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don't worry about it, it's not your fault. I just want to move on with the thread, if that is possible...
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I think this thread should just take a rest for a few days.
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Well when people are ready to come back to the thread and the topic of the thread, here is a review of some topics/questions/quotes we've started to cover recently that might be of interest of other people to talk about too (and hopefully the next people to post here will have the decency to talk about *that* and not continue this argument)
Clapper scene numbers from filming: Scene 80: The Iceland Waterfall Scene 128: Dark Elves arrive and/or Thor vs. Dark Elves Scene 132: Thor vs Malekith by the column For those not reading all our other posts, this seems to put Jane back on Midgard, and Thor fighting Dark Elves and Malekith in the beginning of the last 1/3 of the film (comparing with Thor 1 and Avengers), with travelling to the Waterfall being much earlier. Jaimie Alexander quote: "You really get to see how much love she has for her fellow Asgardians because she puts her life on the line and risks a lot to save a few Asgardians." Who in Thor's Rogue gallery do you think we will see? Malekith appears to be summoning something on Midgard. What do you think that could be? Do you think Kurse will kill Malekith like in the comics or do you think there will be a different ending? AAA quote which seems to go along with the Andrew Lawden spoiler about Frigga dying: ComicBook.com: And is it a really interesting working environment? I mean, you can find yourself just surrounded in the Marvel Universe now with Academy Award-caliber actors, with actors who are the top-grossing actors of the last decade. Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje: Yeah, I mean look: I can recall the scene. I’m in the scene and Renee Russo is in my arms or beside me and I’m facing Anthony Hopkins and Chris Hemsworth and Chris Eccleston–and just about every great actor within that genre is in the room and you just realize it’s a great privilege and honor. To be opposite Anthony Hopkins and to watch him work is just…amazing. http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/01/19...-blockbusters/ another interesting AAA quote from that: Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje: I think it all depends on the character. You never know what will become of what character–nobody ever really dies. I think that’s all I can really say; it depends on the character you’re playing. Last edited by elizah72; 01-22-2013 at 08:04 PM. |
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The Majora's Mask moon?
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Like I said, ***when people are ready to get back to the topic*** then please look at my post above for a couple subjects that were brought up for possible discussion. I look forward to getting back to the topic of the thread, that I was so enjoying talking about up until now.
If people however continue to provoke, accuse, and cause trouble here I WILL be contacting a mod. Last edited by elizah72; 01-20-2013 at 09:01 PM. |
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guys lets just simmer down, and let this thread die for a few days. Let my post right here be the last one for a day or two, this is going no where
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Putting together a couple Jaimie Alexander quotes for consideration RE Sif...
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a453938/jaimie-alexander-sif-sacrifices-a-lot-in-thor-the-dark-world.html (see page for more including video interview) Quote:
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In any case, it seems likely that Sif may wind up defying Odin himself for Thor, possibly, deciding to play by "the king's" rules no more? (see bolded text) thoughts? Last edited by elizah72; 01-25-2013 at 03:50 PM. |
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my thoughts...my thoughts, are that, if this is the case, and Sif stays on earth, that we may be done with ms Portman
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![]() Okay, here I go with my wild and crazy speculation again. ![]() my longer spoilery speculation below ![]() Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
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^^I can see how that would fit with Andrew Lawden's remarks.
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oh, come now AM, is there any way you can make your replies shorter, people have to be able to read this.
![]() And yes, it fits quite well with his spoilers, dare I say, extremely well. I was hoping for a journey to Hela's domain as in the Simonson run, but not sure how all that will fit in the movie with the way I see things panning out currently. Still hoping for a Hela cameo or something though. And certainly that trip to Hel is still a possibility, but it certainly seems (to me at least) like the set work is pointing towards Karnilla and Nornheim, and there is only so much they can squeeze into a 2 hour movie. Hm. |
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I do think we will see a lot of Thor's rogue gallery, but most cameos. Especially since it was said a few days ago that the movie will be filled with Thor mythos. Karnilla appearing may be a possibility, but anyone outside of Malekith, and Kurse, POSSIBLY hela, would most likely be brief scenes, or cameos.
Which I think would be great. Cause even if he doesn't have anything to do with them, it lets us know that they DO exist in the MCU
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see, that's still too long.
