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Why do you guys keep coming to this thread attacking G1?
You have a Beast Wars thread. Go rave about your talking rats and cheetahs over there. |
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Sam wasn't part of G1. The name was Spike. And Blackout and Barricade weren't G1 either. Ironhide was obviously based largely on Rhinox in robot mode. Optimus did gorrilla type acrobatics. The story and pod landing borrowed from Armada.
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The last name Witwicky is G1 obviously. Unless you think this last name was a coincidence.
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You want to dabble on little things. Very well.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0418279/quotes It says Sam "Spike" Witwicky. "Spike" is his callname. It doesn't get called in the movie, because: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spike_Witwicky#Spike Quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brawl_%28Transformers%29 Blackout was initially intended to be Vortex, and Devastator was initially be named (and still within Toys) to be Brawl. Barricade wasn't in G1 shows (but in G1 toys), well if there's a TV shows about Barricade is not gonna be in Beast Wars but in G1-expansion. Quote:
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Transformers tend to recycle names because it's sometimes difficult to get copyright for certain names. But not Witwicky. Witwicky is a throwback to G1 whether you like or not.
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It might be a throwback, but it's been used 3 or 4 times at this point, in distinct continuities.
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Repeat after me: The "Witwicky" family is first mentioned in G1. True, yes? Whether the movies or distinct TF series want to mention the family, it's to respect G1. Not BW. End of debate. Shush. |
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Second, of course they don't want an exact G1 movie (see the Wiki link very down below). They're making a movie largely based on G1, because that's what most people remember of TF and I don't have to explain this again and again. It's Captain Obvious. Quote:
Read the Wikipedia articles I show you. Vortex is the name of Blackout in the original script but it's later dropped because of copyright issue. Unlike you, I gave evidences to support my cases. Quote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironhide "His weapons include an energy cannon mounted on his left forearm and a missile launcher on his right forearmis weapons include an energy cannon mounted on his left forearm and a missile launcher on his right forearm" You're a making a fantasy world, where you had this image of movie Ironhide having a twin gatling gun and stick by that image. Face it you, you're wrong. Quote:
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Okay to make you happy, look at like this: Movie Optimus Prime takes the lips from Beast Wars, but on the other hand it takes voicework, name, personality, transformation mode, quotes, rifle from G1. Lips... against the whole shbang. How's that? Quote:
Read this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformers_%28film%29 thoroughly. You will again babble like an ignorant before reading it. |
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The guy is Onslaught to form Bruticus Maximus in Energon. Not convinced? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combaticons (check Transformers: Energon section). |
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"In the parallel universe of 2004's Transformers: Energon a combining team of five robots similar to the Combaticons exists, who form the giant robot known as Bruticus Maximus (simply Bruticus in Japan). The team consists of Barricade (Onslaught in Japan), the leader of the team who forms the central body of Bruticus Maximus, and the four limbs, Blight (Brawl) and Kickback (Swindle), who become tanks, and Blackout (Vortex) and Stormcloud (Blast Off), who transform into helicopters. Each one can form either an arm or a leg for Bruticus Maximus" Ergo, Barricade is an analog to Onslaught, as do Bruticus Maximus is the analog of Bruticus. So Barricade is actually "Onslaught" to form Bruticus Maximus (I'm missing the quotes). |
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Dumb point. Optimus was first introduced in G1, but he isn't the same Optimus as appeared in future incarnations of the show. It might be a throwback to G1 to mention Witwicky, but then so is everytime they re-use a name. Has nothing to do with making it a G1 film. This movie isn't Beast Wars, but it sure as f*** isn't G1 either. It's an entirely different continuity much like RiD or UT.
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In fact the www.Allspark.com. That message board will virtually blacklist you for liking G1. Here check this thread: http://www.allspark.com/forums/index...howtopic=31727 Quote:
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I can disable your whole argument with one sentence actually: G1 is not a fiction, it's a toyline designation. You need some help explaining that for you. Here it goes. Hasbro sells toys, G1 was created to sell those toys, when new toys are made ergo a new show is made unconnected to the prior show. G1 is a continuity that is not a rolling continuity like Marvel, it had a definite end and several reboots of the Transformers line have followed. Transformers doesn't build off of it's fiction, it builds off of it's toyline. That's why all it's fictions are so drastically different. Last edited by ShadowBoxing; 07-03-2007 at 08:39 PM. |
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Are you damn retarded? It's not an exact G1 movie. It's a movie of TF based largely on Generation 1 TF. What's your real modus of making this go on and on? That BW influences the movie the most? BW doesn't influence the movie at all, since the screen writers are asked to research on Generation 1 TF. |
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Ironhide in the movie is to reference G1 Ironhide character. Not Rhinox and his voice actor. Quote:
Short version: they're looking at the G1 lore, but made modifications later because some of things told in G1 is not appropriate for the movie - including the alt.mode, the Ark and so on. Quote:
The reason that there's changes on the alt mode is because of decisions. They at one point consider Bumblebee as a VW Bug (thoght it off because it will be similar to Herbie) and Optimus as the original cab trailer (thought it off because it will be too short). Quote:
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I don't care, idle-head. TF is not my life and I said all along I'm not a G1 purist. Quote:
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GI JOE and He-Man were cancelled in the 80's. It doesn't stop producers to make movie based on them, yes? I don't know if you have reading comprehension or the stronghead of yours skipped the part on the Wiki link I gave you where it says clearly that the producers are aiming for a TF movie based on G1-lore. Quote:
What's my argument anyway? That the movie is largely based on G1? Check. I stick to my point, pal. Not like you "the movie is based on BW, no Armada, no Energon, ah it's just not based on G1." Haha. And that dual gatling guns. ROLFMAO. Check your eyes to the nearest opthalmologist. I'm willing it's not your eyes that are damaged. It's your mind. Last edited by chiefchirpa; 07-03-2007 at 10:10 PM. Reason: _ |
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This right here is you just being plain stupid. The Dinobots (all of them), and the insecticons are Diaclone toys. Released in 1982 as Dinosaur Robo's and Waruders respectivly. Proof.
The Predacons were desinged in full by a team of engineers that Takara poached from Bandai. And it's been asserted that they walked out with an unused Megazord design and adapted it into Predaking.
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Jim Shooter and Bob Budinsky wrote the concept to the comic and toyline before the cartoon came out with the pilot.
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The concept and setting of G1 is my favorite, but I'm sorry to say it is not the end all, be all of TF, every incarnation has it's pros and cons and that's why I loved the movie so much, I prefer the '20 Years of Transformers' film over a slavish G1 movie which is basically a fan boy ejaculation rather than a good idea. All the best comic adaptations have taken elements from all over the mythos (Superman: The Movie, Batman Begins, Spidey 1 and 2, etc)
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At least I don't say "dumbass" in my post, I'm just cajolling over your weak argument with introducing Ironhide with gatling guns. Why do you get that sensitive? Quote:
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