right now, it's a non-issue... but at some point, SpOck will have sex with someone... anyone... and these people will think it's Peter Parker... so will the world always cry "RAPE" when this happens?

I'd rather just not "fuel the fire"...

I should also, also point out that is SpOck met and started a relationship with someone new, that's a little different than SpOck taking over a relationship with Peters previous girlfriend.

[Themanofbat]

But the "new" character would still think she's having sex with Peter Parker... so how would that differ than MJ, or the Black Cat, or Carlie Cooper (assuming they went that far)?

I think I can handle this type of questions... especially with the civility involved thus far... but I cringe the next time I pop around...

[carnageehw]

Originally Posted by Themanofbat

But the "new" character would still think she's having sex with Peter Parker... so how would that differ than MJ, or the Black Cat, or Carlie Cooper (assuming they went that far)?

If it's a new girl Peter has never met before, I think it's a little more analogous to a situation where I go to a bar, and tell a girl I'm a rich doctor who flies to exotic locations every weekend. It's a lie, but there's a little more responsibility put on the person to not just jump into bed with a stranger they just met.

But that doesn't exist when the girl is already in a relationship with Peter. They've gotten past that "Let's get to know and trust each other" stage.

[Themanofbat]

As it currently stands, Peter is NOT in a relationship with anyone...

[runawayboulder]

Cuz that motherf****r's dead as disco.

[The Infernal]

lol, you beat me too it.

[Miken Ayers]

All I'm gonna say on the rape issue is that if a girl's at a party for instance, goes into a dark room expecting to sleep with a specific person, but any person or persons involved knowingly deceives her as to their identity, then if an intercourse does occur all parties in on the deception will be brought up on felony charges.

I know brain swaps don't happen in the real world, but sex through identity deception is recognized as rape.

[carnageehw]

Originally Posted by Themanofbat

As it currently stands, Peter is NOT in a relationship with anyone...

That's good then. Here's hoping they keep it that way with all his ex's.

[The Infernal]

Originally Posted by Miken Ayers

All I'm gonna say on the rape issue is that if a girl's at a party for instance, goes into a dark room expecting to sleep with a specific person, but any person or persons involved knowingly deceives her as to their identity, then if an intercourse does occur all parties in on the deception will be brought up on felony charges.

I know brain swaps don't happen in the real world, but sex through identity deception is recognized as rape.

Someone should let Marvel know, because Wacker's views on the subject are disturbing.