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I know Krige mentioned it being a small part and she might be unrecognizable, but I don't think that necessarily means CGI or a lot of makeup to look like a crone or whatever. If they stick a big wild black wig on her, and make her up to look like a wicked sorceress/Queen, with amazing costume, and crazy headdress, well... that may very well be what she means by that comment. ![]() Now of course, Karnilla could be in it, and it's not Krige, but I'm just using her because she's the one who we don't know the character for, and whenever they don't say who someone is playing, it immediately points to being someone significant that the fans will get really excited about (and I dont consider Alfyse or even some Ragnarok prophesizing old crone significant enough to hold that information back ). Also, consider that if they go with an older Karnilla (just as they appear to have gone with an older Tyr as well) then they can just allude to her being in love with some perfect guy in the past and it never worked out, and she's bitter over that, and so bypass any mention of Balder who doesn't appear to be getting used in the MCU at all. (which I think is a good thing as I think he would bloat even more an already huge cast, and wouldn't be done justice as a character in that case) Last edited by elizah72; 02-01-2013 at 01:52 PM. |
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And here is more evidence that the Vanir are very likely among the marauding rag tag band of warriors fighting the Asgardians and THor 2 (as horned helmet and on horseback warriors). This image is from Journey into Mystery Everything Burns book, Mighty Thor #18 prelude.
The man speaking is an Old Freyr, leader of the Vanir, in a flashback to the first Vanir - Aesir war. Their eyes are glowing because Freyr has made a shady deal with Surtur to give them the power to stand up to the Asgardians and a particularly nasty Odin. Freyr: "Lord Surtur, did you mean what you said? Can you really inspire my brethren to stand up to the Aesir? To take what is ours before the Odinkind take it from us?" Surtur: "Oh, my yes... for a price." ![]() |
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We have lots of creatures there at Bourne that I've been thinking were trolls maybe, but they all look a bit different (color, and skin texture different, possibly not all the same race) and there seems to be only one guy with horns who I would call a demon for want of a better word (which I've pointed out before). It can't be Surtur, and I doubt he's Mephisto (he's a far snappier dresser ![]() Last edited by elizah72; 02-08-2013 at 12:13 PM. |
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what do you think the chances are they WILL have Surtur summoned to Earth and fighing in London at least at the end of this film? I mean, the clapper board scene numbers we found would indicate there is certainly time for another BIG final fight *after* Thor fights Malekith by the columns there, and Malekith certainly seems to be summoning something. It could be Kurse, but it sounds like Kurse gets several big battles with different characters, and I'm assuming that goes on over the course of the rest of the movie, so it seems like Thor fighting him AGAIN on Earth would be a bit repetitive, and sort of anticlimactic, in a way. I could be wrong, but what if it IS Surtur that Malekith summons to London and that's the final battle, possibly even making it up to Asgard. I think there may be time for it based on the scene numbers we found.
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yeah obviously he's not surtur, Surtur has to be huge. If something is needed from Asgard, it would be the eternal flame. Quote:
You know what I am trying to get at? Though I suppose they could have surtur attack, and fend him off, then he builds twilight in the after credit scene, for a ragnarok thor 3. Though if Surtur is the final act, credit goes to cherokeesam, he called it first lol
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![]() As you know, I have long felt Surtur will be in Thor3, not least because Surtur's attack in Simonson leaves Asgard without Odin, and without a Balder to step in, such a development would complicate Thor's participation in Avengers 2. There's also the matter of the attack on Earth in the Simonson arc. It's not clear that the material they've shot supports a fire demon attack on London, say, though I could be wrong on that. So while it feels like there's enough time for one more fight, it doesn't seem like it's the right amount of time for *that* fight, at least as staged in Simonson. (Of course, they are quite at liberty to diverge from Simonson.) As for whether Surtur would orchestrate the various realms conspiring to move against Asgard, I'm not sure. When he finally attacks Asgard, Surtur kind of comes off as kind of a dullard, actually (and Loki mocks him for it). So maybe he's just one of the forces in the universe taking advantage of the power vacuum left by the destruction of the Bifrost.
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![]() So, yes I understand what you are saying, but, just consider for a moment, if the big Surtur confrontation happens at the end of Thor 2. That would mean that they would be doing another storyline with another villain in Thor 3, assuming there is a Thor 3. SO, what do you think that would be, what would be a good follow up to fighting off Malekith, Kurse, and Surtur in Thor 2? Quote:
So something big, probably not Kurse, maybe, but I'm just saying probably not, what choices are there? Surtur, World Serpent/Nidhogg, Ymir, what else? Last edited by elizah72; 02-08-2013 at 02:14 PM. |
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Also, as Jon said that having Surtur in just the final act would be a waste of Surtur, I kind of feel that way about Jormungand.
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