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Old 05-11-2017, 12:59 PM   #26
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Asking this is like asking why every comic character doesn't appear in every comic that exists. Separate the stories!
This!

It's like reading Marvel Comics. You don't sit there being like "Man. It just doesn't make sense that the avengers don't help Spidey stop Doc Ock this time."

You read them being excited over the crossovers you get, that make sense in the given story. If everyone was constantly crossing over, it would make it less special.

That being said, I feel like the resolution of Infitiny Wars would be a good time to do it. It wouldn't take much to show quick clips of SHIELD or The Defenders while showing earth.

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Old 05-11-2017, 01:07 PM   #27
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I wouldn't quite go that far.
He does tho. After Phil finds out what had happened, and he and Fury have their talk Fury calls Phil and Avenger. Phil says the Tahiti project was for Fallen AVENGERS and Fury says, right. basically.

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Old 05-11-2017, 01:11 PM   #28
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Because Kevin Feige & Ike Pearlmutter are beefin'.

Simple as that. Getting upset that it's not going to happen isn't going to make it happen.
you never know! Phil was brought back to life to MAKE the tv show

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Old 05-11-2017, 08:19 PM   #29
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Because Kevin Feige & Ike Pearlmutter are beefin'.

Simple as that. Getting upset that it's not going to happen isn't going to make it happen.
They're not "beefin'" Pelrmutter would not ruin a chance at cross promotion with their most popular show and movies. Their "beef" was primarily over budgeting, which now that Fiege is reporting to Disney essentially means if a movie bombs while spending way too much money, the responsibility is on Fiege's head and Perlmutter would not be held responsible. (i.e. hiring Robert Downey Jr. outside of his contract for Civil War, a lot of extra money for a penny pincher like Perlmutter)

The among the many other possible reasons the tv show character would not appear in IW, the most likely is simply: the Russo brothers don't want them. They have enough characters, enough story, they don't need to add more if they don't want to. If the Russo Brothers wanted Netflix/AoS/etc. characters to appear Fiege would make it work, specially with his pull with Disney. Hell, I doubt he would even need to deal with Perlmutter. He could just hire the actors independently.

It's a creative decision first and foremost. Beyond that there's scheduling, actor's pay, contracts, exclusivity (Netflix wants the only place to see Daredevil is on their platform), and a host of other I don't even know about before whether or not Perlmutter has his panties in a bunch even becomes a question. It's easy for us to nitpick from the sidelines but Fiege has a very busy job without having to worry about the TV side of things. So while it's important to us and our fandom it is insignificant compared to all the things he has to do to get movies out on time with such consistent quality.

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Old 05-11-2017, 08:25 PM   #30
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STILL want to see Phil "reveal" himself to the Avengers. ONE character at five minutes max in IW won't hurt Beside he IS the only one who HAS been in both Film and tv

Besides, IF Marvel ever does the Kree Skrull war (maybe with Captain Marvel) They'd almost HAVE to use Phil, he has Kree blood IN HIM

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Old 05-13-2017, 10:38 AM   #31
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The Avengers paint themselves in a bad light. Civil War was a movie that dealt with the teams **** ups in Age of Ultron.

But yea I get the point of the thread, and I would agree to some extent, I don't see it as a bad thing though.

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Old 06-17-2017, 07:49 PM   #32
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STILL want to see Phil "reveal" himself to the Avengers. ONE character at five minutes max in IW won't hurt Beside he IS the only one who HAS been in both Film and tv.
I myself would like to see the Avengers learn Coulson is alive, it's long overdue in my opinion. Plus I remember hearing there were plan to originally have Coulson show up in iron Man 3 or Thor the Dark World, but that sadly didn't happen.

Plus if the MCU is all connected, it's time to connect the shows to the films more by having characters from the shows in the films.

My nephew joked, that in IW after the Avengers defeat Thanos, they might go to dinner and see Coulson there having a romantic dinner with May and that would be how the Avengers learn Coulson is alive.

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Old 06-17-2017, 09:47 PM   #33
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I can see that. I agree, it's been a long time coming that Avengers learn Phil's alive.
I can't see how it would effect Shield's job of keeping things from the general public that they don't need to know about.

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Old 06-18-2017, 04:50 PM   #34
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I can see that. I agree, it's been a long time coming that Avengers learn Phil's alive.
I can't see how it would effect Shield's job of keeping things from the general public that they don't need to know about.
Well great minds think alike.

I don't see how it would affect SHIELD's job either.

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Old 07-10-2017, 04:50 PM   #35
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Overall, do you guys think that this show inadvertently makes the Avengers look bad/incompetent in the grand scheme of the MCU?

I mean after the events of "Winter Soldier", we saw the fallout of Cap's actions when it came to taking down SHIELD and how it affected the lives of every innocent SHIELD agent.
If you scrutinize events in plenty of MCU movies (perhaps you could say a lot of CBM/blockbuster fair), you might draw possibilities that portray heroes in a bad light.

That was a problem I had with the SHIELD movie, frankly. It posited that Black Widow was taking a huge personal risk by releasing the SHIELD files... And then she plays the 'I'm an Avenger' card and gets off scot free, and the movie doesn't acknowledge the implication that every other loyalist SHIELD agent is screwed.

Generally, there's a current of 'these are the characters whose lives matter' to most MCU movie.

The other stuff, not so much. In a Doylist sense, the Avengers don't interfere because ABC can't hire the actors playing them.

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Old 09-20-2017, 09:01 AM   #36
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I mean one wouldhave to think The inhumans movie was sabotaged by Aos using them ... there probably is some bad blood there

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I dont even think about the Avengers when watching this

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Old 10-30-2017, 09:16 AM   #38
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I dont even think about the Avengers when watching this
Well I do.

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Old 10-30-2017, 09:19 AM   #39
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Default Re: Does this show inadvertently portray the Avengers in a bad light?

I voted no as this show has no effect whatsoever in the Avenger films.

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I voted no as this show has no effect whatsoever in the Avenger films.
Well it should as all the shows and films in the MCU are connected, it needs to be shown more that the shows have an effect on the films. not just the films affecting the shows.

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